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March 16, 2013 7:41 PM
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That's fine. I don't particularly understand punishing your body by putting it through several days of weakness, shakiness, headaches, and whatever else extreme hunger pangs produce just to feel "cleansed" from foods I already pooped out days or weeks ago.

I don't think I'll ever understand that.


I don't have any of those problems on a cleansing diet. The main thing is to get all your calories and lots of fruits and vegetables, some meat, [I like tuna, salmon, elk, organic chicken (a bit more expensive but worth it)] and seed grains like amaranth, quinoa, or buckwheat. Some of the stuff is expensive but I try to eat cheap stuff like carrots, cabbage, and celery to make up for it.


Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.


You mentioned "toxins produced by the digestion of proteins". So if we cut back on proteins, are we cutting back on "toxins produced by the digestions of proteins"?
March 16, 2013 7:45 PM
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That's fine. I don't particularly understand punishing your body by putting it through several days of weakness, shakiness, headaches, and whatever else extreme hunger pangs produce just to feel "cleansed" from foods I already pooped out days or weeks ago.

I don't think I'll ever understand that.


I don't have any of those problems on a cleansing diet. The main thing is to get all your calories and lots of fruits and vegetables, some meat, [I like tuna, salmon, elk, organic chicken (a bit more expensive but worth it)] and seed grains like amaranth, quinoa, or buckwheat. Some of the stuff is expensive but I try to eat cheap stuff like carrots, cabbage, and celery to make up for it.


Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.


You mentioned "toxins produced by the digestion of proteins". So if we cut back on proteins, are we cutting back on "toxins produced by the digestions of proteins"?


Yes! This!
March 16, 2013 7:49 PM
those who are looking at doing a cleanse should watch this. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17ZNZ5rRQA
  3970743
March 16, 2013 7:50 PM
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Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

Most if not all food have some elements that are toxic. Spinach is known to have traces of lead, but I still eat it. I'm choosing foods that are less likely to have a lot of toxins.

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How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.

Eating certain foods doesn't help release anything from fat cells. You usually lose weight on a cleanse if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, which help the liver function and lessen the incoming toxins from your diet. The liver can then focus on purifying the blood and the toxins that are released from the fat cells when you are losing weight.
March 16, 2013 7:52 PM
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What exactly are you trying to cleanse?


I hope to find the answer to this on the three pages I haven't read yet. Would love to know what toxin is eliminated from the body as a result of a "cleanse" that is not otherwise eliminated.


I'm just curious about how toxic fat is.


I wrote the answer above. I will try to find it for you. Do you want me to email it to you or post it here?


Here is fine but I would like to Know what is defined as toxic. Like I said I think we have different ideas of what that means.


Just saw this. I found a Youtube video which might help you understand. It is by Peter Glimmick who wrote the second Master Cleanse Book. I am not promoting the Master Cleanse. There are many types of cleanses. And this man is also selling a book , but you can do the cleanse without the book, it can be read free online and without buying anything . However, I do understand way he describes toxins and stored toxins to be true.

Here is the Youtube video. I am off here to get stuff done. See you around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZ6NbQfhDk



Thank you.
It's funny, he says twice that the liver eliminates these toxins on it own. He does say that if it get overwhelmed and can't process it all, it's stored in fat cells until it can get a chance to, then it will. If most people followed the advice of eating more veggies and whole food and drinking water, it would do the same thing.
I didn't see that fat was toxic although he does say toxins are stored there.

I do disagree with him on the cause of people gaining weight when they come off of a strict calorie diet. I've been there, on a whole food diet.
March 16, 2013 7:53 PM
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That's fine. I don't particularly understand punishing your body by putting it through several days of weakness, shakiness, headaches, and whatever else extreme hunger pangs produce just to feel "cleansed" from foods I already pooped out days or weeks ago.

I don't think I'll ever understand that.


I don't have any of those problems on a cleansing diet. The main thing is to get all your calories and lots of fruits and vegetables, some meat, [I like tuna, salmon, elk, organic chicken (a bit more expensive but worth it)] and seed grains like amaranth, quinoa, or buckwheat. Some of the stuff is expensive but I try to eat cheap stuff like carrots, cabbage, and celery to make up for it.


Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.


