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April 11, 2013 10:35 AM
My partner is following a very, very low carb diet (and I'm talking like 10g and under per DAY). I don't think this is very healthy. She's getting a lot of fat and protein in her diet. How low is too low? I'm very worried.
  40808427
April 11, 2013 10:39 AM
I'm also doing a low carb diet. The induction phase on atkins diet is less than 20g carbs a day, i try to stay around 10g or less. Its safe but a hard diet! Looking forward to my next cheat day, am starving! The induction phase is meant to be only 2 weeks but most people usually stay on it til they loose the weight they want to and then go to maintanance phase where you gradually increase the carbs dailysmile
April 11, 2013 10:42 AM
QUOTE:

I'm also doing a low carb diet. The induction phase on atkins diet is less than 20g carbs a day, i try to stay around 10g or less. Its safe but a hard diet! Looking forward to my next cheat day, am starving! The induction phase is meant to be only 2 weeks but most people usually stay on it til they loose the weight they want to and then go to maintanance phase where you gradually increase the carbs dailysmile



"hard" and "diet" are why this won't be long term. You should strive to be living a healthy lifestyle - something you can do forever basically.
  5279186
April 11, 2013 10:43 AM
Sounds like a keto/atkins style. Exactly what I am doing right now actually.. and I love it.

There are some great benefits to it =) I don't think its really a diet though.. It's more of a lifestyle change. I know people who have been doing it for years and see fantastic results.

Can be a little tough at times, but generally speaking, I find I have the most success when I restrict the amount of carbs/starches I am eating
Edited by brillmer On April 11, 2013 10:44 AM
April 11, 2013 10:43 AM
I don't know how low is too low. I couldn't do it though. I just looked at my breakfast and had 59g of carbs without even having any bread. Carbs are good for you as long as you eat the right kind
  10714404
April 11, 2013 10:44 AM
That wouldn't work for me at all.
  28550113
April 11, 2013 10:45 AM
I find that when I stick to meat (mostly fish) and vegetables (cooked at dinner time, raw throughout the day), I get lower carb days. I actually feel better when I don't have the carbs too high. That said, I don't go as low as 10g. I think that, as long as you are healthy, then high protein, low carb is okay, but I am not a doctor. Maybe you could go on the Dr. Oz website and ask this question.
April 11, 2013 10:46 AM
I'm on a DR ordered low carb diet and I stil get around 90-150 grams of carbs a day. They come from Fruit, Vegetabels and some very whole gluiten free grains. (I'm also guiten free). 10g of carbs a day does sound really extreem.
  35094818
April 11, 2013 10:47 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I'm also doing a low carb diet. The induction phase on atkins diet is less than 20g carbs a day, i try to stay around 10g or less. Its safe but a hard diet! Looking forward to my next cheat day, am starving! The induction phase is meant to be only 2 weeks but most people usually stay on it til they loose the weight they want to and then go to maintanance phase where you gradually increase the carbs dailysmile



"hard" and "diet" are why this won't be long term. You should strive to be living a healthy lifestyle - something you can do forever basically.


Some people do better with the boost that a short-term diet gives them. They see some progress and then they maintain it.
  41556920
April 11, 2013 10:49 AM
My stepmom had my sister and I do Atkins when she went on it. Honestly I did so much better on Atkins - energy, less fatigue, and (the best part!) weight loss.

I'd say it depends on what works. Some people can't handle carbs well, some need more than others. As long as she's feeling well, and gets enough nutrients from elsewhere (greens, vitamins), then she should be okay.
  947868
April 11, 2013 10:53 AM
omg i cant do that i love carbs!!!
  14159503
April 11, 2013 10:57 AM
Im hypoglycemic-i get really sick if i maintain less than 80g/dat for too long.
April 11, 2013 11:07 AM
Well, this is a somewhat complicated topic. I personally follow a "lower carb" diet and never go below 60 grams of carbohydrates. I still get the advantage of appetite control that one gets with a very low carbohydrate diet but not so low that it crushes the appetite (which is what I found that a very low carbohydrate did to me--and I got pretty sick from the resulting undereating). I generally eat lower amounts of carbohydrate on my rest days and then up the amount on my cardio days (to about 120 grams) and a little on my resistance training days (I generally come in around 80-90 grams). The reason why I don't ever go below 60 grams is because that is the threshold of ketosis and I don't think that is a good choice because of the muscle wastage that I personally have experienced on a very low carbohydrate diet. I lost a lot of fat but I lost a lot of muscle mass as well, and ended up regaining all that I had lost plus more. I do not eat sugar and wheat and eat very little of other types of grain preferring to get my carbohydrates from starchy vegetables instead (on my cardio days). When I do eat grain it is usually either 100% whole organic sourdough rye bread, or a bowl of steel cut oats. I quite enjoy my current plan and it is very sustainable. Most people who look at my food diary think it is great and healthy. I should be able to up my portions slightly and maintain when the time comes. I know from experience that it is VERY difficult for me to keep up an exercise program on a very low carbohydrate diet. I used to fight exhaustion constantly. Part of that, I think is because I lost a lot of mineral wealth from not eating enough fruits and vegetables. I have corrected that with this diet. I still don't eat a lot of fruit but I do eat a LOT of vegetables. I always eat at least one serving of fruit per day.
Edited by SanteMulberry On April 11, 2013 11:09 AM
  29734726
April 11, 2013 11:43 AM
if it makes them feel good, it's not too low. Every individual is different. Personally I try not to go below 25g carb/daily cuz it messes with my thryoid over time. If you're really very concerned, encourage them to do a carb refeed day where they eat up to 100g carb (but not junk carbs-- good carbs like fruits & veggies, and maybe 1 special treat)
April 11, 2013 2:23 PM
I followed Atkins guidelines (but not the diet) for about 1 year and successfully lost 50 lbs. Although low carb means high fat, I only ate baked turkey and fish and many times cured raw salmon with kosher salt and splenda, (sashimi). The rest of the carbs came from raw veggies and fruits. My carb intake was around 40 grams.

