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May 17, 2013 4:30 PM
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Generally the western diet includes far too much protein. Protein is great and your body needs it but in balance with carbs and fats.People get obsessed with high protein. Has anyone ever known anyone with a protein deficiency? The answer will be no because in the western world it doesn't happen.

I know the you need to eat silly amounts of protein brigade will disagree with this. Just remember carbs are the bodies main source of energy.Carbs give you the energy to work those muscles so they can get bigger. If you haven't eaten enough carbs you will lose energy and your body will use your protein for energy rather than muscle building.

I await this POV to be leaped upon with gusto.

Vegan alert

Typical defense when asked how to get more protein; "you don't need much!"
May 17, 2013 4:31 PM
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I fall short of my protein goals every day and it's very frustrating. Usually it's because I've exhausted my fat calories and I don't eat fat-free dairy. I know I can eat more egg whites but I'd love some ideas on very low fat sources of protein.


What's your fat goal?
  4822651
May 17, 2013 4:33 PM
http://agro-food-industry.teknoscienze.com/pdf/norton_AF2_09.PDF

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/is-there-a-limit-to-how-much-protein-the-body-can-use-in-a-single-meal/

http://www.humanengine.com/index.php/articles/item/protein-how-much-and-how-often-layne-norton-bs-biochemistry-phd-nutritional-sciences
  41299147
May 17, 2013 4:38 PM
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Watched Dr. Oz today and he recommended 75 grams of protein over the course of 3 meals, looked at my reports, and the highest I have ever had, is 66. Of course he recommends lean protein, but just checking to see if others do this? If so, any meal suggestions. Thanks


I don't give a crap what Dr. Oz says in general...but I think this time he got it close to right. I eat over 140 grams every day
  25040222
May 17, 2013 4:38 PM
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I do 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of body weight

Yikes! I'd be at 330 grams per day!
  31574145
May 17, 2013 4:43 PM
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Generally the western diet includes far too much protein. Protein is great and your body needs it but in balance with carbs and fats.People get obsessed with high protein. Has anyone ever known anyone with a protein deficiency? The answer will be no because in the western world it doesn't happen.

I know the you need to eat silly amounts of protein brigade will disagree with this. Just remember carbs are the bodies main source of energy.Carbs give you the energy to work those muscles so they can get bigger. If you haven't eaten enough carbs you will lose energy and your body will use your protein for energy rather than muscle building.

I await this POV to be leaped upon with gusto.


I'll stand over here with you for a little bit. While the MFP guidelines are too low, the protein recommendations I see around here do seem on the high side. There are 150 pound women on here that are being told to eat more protein than I ate when I was a 26 year old, 240 pound mountain of muscle. I used to giggle about the "Magical Proteins" of MFP when I joined the site last year. Sore? Pile on the protein! Want to run 5 miles a day on a bulk? No problem at all, just have more protein all your muscle will be spared! And yeah, the main difference between bulking and cutting for me is the carbs. My protein and fat stay relatively high during either cycle.

While I don't believe there's an inherent danger to high protein diets, I'm starting to suspect some of the super high recommendations have been secretly coming from the supplement industry. You know, sort of how people will say breakfast is a conspiracy started by cereal manufacturers.

As with most things, the answer probably lies somewhere in middle.
May 17, 2013 4:43 PM
That formula isn't right. It's 1 g for each pound of lean body weight, not total body weight.
  42637227
May 17, 2013 4:45 PM
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QUOTE:

I fall short of my protein goals every day and it's very frustrating. Usually it's because I've exhausted my fat calories and I don't eat fat-free dairy. I know I can eat more egg whites but I'd love some ideas on very low fat sources of protein.


What's your fat goal?