You mentioned "toxins produced by the digestion of proteins". So if we cut back on proteins, are we cutting back on "toxins produced by the digestions of proteins"?

nice catch. Indeed the best cleanse is one without a lot of protein. I am a weightlifter so I tend to eat more than I should on cleanses but I do eventually feel better even with eating fish, chicken and elk.
March 16, 2013 7:56 PM
Uric acid? Is that the toxin from protein we are talking about?
March 16, 2013 7:56 PM
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What exactly are you trying to cleanse?


I hope to find the answer to this on the three pages I haven't read yet. Would love to know what toxin is eliminated from the body as a result of a "cleanse" that is not otherwise eliminated.


I'm just curious about how toxic fat is.


I wrote the answer above. I will try to find it for you. Do you want me to email it to you or post it here?


Here is fine but I would like to Know what is defined as toxic. Like I said I think we have different ideas of what that means.


Just saw this. I found a Youtube video which might help you understand. It is by Peter Glimmick who wrote the second Master Cleanse Book. I am not promoting the Master Cleanse. There are many types of cleanses. And this man is also selling a book , but you can do the cleanse without the book, it can be read free online and without buying anything . However, I do understand way he describes toxins and stored toxins to be true.

Here is the Youtube video. I am off here to get stuff done. See you around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZ6NbQfhDk



Thank you.
It's funny, he says twice that the liver eliminates these toxins on it own. He does say that if it get overwhelmed and can't process it all, it's stored in fat cells until it can get a chance to, then it will. If most people followed the advice of eating more veggies and whole food and drinking water, it would do the same thing.
I didn't see that fat was toxic although he does say toxins are stored there.

I do disagree with him on the cause of people gaining weight when they come off of a strict calorie diet. I've been there, on a whole food diet.


did you know that "eating more veggies and whole foods and water" is a cleanse. So what are you objecting to?
March 16, 2013 7:58 PM
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What exactly are you trying to cleanse?


I hope to find the answer to this on the three pages I haven't read yet. Would love to know what toxin is eliminated from the body as a result of a "cleanse" that is not otherwise eliminated.


I'm just curious about how toxic fat is.


I wrote the answer above. I will try to find it for you. Do you want me to email it to you or post it here?


Here is fine but I would like to Know what is defined as toxic. Like I said I think we have different ideas of what that means.


Just saw this. I found a Youtube video which might help you understand. It is by Peter Glimmick who wrote the second Master Cleanse Book. I am not promoting the Master Cleanse. There are many types of cleanses. And this man is also selling a book , but you can do the cleanse without the book, it can be read free online and without buying anything . However, I do understand way he describes toxins and stored toxins to be true.

Here is the Youtube video. I am off here to get stuff done. See you around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZ6NbQfhDk



Thank you.
It's funny, he says twice that the liver eliminates these toxins on it own. He does say that if it get overwhelmed and can't process it all, it's stored in fat cells until it can get a chance to, then it will. If most people followed the advice of eating more veggies and whole food and drinking water, it would do the same thing.
I didn't see that fat was toxic although he does say toxins are stored there.

I do disagree with him on the cause of people gaining weight when they come off of a strict calorie diet. I've been there, on a whole food diet.


did you know that "eating more veggies and whole foods and water" is a cleanse. So what are you objecting to?


I'm not but people seemed to earlier on when I and others suggested it.

I do object to maple syrup cayenne pepper and whatever cleanses. Or water fasts. Or anything that involves strictly limiting calories and most foods for a period of time.

ETA - or eatin nothing but apples for a couple of days.
Edited by 3dogsrunning On March 16, 2013 8:00 PM
March 16, 2013 8:04 PM
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What exactly are you trying to cleanse?


I hope to find the answer to this on the three pages I haven't read yet. Would love to know what toxin is eliminated from the body as a result of a "cleanse" that is not otherwise eliminated.


I'm just curious about how toxic fat is.


I wrote the answer above. I will try to find it for you. Do you want me to email it to you or post it here?


Here is fine but I would like to Know what is defined as toxic. Like I said I think we have different ideas of what that means.


Just saw this. I found a Youtube video which might help you understand. It is by Peter Glimmick who wrote the second Master Cleanse Book. I am not promoting the Master Cleanse. There are many types of cleanses. And this man is also selling a book , but you can do the cleanse without the book, it can be read free online and without buying anything . However, I do understand way he describes toxins and stored toxins to be true.

