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April 3, 2013 7:39 PM
I wouldn't chance it, and I don't think it would help the taste at all :)

I use a whey based protein powder every time I make a smoothie and usually use milk with my fruit instead of juice, so I get enough protein to keep me satisfied for a while.
April 3, 2013 7:39 PM
I did it once.. it was yucky.. I don't like yucky things..
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April 3, 2013 7:42 PM
It worked for my grandfather... good enough for me. I still use them from time to time. Never had a problem. And I routinely combine whey/eggs/casein with milk. Mmmm...mmmm.
Edited by JJordon On April 3, 2013 7:42 PM
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April 3, 2013 7:48 PM
People in Japan regularly consume raw or 'undercooked' eggs in restaurants and at home and it's pretty much accepted by the government...probably because most eggs are pastured there anyway...
  29487459
April 3, 2013 8:02 PM
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see i'd always heard for instance that scrambling eggs is the worst way to eat them in terms of bio availability.


Here ya go coach!!! Thought I'd help you out with this one.

Full article here: http://www.drmercola.net/food/dr-mercola-urges-you-to-eat-more-eggs/

How You Cook Eggs Can Affect the Benefits You Reap from Them

You may have heard the warning of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other public health organizations about how to cook eggs. The recommendation is to thoroughly cook the egg for you to avoid contracting salmonella. However, according to Dr. Mercola, eating eggs raw is the best way to go.

The risk of salmonella only comes from eggs that come from unsanitary conditions – mostly from CAFO’s – and rarely from organic farms. In fact, a study by the British government saw that 23 percent of farms that have caged hens had a high rate of salmonella, while organic flocks had just over four percent and 6.5 percent in free-range chickens. Another study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) showed that about 2.3 million out of 69 billion eggs produced annually in the U.S. are contaminated with salmonella – which is approximately 30,000 eggs. (link)

Aside from salmonella, allergies are also associated with eggs. But Dr. Mercola says that you can only receive allergies from eggs if they are cooked too much, as heating the egg protein alters its chemical shape. The distortion that forms is what causes the allergic reaction. Eating an egg raw will help you avoid allergies and also preserves the many nutrients enclosed in it, such as lutein and zeaxanthin – which help prevent age-related macular degeneration.

Dr. Mercola also shares other recommendations when it comes to eating eggs:
•The texture of the egg white is usually an issue among people, so instead of consuming the egg white, discard it and leave the egg yolk.You may also blend the entire egg into a shake or smoothie.Dr. Mercola shares that he consumes only the yolk and removes the white part because it contains too much protein.
•Do not consume the egg whites without the egg yolk. Egg whites contain avidin, which binds to biotin. When you cook the egg white, the avidin is no longer an issue. If you consume the both yolk and white, there is no danger of having too much avidin because the yolk supplies enough biotin.
•Pregnant women are special cases because they are prone to biotin deficiency, and consuming whole raw eggs may make this worse.Dr. Mercola says that pregnant women have two options: ◦Have your biotin levels tested by urinary excretion of 3-hydroxyisovaleric acid (3-HIA). 3-HIA increases as a result of the reduced activity of methylcrotonyl-CoA carboxylase, a biotin-dependent enzyme.
◦When you find that you are deficient, you may take a biotin supplement or consume only the yolk raw, with the white cooked.

•If you don’t want to eat a raw egg, your next best choice is soft-boiled.
•Eating your eggs scrambled is one of the worst ways to consume them. When eggs are scrambled, the cholesterol inside the yolk becomes oxidized. People who have high cholesterol levels should avoid eating their eggs scrambled.
April 3, 2013 8:08 PM
My mom always made egg nog with raw egg yolks to nourish my baby brother when he wasn't gaining weight. He was a very sickly child and didn't eat well and often the milk and eggs were all the nutrition he was able to get down.

I admit that I ALWAYS eat raw cookie dough and have never gotten sick, but I only consume organic, free range chicken eggs. Virtually everything in life comes with an element of risk (a person could choke to death on a jelly bean). It's up to you to decide if the benefits outweigh the risks but it seems like the risk is pretty low.

