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February 22, 2013 9:37 AM
When I search for a food, I want the option to sort the official entries to the top of the results. I have to scroll through a thousand duplicates (all with varying info) just to find the the USDA entry for bacon, egg, apple, or whatever. And that's IF it even shows up! Sometimes you need to get really specific to find what you're after or else too many results come up and the official entries are missing.

It really can't be that hard to implement this - you already put a * next to everything that is not official, so just sort using the same field used to display or hide that asterisk.

In fact, this doesn't even need to be an option, just do it by default. I can't see any reason why people *wouldn't* want the official entries before all the other user-submitted junk anyhow.
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February 22, 2013 9:38 AM
Please!
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February 22, 2013 9:42 AM
Agree 100%!!
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February 22, 2013 9:50 AM
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When I search for a food, I want the option to sort the official entries to the top of the results. I have to scroll through a thousand duplicates (all with varying info) just to find the the USDA entry for bacon, egg, apple, or whatever. And that's IF it even shows up! Sometimes you need to get really specific to find what you're after or else too many results come up and the official entries are missing.

It really can't be that hard to implement this - you already put a * next to everything that is not official, so just sort using the same field used to display or hide that asterisk.

In fact, this doesn't even need to be an option, just do it by default. I can't see any reason why people *wouldn't* want the official entries before all the other user-submitted junk anyhow.

as far as i can tell, when you search on the mobile app it already does this (at least it did with my banana this morning...)- i dont think it would be too hard to implement on the site as well. it is kind of a pain to have to scroll through tons of entries in alphabetical order to get to the MFP entry
Edited by rockerbabyy On February 22, 2013 10:13 AM
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February 22, 2013 4:31 PM
looks like its already being implemented! dont know if its for everything or not, but i searched for "egg" "lettuce" "carrot" "cheese" "milk" and "jicama raw" and the official entries were at the (if not close to) the top of the list.
thanks powers that be :D
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April 26, 2013 5:42 AM
I second this idea!!!! I don't know how the raw database is set up but if you could somehow "tag" the USDA Nutrient Database entries so that it's easier for us to search those first - or at least to identify them easily in the search results - that would be an AMAZING IMPROVEMENT!!!!

It used to be easy to identify the USDA entries because of the format ("bananas, raw" instead of "A banana" for example).
Now that more and more people are joining the community and adding foods, entries that mimic the format of USDA Nutrien Database are popping up. That drives me NUTS; it's a time-waster. I'd rather use the official entry that I know is correct and complete. For most of the new foods I enter, the USDA entries aren't that close to the top.
April 29, 2013 6:37 AM
Agree, this would be most helpful.
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April 29, 2013 6:41 AM
Yes please - add my vote to this. Being able to find the USDA entries first would make this site much more user-friendly.
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April 29, 2013 6:44 AM
Well for one we all dont live in the US or go by their food database.
Edited by Mads1997 On April 29, 2013 6:45 AM
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April 29, 2013 6:59 AM
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Well for one we all dont live in the US or go by their food database.


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So you prefer having random people's entries be first on your list over something with some kind of standards even if they aren't from your country of residence. Awesome.
April 29, 2013 5:21 PM
Firstly, i agree with the OP. The database is an absolute mess, which is only going to get worse the longer people can't sort or filter records to find what they need. It's a big downward self-perpetuating spiral. Myfitnesspal.com will soon become unusable if this is not sorted out and the database cleaned out. It would not be difficult to have an option to sort as you ask, or even filter for particular entry types and frankly i'm surprised the database doesnt already allow this.

With regards to the post above, I dont know if you realise that the US has different labelling laws and standards than most of the rest of the world. The issue of dietary fibre and carbs comes to mind (google 'net carbs') along with non-standards such as serving sizes and units of measurement.
Many people use this app for many different reasons, and from many different countries, so you would do well to remember that. In my particular case, i can't use usda entries as i am carefully carb tracking. The difference in standards across countries means that if i do, my counts will be incorrect.
So next time, rather than attacking someone who points out that not everyone uses usda figures, maybe a more well thought out post would be a better option.
May 1, 2013 8:40 PM
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as far as i can tell, when you search on the mobile app it already does this (at least it did with my banana this morning...)- i dont think it would be too hard to implement on the site as well. it is kind of a pain to have to scroll through tons of entries in alphabetical order to get to the MFP entry


There must be two different search algorithms? When I do the search from the website (the only access have) for just the word "banana" I don't get any entries that do not have an asterisk.

Edited to add: oops, I went back and checked again, there is one entry (assuming I didn't miss more). It's for a "pepper banana raw"

(What the heck is a pepper banana?)
Edited by dondimitri On May 1, 2013 8:43 PM
May 1, 2013 8:44 PM
love this - great thought! My vote it for yes, please :)
May 2, 2013 3:24 PM
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QUOTE:

as far as i can tell, when you search on the mobile app it already does this (at least it did with my banana this morning...)- i dont think it would be too hard to implement on the site as well. it is kind of a pain to have to scroll through tons of entries in alphabetical order to get to the MFP entry


There must be two different search algorithms? When I do the search from the website (the only access have) for just the word "banana" I don't get any entries that do not have an asterisk.

Edited to add: oops, I went back and checked again, there is one entry (assuming I didn't miss more). It's for a "pepper banana raw"

(What the heck is a pepper banana?)

ive found that i have to search for "bananas" on the website to get the non-asterisk entry ...cant remember if i have to add the s on the app or not.
and banana peppers are awesome :D its a medium-sized member of the chili pepper family that has a mild, tangy taste. i think theyre also called wax peppers
Edited by rockerbabyy On May 2, 2013 3:54 PM
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May 2, 2013 3:37 PM
Yessss!
May 2, 2013 8:32 PM
QUOTE:

ive found that i have to search for "bananas" on the website to get the non-asterisk entry ...cant remember if i have to add the s on the app or not.


You're right! If you just type "banana" you don't get any "bananas" entries. I didn't realize that.

I don't think that is the way it should work. I wonder how many searches end up failed because the person didn't type in the exact string. Google or any other real search engine sure doesn't work that way.

Now that I think about it that is probably a reason the database has grown so much; people can't find what they are looking for and so they add a new entry. Wow, so many things to fix here...
Edited by dondimitri On May 2, 2013 8:35 PM
May 2, 2013 9:15 PM
That database is crazy. By the end of my first day (joined 9 days ago), I was done messing with it. Every food on my list now, and any future addition, is my own creation - using nutritional info I put in and know to be correct, either from the package or the official USDA Nutrient Database. This additionally allows me to personalize the description to my specs, which is never brand name first and I don't need a half-dozen words to describe a slice of bread.

I also don't "share" My Foods creations because then I don't have the option to delete it if I want it off my list completely - you can only Edit if you have selected to share your creation.

The time and effort it takes to create my own personal database is worth the streamlined end result.
Edited by RJay64 On May 2, 2013 9:37 PM
May 3, 2013 12:04 PM
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Well for one we all dont live in the US or go by their food database.


Well, I don't live in the USA either, and I created this thread... But I'd rather use the USDA/confirmed food entries than any of the random, incorrect, incomplete, **** entries that users decide to clutter up the database with.

This is really not hard for MyFitnessPal's programmers to do, either by default, or, to appease the non-Americans, via a user-configurable setting.
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