Here is the Youtube video. I am off here to get stuff done. See you around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZ6NbQfhDk



Thank you.
It's funny, he says twice that the liver eliminates these toxins on it own. He does say that if it get overwhelmed and can't process it all, it's stored in fat cells until it can get a chance to, then it will. If most people followed the advice of eating more veggies and whole food and drinking water, it would do the same thing.
I didn't see that fat was toxic although he does say toxins are stored there.

I do disagree with him on the cause of people gaining weight when they come off of a strict calorie diet. I've been there, on a whole food diet.


did you know that "eating more veggies and whole foods and water" is a cleanse. So what are you objecting to?


I'm not but people seemed to earlier on when I and others suggested it.

I do object to maple syrup cayenne pepper and whatever cleanses. Or water fasts. Or anything that involves strictly limiting calories and most foods for a period of time.

ETA - or eatin nothing but apples for a couple of days.


I can't object to sleep either. Later.
March 16, 2013 8:07 PM
Cleanses are great if your wallet is overstuffed. Beyond that, I highly recommend regular use of your liver and kidneys, they cleanse your body better than any food/drink/ 'magic' crap you could put in it.
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March 16, 2013 8:09 PM
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Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

Most if not all food have some elements that are toxic. Spinach is known to have traces of lead, but I still eat it. I'm choosing foods that are less likely to have a lot of toxins.

QUOTE:

How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.

Eating certain foods doesn't help release anything from fat cells. You usually lose weight on a cleanse if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, which help the liver function and lessen the incoming toxins from your diet. The liver can then focus on purifying the blood and the toxins that are released from the fat cells when you are losing weight.


I guess I don't understand because your cleanse seems to consist of most of the foods I eat on a daily basis (except elk, I've never eaten it). So I guess the question is what are you detoxing from. You are eating plenty of foods that are known to be pretty high in toxins. How does this give your liver a "break?" What would be "off limits" to you?
  35761138
March 16, 2013 8:31 PM
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Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

Most if not all food have some elements that are toxic. Spinach is known to have traces of lead, but I still eat it. I'm choosing foods that are less likely to have a lot of toxins.

QUOTE:

How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.

Eating certain foods doesn't help release anything from fat cells. You usually lose weight on a cleanse if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, which help the liver function and lessen the incoming toxins from your diet. The liver can then focus on purifying the blood and the toxins that are released from the fat cells when you are losing weight.


I guess I don't understand because your cleanse seems to consist of most of the foods I eat on a daily basis (except elk, I've never eaten it). So I guess the question is what are you detoxing from. You are eating plenty of foods that are known to be pretty high in toxins. How does this give your liver a "break?" What would be "off limits" to you?

I'm hoping my liver will detox everything it can, nothing in particular. What foods are high in toxins that I've named? I'm guessing the fish and meat? The liver doesn't get a break really but I'm hoping to lessen the load. The foods that are off-limits are in the manual page 8. http://www.cleanprogram.com/files/clean-program-manual.pdf
March 16, 2013 8:45 PM
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Wait. Are you telling me that you DETOX your body by eating foods that contain mercury, fagopyrin, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), dioxins, toxaphene, dieldrin, hexachlorobenzene (HCB), lindane, heptachlor epoxide, cis-nonachlor, trans-nonachlor, gamma-chlordane, alpha-chlordane, Mirex, endrin and DDT amongst others? What exactly are you cleansing from? How is this giving your liver a break at all? What do you think your liver cleans from your blood anyway?

Your body filters oxygen, water, nutrients, vitamins, toxins produced by digestion of proteins, etc... It passes them to your digestive tract via bile.

Most if not all food have some elements that are toxic. Spinach is known to have traces of lead, but I still eat it. I'm choosing foods that are less likely to have a lot of toxins.

QUOTE:

How does eating certain foods release anything stored in fat cells? It doesn't the only way to release anything contained in fat cells is by oxidation.

Even if I had bought into this idea before, you just assured me that it is a complete load of... bile.

Eating certain foods doesn't help release anything from fat cells. You usually lose weight on a cleanse if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, which help the liver function and lessen the incoming toxins from your diet. The liver can then focus on purifying the blood and the toxins that are released from the fat cells when you are losing weight.


I guess I don't understand because your cleanse seems to consist of most of the foods I eat on a daily basis (except elk, I've never eaten it). So I guess the question is what are you detoxing from. You are eating plenty of foods that are known to be pretty high in toxins. How does this give your liver a "break?" What would be "off limits" to you?