Good luck!
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April 3, 2013 8:30 PM
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see i'd always heard for instance that scrambling eggs is the worst way to eat them in terms of bio availability.


Here ya go coach!!! Thought I'd help you out with this one.

Full article here: http://www.drmercola.net/food/dr-mercola-urges-you-to-eat-more-eggs/

How You Cook Eggs Can Affect the Benefits You Reap from Them

You may have heard the warning of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other public health organizations about how to cook eggs. The recommendation is to thoroughly cook the egg for you to avoid contracting salmonella. However, according to Dr. Mercola, eating eggs raw is the best way to go.

The risk of salmonella only comes from eggs that come from unsanitary conditions – mostly from CAFO’s – and rarely from organic farms. In fact, a study by the British government saw that 23 percent of farms that have caged hens had a high rate of salmonella, while organic flocks had just over four percent and 6.5 percent in free-range chickens. Another study by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) showed that about 2.3 million out of 69 billion eggs produced annually in the U.S. are contaminated with salmonella – which is approximately 30,000 eggs. (link)

Aside from salmonella, allergies are also associated with eggs. But Dr. Mercola says that you can only receive allergies from eggs if they are cooked too much, as heating the egg protein alters its chemical shape. The distortion that forms is what causes the allergic reaction. Eating an egg raw will help you avoid allergies and also preserves the many nutrients enclosed in it, such as lutein and zeaxanthin – which help prevent age-related macular degeneration.

Dr. Mercola also shares other recommendations when it comes to eating eggs:
•The texture of the egg white is usually an issue among people, so instead of consuming the egg white, discard it and leave the egg yolk.You may also blend the entire egg into a shake or smoothie.Dr. Mercola shares that he consumes only the yolk and removes the white part because it contains too much protein.
•Do not consume the egg whites without the egg yolk. Egg whites contain avidin, which binds to biotin. When you cook the egg white, the avidin is no longer an issue. If you consume the both yolk and white, there is no danger of having too much avidin because the yolk supplies enough biotin.
•Pregnant women are special cases because they are prone to biotin deficiency, and consuming whole raw eggs may make this worse.Dr. Mercola says that pregnant women have two options: ◦Have your biotin levels tested by urinary excretion of 3-hydroxyisovaleric acid (3-HIA). 3-HIA increases as a result of the reduced activity of methylcrotonyl-CoA carboxylase, a biotin-dependent enzyme.
◦When you find that you are deficient, you may take a biotin supplement or consume only the yolk raw, with the white cooked.

•If you don’t want to eat a raw egg, your next best choice is soft-boiled.
•Eating your eggs scrambled is one of the worst ways to consume them. When eggs are scrambled, the cholesterol inside the yolk becomes oxidized. People who have high cholesterol levels should avoid eating their eggs scrambled.


since this was mercola i did more looking, and basically... you can find a study to back up either argument...

some say scrambling oxidizes the cholesterol, some say it doesn't, some say it does a little bit but that it isn't enough to harm you. some say you should eat eggs raw. some say you shouldn't.

*sigh*
  20419576
April 3, 2013 8:39 PM
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since this was mercola i did more looking, and basically... you can find a study to back up either argument...

some say scrambling oxidizes the cholesterol, some say it doesn't, some say it does a little bit but that it isn't enough to harm you. some say you should eat eggs raw. some say you shouldn't.

*sigh*


Lol.... always two sides to every argument. I know that I have eaten raw eggs for years with no harm to myself. Ex: raw cookie dough, actually cracking two eggs in a glass and drinking them down (that was rough), and I put them in smoothies, which I am enjoying one right now.
April 3, 2013 8:45 PM
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since this was mercola i did more looking, and basically... you can find a study to back up either argument...

some say scrambling oxidizes the cholesterol, some say it doesn't, some say it does a little bit but that it isn't enough to harm you. some say you should eat eggs raw. some say you shouldn't.