Once I lost weight, I slowly began introducing carbs (fruit) back into the diet. Currently I am on raw veggie and fruit diet with only 10% of animal protein
  7708829
April 11, 2013 6:06 PM
If your partner is following that low of a diet by choice, just help them make sure to get TONS of fluids to keep the kidneys functioning. That is the main concern I've heard from the health classes I've been through. When carbs fall really low, and ketosis sets in, the kidneys sometimes have trouble. I've never seen or heard of a bottom number to NOT go below, just the warning about fluids, ketosis and the kidneys.
  17378160
April 12, 2013 12:48 AM
Carbs are actually a non essential nutrient. You learn that in Nutrition 101. If it were possible, you could eat zero carb indefinitely with zero health effects. Your friend is probably fine. Veggies and fruits do have a lot of useful micronutrients, so in the long run, low carb is better than zero carb.
April 12, 2013 12:51 AM
Sounds like he is trying to put his body into Ketosis. Like others said Carbs are non essential. As long as he is Hitting his protein and fat macros then he is fine.
April 12, 2013 12:54 AM
Starting out super low on your carbs is a good idea. Most low-carb diets start SUPER low, to shock your system into not wanting/needing carbs as much. I'm following a sort-of South Beach diet, where the focus isn't only on low carbs but also on good choices and healthy eating. I think if you're following a low-carb diet, that's the best kind to do. I would suggest having her add in 5 to 10 carbs a week, and when she stops losing weight decrease back to a level where she is losing again.
  29379935
April 12, 2013 8:43 AM
I think my biggest concern wouldn't be the low carb aspect of it, but making sure she is getting enough potassium. Generally, there isn't a whole lot of potassium in meat. Also she should be sure to deduct fiber from her carb count. Vegetables are a good way to get potassium and they have some carbs. I think getting 10 grams or less a day would be difficult but maybe not impossible, if you are eating plenty of veggies. Low potassium can be very serious.
  32072508
April 12, 2013 9:51 AM
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Sounds like he is trying to put his body into Ketosis. Like others said Carbs are non essential. As long as he is Hitting his protein and fat macros then he is fine.


Yes, going very low carb and low fat at the same time will hurt you. I think that is what gets some very low carb dieters in trouble. They cut both carbs and fat. You cannot go low fat and very low carb at the same time it seems.
  29734726
March 22, 2014 9:53 PM
The Low carb diet is a way of life, is it hard?, maybe, what it is ,is different, we have been eating, refined, sugary crap food all our lives, and have caused our bodies to be in the poor unhealthy/fat, state it is in. Someone says it is too hard so it won't be a long term way of life. Does that mean, if I decide to take up some form of exercise/sport, and it is hard, that i should just cave in, becauase it "won't be a long term " way of life. Surely we have more guts and brains than to fall for that old rubbish. Any radical change of life is difficult/different/strange, especially as we have so many people close to us telling us ,it is unhealthy, you need to eat fruit, you need carbs, etc. The truth of the matter is to sustain life, we need Water, protein, and fat, all the rest can be made by the body. As for vitamins and minerals, there is more of most of them in meat than any plant source, remember we do eat leafy fibrous greens. Her is a good site to let you know nearly everything you ever wanted or (not wanted) to know about the low carb/ ketogenic diet. Good luck, and don't listen to the nay sayers. cheers
March 22, 2014 10:00 PM
I do low carb for medical reasons and I try to get 25 or less a day but total carbs, not net carbs.
I just make sure that 99% of the carbs I DO eat come from veggies.
  59473528
March 22, 2014 10:41 PM
135 minimum per day is what I was taught in my nutrition class. I'm in nursing school, and apparently there have been a lot of people getting extremely ill from these low carb diets. Your brain, and all of your body's cells need carbs as their main energy source. Relying on fat for energy is dangerous enough to kill you. Focus on calorie count and eating enough of each macronutrient.
  54565918
March 22, 2014 11:29 PM
Here is that site I promised above. http://josepharcita.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/guide-to-ketosis.html#11FF

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