I'm hoping my liver will detox everything it can, nothing in particular. What foods are high in toxins that I've named? I'm guessing the fish and meat? The liver doesn't get a break really but I'm hoping to lessen the load. The foods that are off-limits are in the manual page 8. http://www.cleanprogram.com/files/clean-program-manual.pdf


So this is basically an elimination diet like the ones used by doctors to discover allergies or an intolerance. It doesn't really explain any kind of toxins other than that. I don't see how following an elimination diet if you don't have an allergy or intolerance would help anything. To each their own.

Oh yeah and the foods that have toxins, buckwheat, fish, some meats, some veggies (like you mentioned spinach but really a lot of them). I'm not saying that any of these are toxic but most food either contains or produces, as a byproduct of digestion, chemicals which are 'toxic' and must be filtered out by your liver.

I think the liver does a fine job and that it doesn't need a break but if you are doing a "cleanse" to give your liver a break, I cannot see really eating or drinking much of anything outside of water to do that. I can understand the idea of a "water fast" or fasting, I can even get with someone doing it for the purposes of a cleanse (again I don't think it is necessary but I can understand it) but I cannot see how simply eating some things but not others (when pretty much everything has or produces some kind of "toxin") does anything really at all.
Edited by CristinaL1983 On March 16, 2013 8:52 PM
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March 16, 2013 8:57 PM
OP: just eat a diet with a reasonable calorie target and include mainly nutrient dense foods. If you want to psychological benefit of 'kick starting' your diet, just eat whole foods - plenty of fruits and veggies, but also make sure you get enough fat and protein. You really do not have to mess around with detoxes or cleanses (which can be harmful, depending on which ones they are, and do not detox anything).
  18358448
March 16, 2013 9:01 PM
Go get a colonoscopy. I guarantee you will get the cleanse of your life!!! Other than that - don't do a cleanse. they are not good for you.
March 16, 2013 9:29 PM
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You really do not have to mess around with detoxes or cleanses (which can be harmful, depending on which ones they are, and do not detox anything).


Please provide proof of the cleanses which harm and why. And also of proof they do not detox from anything. We provided otherwise (how cleanses help) even posted a video. What you say is untrue. A cleanse done within a reasonable amount of time cannot harm you. If you do it for 100 days, yes it may, but for one to ten days. No way!
March 16, 2013 9:37 PM
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You really do not have to mess around with detoxes or cleanses (which can be harmful, depending on which ones they are, and do not detox anything).


Please provide proof of the cleanses which harm and why. And also of proof they do not detox from anything. We provided otherwise (how cleanses help) even posted a video. What you say is untrue. A cleanse done within a reasonable amount of time cannot harm you. If you do it for 100 days, yes it may, but for one to ten days. No way!


I am still waiting for your to provide proof that they do detox anything. Where exactly did I say that all cleanses are harmful? I said they may be harmful depending on which ones. Please re-read my statement.

ETA: this is going to be my last communication with you regarding my statement. I am not wasting my time on you. I stated my stance on this to the OP. It was not exactly inflammatory or 'out there'. Have a lovely day...good luck with your cleanse that you are starting tomorrow. I will be thinking of you while I eat my daily bowl of......
Edited by Sarauk2sf On March 16, 2013 9:40 PM
  18358448
March 16, 2013 9:39 PM
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You really do not have to mess around with detoxes or cleanses (which can be harmful, depending on which ones they are, and do not detox anything).


Please provide proof of the cleanses which harm and why. And also of proof they do not detox from anything. We provided otherwise (how cleanses help) even posted a video. What you say is untrue. A cleanse done within a reasonable amount of time cannot harm you. If you do it for 100 days, yes it may, but for one to ten days. No way!


Here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/927327-cleanse-why-you-are-lucky-they-don-t-work

If it worked, it would likely be bad for you.
Edited by EvgeniZyntx On March 16, 2013 9:40 PM
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March 16, 2013 9:45 PM
I am still waiting for your to provide proof that they do detox anything. Where exactly did I say that all cleanses are harmful? I said they may be harmful depending on which ones. Please re-read my statement.

ETA: this is going to be my last communication with you regarding my statement. I am not wasting my time on you. I stated my stance on this to the OP. It was not exactly inflammatory or 'out there'. Have a lovely day...good luck with your cleanse that you are starting tomorrow. I will be thinking of you while I eat my daily bowl of......