*sigh*


Lol.... always two sides to every argument. I know that I have eaten raw eggs for years with no harm to myself. Ex: raw cookie dough, actually cracking two eggs in a glass and drinking them down (that was rough), and I put them in smoothies, which I am enjoying one right now.


well we DO know that raw eggs wont harm you, it's just up in the air whether they're *better* for you than cooked, or not... and if scrambled is bad but hard boiled is good, etc, etc... so many different opinions out there that are all based in legit studies. lol
Edited by CoachReddy On April 3, 2013 8:45 PM
  20419576
April 3, 2013 8:54 PM
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QUOTE:

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since this was mercola i did more looking, and basically... you can find a study to back up either argument...

some say scrambling oxidizes the cholesterol, some say it doesn't, some say it does a little bit but that it isn't enough to harm you. some say you should eat eggs raw. some say you shouldn't.

*sigh*


Lol.... always two sides to every argument. I know that I have eaten raw eggs for years with no harm to myself. Ex: raw cookie dough, actually cracking two eggs in a glass and drinking them down (that was rough), and I put them in smoothies, which I am enjoying one right now.


well we DO know that raw eggs wont harm you, it's just up in the air whether they're *better* for you than cooked, or not... and if scrambled is bad but hard boiled is good, etc, etc... so many different opinions out there that are all based in legit studies. lol


Mercola? Legit?

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April 3, 2013 8:57 PM
I have gotten salmonella once, and it wasnt from eggs. It was from a gross house. Youre more likely to get it from pet reptiles and birds
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April 3, 2013 8:58 PM
I grew up with raw egg smoothies,,,,neither myself or any of my family every got salmonella, or sick for that matter.
  10094181
April 3, 2013 8:59 PM
I have had like 7 raw eggs in my smoothies every other day for about two years now--I haven't gotten ill once. I've also had raw eggs without anything else :P Yummy (not)

I'm from Oregon if that helps at all
April 3, 2013 9:00 PM
my hubby has a smoothie almost every morning with raw eggs 2 to be exact
April 3, 2013 9:13 PM
I remember reading about a USDA survey done about 5-7 years ago that found that about 30 percent of eggs had salmonella. Yes, back in the day, we ate raw eggs all the time. I myself used to put a raw egg in my milkshakes. But the way chickens are raised and fed is different these days. At least, that is what I am given to understand.
I believe it is not unlike the situation with pork. Back in the day, you never ate undercooked pork because of the trichinosis problem. But, they fed pigs offal in those days,so many pigs were infected. Now they feed pig corn, and most restaurants serve your pork rare, if you don't specify.
Course, not every infected egg will make you sick. Some infected eggs are only infected in the shell. But, there have been many deaths in the US, 82 deaths, to be exact, between 1985 and 2003 (Washington Post).
Edited by tufel On April 3, 2013 9:25 PM
April 3, 2013 11:06 PM
If you want to add egg whites to your smoothie, pasteurized powdered/dried egg whites would probably be your best bet.
  40152102
April 4, 2013 3:17 AM
I did it daily for years. I used to mix in a whole raw egg into my protein drink whenever I had one (one or more times per day). No ill effects...that was when I was bulking up. smile
  34249682
April 4, 2013 8:32 AM
Coming from a family of people who, by God's grace, typically live to ripe old ages, and who've consumed natural foods, raw farm eggs and milk regularly, I really am unconcerned with what some backwards, anti-raw-egg people would say on here.

This is the same crowd who thinks margarine is better than butter. That aspartame and saccharine are better for you than natural sugars, and that meats from feces-clogged CAFOs are as healthy as meat from pastured animals. laugh

And for anyone who insists GM foods are as healthy as natural foods, I'd say, "CHOW DOWN!"

If you like fake food with the cancer-causing and sterility-inducing pesticides built right in, then bon apetit.
Edited by brightisland On April 4, 2013 8:34 AM
  8929831
April 4, 2013 8:46 AM
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Coming from a family of people who, by God's grace, typically live to ripe old ages, and who've consumed natural foods, raw farm eggs and milk regularly, I really am unconcerned with what some backwards, anti-raw-egg people would say on here.

This is the same crowd who thinks margarine is better than butter. That aspartame and saccharine are better for you than natural sugars, and that meats from feces-clogged CAFOs are as healthy as meat from pastured animals. laugh

And for anyone who insists GM foods are as healthy as natural foods, I'd say, "CHOW DOWN!"

If you like fake food with the cancer-causing and sterility-inducing pesticides built right in, then bon apetit.