30% but I try and get the bulk of my fat from things like avocados, olive oil, coconut oil, nuts, nut butter, etc...
  42637227
May 17, 2013 4:45 PM
I shoot for at least 200 grams of protein per day.
  37374837
May 17, 2013 4:47 PM
Personally, I am beginning to just understand my body and find when I consume between 80-110 grams of protien per day, my other macro counts are tracking well also and have had a pretty balanced day. I like balance.
  38485065
May 17, 2013 4:51 PM
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QUOTE:

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I fall short of my protein goals every day and it's very frustrating. Usually it's because I've exhausted my fat calories and I don't eat fat-free dairy. I know I can eat more egg whites but I'd love some ideas on very low fat sources of protein.


What's your fat goal?


30% but I try and get the bulk of my fat from things like avocados, olive oil, coconut oil, nuts, nut butter, etc...


I'm not sure what mine is in terms of percentage but it's 48 grams per day, which is close to the minimum recommended by this post:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

It recommends .35 grams per pound of body weight (or per pound of LBM if you are obese I think).

Anyway I'm regularly right at my limit. I do 2% on most dairy, but that's because of the calories not the fat.
  4822651
May 17, 2013 5:09 PM
My baseline target is 102 grams. Of course that number rises if you add in my exercise calories. Some days I do better than others. I keep tweaking things to see what works. I'll get there!
  42637227
May 17, 2013 5:18 PM
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I try to get at least 100 but my macros is set to 124.



I am almost exactly the same.
  18866703
May 17, 2013 5:35 PM
Regarding too much protein possibly causing osteoporosis... here's a link that explains it in layman's terms from Live Strong...
http://www.livestrong.com/article/332230-protein-as-a-cause-of-osteoporosis/

Here's an article about how too much protein can also increase your risk of cancer & kidney disease...
http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vsk/vegetarian-starter-kit-protein
Edited by SharonFP4H On May 17, 2013 5:41 PM
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May 17, 2013 6:51 PM
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I do 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of body weight

Yikes! I'd be at 330 grams per day!


use your BMI to gauge your protein requirements if you're fairly overweight.
May 17, 2013 6:53 PM
When I consistently eat over 115g of protein and stick within my calorie goal, the scale always moves in my favor.
Edited by 2stepscloser On May 17, 2013 7:38 PM
May 17, 2013 6:55 PM
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Nothing Dr. Oz says is credible.

**bubbleburst**


^^ This.

I swear to you I saw a show years ago and I think it was him, he was trying to say that people who eat absently for something to do could get the same satisfaction by pretending to eat. Yeah, anyone who has ever eaten food can tell you pretending to eat is not the same as eating.
  16647985
May 17, 2013 6:58 PM
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Regarding too much protein possibly causing osteoporosis... here's a link that explains it in layman's terms from Live Strong...
http://www.livestrong.com/article/332230-protein-as-a-cause-of-osteoporosis/

Here's an article about how too much protein can also increase your risk of cancer & kidney disease...
http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vsk/vegetarian-starter-kit-protein
No and no.
May 17, 2013 7:37 PM
I shoot for over 100g of protein a day. Not too hard to get it all in. And when I do usually I won't go over my calories since protein makes me feel full and satisfied.
  40886588
May 17, 2013 7:37 PM
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When I continently eat over 115g of protein and stick within my calorie goal, the scale always moves in my favor.


Agree!
  40886588
May 17, 2013 8:05 PM
Ugh Dr. Oz...I especially like how he skipped over tofu and vegetarian proteins especially since his wife is a vegetarian....nice.
  3622766
May 17, 2013 8:06 PM
It was my take from that segment he was NOT talking about people trying to build muscle or lose weight, just general sedentary americans...
  3622766
May 17, 2013 8:14 PM
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I do 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of body weight


Yep. This is what I have been told.
  3473550
May 17, 2013 8:46 PM
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I do 1 gram of protein per 1 lb of body weight


Yep. This is what I have been told.


I thought it was 1g per 1lbs of lean body mass? No one is 100% lean body mass.
  3622766
May 17, 2013 8:48 PM
75 grams? Pfft. That's my breakfast.

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1103993

There's a long read version for ya.
Edited by JJordon On May 17, 2013 8:54 PM
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