Got to love it. I provide proof of what it detoxes from (to include a video) and she doesn't even watch it, but says she is waiting for "proof". Can you say, "ice cream causes brain cells to freeze and die". I sure can give you proof of that one.

I suppose if I didn't have the answers, I'd bail too.

OP won't pay attention to you, you provided no proof. "Just words" are nothing of value.
Edited by _Lori_Lynn_ On March 16, 2013 9:50 PM
March 16, 2013 9:47 PM
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You really do not have to mess around with detoxes or cleanses (which can be harmful, depending on which ones they are, and do not detox anything).


Please provide proof of the cleanses which harm and why. And also of proof they do not detox from anything. We provided otherwise (how cleanses help) even posted a video. What you say is untrue. A cleanse done within a reasonable amount of time cannot harm you. If you do it for 100 days, yes it may, but for one to ten days. No way!


Here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/927327-cleanse-why-you-are-lucky-they-don-t-work

If it worked, it would likely be bad for you.


No one has ever died or been harmed as such from a cleanse in documented history that I have found.
Edited by _Lori_Lynn_ On March 16, 2013 9:53 PM
March 16, 2013 9:51 PM
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Got to love it. I provide proof of what it detoxes from (to include a video) and she doesn't even watch it, but says she is waiting for "proof". Can you say, "ice cream causes brain cells to freeze and die". I sure can give you proof of that one.

I suppose if I didn't have the answers, I'd bail too.


ad hominem...again

A video is not 'proof' of anything.
  18358448
March 16, 2013 9:51 PM
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So this is basically an elimination diet like the ones used by doctors to discover allergies or an intolerance. It doesn't really explain any kind of toxins other than that. I don't see how following an elimination diet if you don't have an allergy or intolerance would help anything. To each their own.

Oh yeah and the foods that have toxins, buckwheat, fish, some meats, some veggies (like you mentioned spinach but really a lot of them). I'm not saying that any of these are toxic but most food either contains or produces, as a byproduct of digestion, chemicals which are 'toxic' and must be filtered out by your liver.

I think the liver does a fine job and that it doesn't need a break but if you are doing a "cleanse" to give your liver a break, I cannot see really eating or drinking much of anything outside of water to do that. I can understand the idea of a "water fast" or fasting, I can even get with someone doing it for the purposes of a cleanse (again I don't think it is necessary but I can understand it) but I cannot see how simply eating some things but not others (when pretty much everything has or produces some kind of "toxin") does anything really at all.

The book explains more. The diet doesn't just get rid of allergens. It gets rid of most food made by factory farms, processed meats, low nutrition grains, seafood that is the most likely to have toxins, oils high in free radicals, foods that do damage to the liver or disrupt detoxification, most food that spikes blood sugar a lot, etc. There are reasons for removing all those foods.

It's the foods that are full of nutrients is what is really important and fruits and vegetables do that with lower toxins than most food. You also can't be concerned with every little toxin because you wouldn't eat anything. I think the most important ones are obviously the allergens. There's a reason people are allergic to them. Toxins like mold or irritants or just that it doesn't digest well.
March 16, 2013 9:53 PM
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Got to love it. I provide proof of what it detoxes from (to include a video) and she doesn't even watch it, but says she is waiting for "proof". Can you say, "ice cream causes brain cells to freeze and die". I sure can give you proof of that one.

I suppose if I didn't have the answers, I'd bail too.


ad hominem...again

A video is not 'proof' of anything.


Hehe, gotcha. Remember, you weren't going to "speak to me about it". The video proved a lot, but you'll never be the wiser on that one. I'm off now to eat my ice cream and this is the last thing I'll say to you. And guess what? When I say something I actually follow through.
Edited by _Lori_Lynn_ On March 16, 2013 9:55 PM
March 16, 2013 9:55 PM
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Got to love it. I provide proof of what it detoxes from (to include a video) and she doesn't even watch it, but says she is waiting for "proof". Can you say, "ice cream causes brain cells to freeze and die". I sure can give you proof of that one.

I suppose if I didn't have the answers, I'd bail too.


ad hominem...again

A video is not 'proof' of anything.


Hehe, gotcha. Remember, you weren't going to "speak to me about it". The video proved a lot, but you'll never be the wiser on that one. I'm off now to eat my ice cream and this is the last thing I'll say to you. And guess what? When I say something I actually follow through.


What can I say...it is so enlightening 'talking' to you...you are very hard to resist.
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