Didn't you say this on page 1?

You really like to categorize people. "People who believe x ALSO believe y."

Well, hate to burst your bubble. I encourage people not to eat raw eggs, but also encourage them to eat butter instead of margarine. I think aspartame is fine, but not "better for you" than natural sugars. I think meat from factory farms is pretty much the same as from "pastured animals."
  6438378
April 4, 2013 9:37 AM
I'm referring to the same so-called scientific experts, not anyone on here, necessarily.

Do you really trust much that comes out of the USDA? The FDA? Considering the revolving door between our federal government and the major corporations that prop up the GMO industry and the pharmaceutical industries, I'd say there's more than a little conflict of interest involved. For instance, let's just look at Monsanto and the US Government:

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Monsanto Position/ Individual / Federal Government Position

Head of Government Affairs for Genetech, (Now Monsanto)
David Beier
Chief Domestic Policy Advisor to Vice President Gore

Worked for Monsanto’s Legal Team
William Conlon
Department of Justice

Worked for Monsanto’s Legal Team
Sam Skinner
Department of Justice

Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer
Robert Fraley
Serves as advisor in pubic agencies, including the USDA, among others

Senior Vice President for Clinical Affairs at G.D. Searle & Co (Merged with Monsanto)
Michael A. Friedman
Acting Commissioner of the FDA

Director of International Government Affairs
Marcia Hale
Asst. to Pres. Clinton and Director of Governmental Affairs

Consultant to Searle’s (Merged with Monsanto) Public Relations Firm
Arthur Hull Hayes
Previously was FDA Commissioner

Director of ESH Quality & Compliance
John L. Henshaw
Senior Advisor to U.S. Secretary of Labor

Vice President of Product and Technology Cooperation
Rob Horsch
Advisor to the National Science Foundation and the Dept. of Energy

Board of Directors, also represented Monsanto as a lawyer
Michael Kantor
U.S. Secretary of Commerce

Monsanto Board Member
Gwendolyn S. King
Commissioner of SSA 1989-1992

CEO of Monsanto for 14 years
Richard J. Mahoney
Served as Director of U.S. Soviet, Japanese and Korean Trade Councils, a Member of the U.S. Government Trade Policy Committee

Oversaw the Approval of rBGH, was a top Monsanto scientist
Margaret Miller
In 1991, Margaret was appointed Deputy Director of the FDA

Sits on Monsanto’s Board of Directors, previously a Monsanto Animal Specialist
George Poste
In 2002, Poste was appointed head of Bioterrorism division of Homeland Security

Member of the Monsanto Board of Directors
William D. Ruckelshaus
In 1970, he was the first Chief Administrator for the EPA, later the acting director of the FBI, then Deputy U.S. Attorney General

Previous CEO of Searle (Merged with Monsanto), he successfully had aspartame legalized while in that position.
Donald Rumsfeld
Appointed to Secretary of Defense in 1975, then appointed to the same position again in 2000

Worked on Monsanto-funded rBGH in connection with her graduate work at Cornell University
Suzanne Sechen
FDA Reviewer on Scientific Data

Previously the President and COO of Monsanto, Chairman and CEO of Nutrasweet, and Chairman and CEO of Monsanto
Robert B. Shapiro
Previously served on President’s Advisory Committee on Trade Policy and on the White House Domestic Policy Review of Industrial Innovation

Former Vice President of CropLife America, which represented Monsanto
Islam Siddiqui
Chief Agricultural Negotiator for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative

Former Attorney for Monsanto for seven years, previous head of the Monsanto Washington, D.C. office
Michael Taylor
Former FDA Deputy Commission for Policy. In 2010, appointed by Barack Obama to the FDA as a senior advisor to the FDA Commissioner.

Previous Monsanto Researcher in charge of the Manhattan Project, creating the atomic bomb. Later became Monsanto’s Chairman of the Board.
Dr. Charles Thomas
Previously served as a consultant to the National Security Council and as a U.S. Representative to the United Nations’ Atomic Energy Commission

Former lawyer for Monsanto, a notorious chemical polluter.
Clarence Thomas
In 1991, was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court

Previously served on the Board of Directors of Calgene, a Monsanto Biotech subsidiary.
Anne Veneman
In 2001, was appointed head of the USDA

Former Staff Lawyer with Monsanto in Washington, D.C.
Jack Watson
Chief of Staff to Pres. Jimmy Carter

Hired by Monsanto to prosecute two farmers who fought against Monsanto’s seed policies in 2002
Seth Waxman
Former U.S. Solicitor General

Retired Senior Vice President for Public Policy at Monsanto
Dr. Virginia Weldon
Previously, was a member of the FDA’s Metabolism & Endocrine Advisory Committee

Former Chief Counsel at Monsanto
Rufus Yerxa
In 1993, was nominated as U.S. Deputy to the World Trade Organization

Monsanto Consultant
Toby Moffett
U.S. Congressman (Democrat)

Monsanto Legal Counsel
Dennis DeConcini
U.S. Senator (Democrat)

Director, International Government Affairs
Josh King
White House Communications (Clinton)

Monsanto Lobbyist
Carol Tucker-Foreman
White House-appointed Consumer Adv. (Clinton)

Vice President, Government & Public Affairs
Linda Fisher
Deputy Admin EPA (Clinton, Bush)

Manager, New Technologies
Lidia Watrud
USDA, EPA (Clinton, Bush, Obama)

Rose Law Firm, Monsanto Counsel
Hillary Clinton
U.S. Sen (D), Sec of State (Obama)

Director, Monsanto Danforth Center
Roger Beachy
Dir, USDA NIFA (Obama)
Edited by brightisland On April 4, 2013 9:42 AM
  8929831
April 4, 2013 9:40 AM
QUOTE:

I'm referring to the same so-called scientific experts, not anyone on here, necessarily.

Do you really trust much that comes out of the USDA? The FDA? Considering the revolving door between our federal government and the major corporations that prop up the GMO industry and the pharmaceutical industries, I'd say there's more than a little conflict of interest involved. For instance, let's just look at Monsanto and the US Government:

Monsanto Position Individual Federal Government Position
Head of Government Affairs for Genetech, (Now Monsanto) David Beier Chief Domestic Policy Advisor to Vice President Gore
Worked for Monsanto’s Legal Team William Conlon Department of Justice
Worked for Monsanto’s Legal Team Sam Skinner Department of Justice
Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer Robert Fraley Serves as advisor in pubic agencies, including the USDA, among others
Senior Vice President for Clinical Affairs at G.D. Searle & Co (Merged with Monsanto) Michael A. Friedman Acting Commissioner of the FDA
Director of International Government Affairs Marcia Hale Asst. to Pres. Clinton and Director of Governmental Affairs
Consultant to Searle’s (Merged with Monsanto) Public Relations Firm Arthur Hull Hayes Previously was FDA Commissioner
Director of ESH Quality & Compliance John L. Henshaw Senior Advisor to U.S. Secretary of Labor
Vice President of Product and Technology Cooperation Rob Horsch Advisor to the National Science Foundation and the Dept. of Energy
Board of Directors, also represented Monsanto as a lawyer Michael Kantor U.S. Secretary of Commerce
Monsanto Board Member Gwendolyn S. King Commissioner of SSA 1989-1992
CEO of Monsanto for 14 years Richard J. Mahoney Served as Director of U.S. Soviet, Japanese and Korean Trade Councils, a Member of the U.S. Government Trade Policy Committee
Oversaw the Approval of rBGH, was a top Monsanto scientist Margaret Miller In 1991, Margaret was appointed Deputy Director of the FDA
Sits on Monsanto’s Board of Directors, previously a Monsanto Animal Specialist George Poste In 2002, Poste was appointed head of Bioterrorism division of Homeland Security
Member of the Monsanto Board of Directors William D. Ruckelshaus In 1970, he was the first Chief Administrator for the EPA, later the acting director of the FBI, then Deputy U.S. Attorney General
Previous CEO of Searle (Merged with Monsanto), he successfully had aspartame legalized while in that position. Donald Rumsfeld Appointed to Secretary of Defense in 1975, then appointed to the same position again in 2000
Worked on Monsanto-funded rBGH in connection with her graduate work at Cornell University Suzanne Sechen FDA Reviewer on Scientific Data
Previously the President and COO of Monsanto, Chairman and CEO of Nutrasweet, and Chairman and CEO of Monsanto Robert B. Shapiro Previously served on President’s Advisory Committee on Trade Policy and on the White House Domestic Policy Review of Industrial Innovation
Former Vice President of CropLife America, which represented Monsanto Islam Siddiqui Chief Agricultural Negotiator for the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
Former Attorney for Monsanto for seven years, previous head of the Monsanto Washington, D.C. office Michael Taylor Former FDA Deputy Commission for Policy. In 2010, appointed by Barack Obama to the FDA as a senior advisor to the FDA Commissioner.
Previous Monsanto Researcher in charge of the Manhattan Project, creating the atomic bomb. Later became Monsanto’s Chairman of the Board. Dr. Charles Thomas Previously served as a consultant to the National Security Council and as a U.S. Representative to the United Nations’ Atomic Energy Commission
Former lawyer for Monsanto, a notorious chemical polluter. Clarence Thomas In 1991, was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court
Previously served on the Board of Directors of Calgene, a Monsanto Biotech subsidiary. Anne Veneman In 2001, was appointed head of the USDA
Former Staff Lawyer with Monsanto in Washington, D.C. Jack Watson Chief of Staff to Pres. Jimmy Carter
Hired by Monsanto to prosecute two farmers who fought against Monsanto’s seed policies in 2002 Seth Waxman Former U.S. Solicitor General
Retired Senior Vice President for Public Policy at Monsanto Dr. Virginia Weldon Previously, was a member of the FDA’s Metabolism & Endocrine Advisory Committee
Former Chief Counsel at Monsanto Rufus Yerxa In 1993, was nominated as U.S. Deputy to the World Trade Organization
Monsanto Consultant Toby Moffett U.S. Congressman (Democrat)
Monsanto Legal Counsel Dennis DeConcini U.S. Senator (Democrat)
Director, International Government Affairs Josh King White House Communications (Clinton)
Monsanto Lobbyist Carol Tucker-Foreman White House-appointed Consumer Adv. (Clinton)
Vice President, Government & Public Affairs Linda Fisher Deputy Admin EPA (Clinton, Bush)
Manager, New Technologies Lidia Watrud USDA, EPA (Clinton, Bush, Obama)
Rose Law Firm, Monsanto Counsel Hillary Clinton U.S. Sen (D), Sec of State (Obama)
Director, Monsanto Danforth Center Roger Beachy Dir, USDA NIFA (Obama)


Stuff like this shouldn't surprise anyone. In general, the people who obtain high positions in the federal government in a particular field have demonstrated ability and experience operating at a high level in that field. So most of the people who are at high levels in the Department of Education have experience at universities and school boards; most of the people who are at high levels in the USDA have experience running agricultural firms; most of the people at high levels in the Department of Energy have experience at high levels in energy companies like Exxon etc.
  6438378
April 4, 2013 9:45 AM
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Stuff like this shouldn't surprise anyone. In general, the people who obtain high positions in the federal government in a particular field have demonstrated ability and experience operating at a high level in that field. So most of the people who are at high levels in the Department of Education have experience at universities and school boards; most of the people who are at high levels in the USDA have experience running agricultural firms; most of the people at high levels in the Department of Energy have experience at high levels in energy companies like Exxon etc.


You're probably right. I'm sure it's all about virtue and aptitude and has NOTHING to do with cronyism or lobbying payoffs. laugh
  8929831
April 4, 2013 9:52 AM
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QUOTE:


Stuff like this shouldn't surprise anyone. In general, the people who obtain high positions in the federal government in a particular field have demonstrated ability and experience operating at a high level in that field. So most of the people who are at high levels in the Department of Education have experience at universities and school boards; most of the people who are at high levels in the USDA have experience running agricultural firms; most of the people at high levels in the Department of Energy have experience at high levels in energy companies like Exxon etc.


You're probably right. I'm sure it's all about virtue and aptitude and has NOTHING to do with cronyism or lobbying payoffs. laugh


It has nothing to do with virtue and aptitude,but it does have a lot to do with experience in the field.
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