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February 1, 2013 12:06 AM
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You will be skinny fat
Not if you're lifting heavy!laugh

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February 1, 2013 12:07 AM
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Thanks for your input. That said, everyones opinion matters here and no one is definitely wrong about this subject. I have, however eaten alot less fast food and snacks like chocolates and pastries and those delicious premade nestle cookies that come in squares and take like 15 minutes to bake(yumm). These changes have led to immediate results that I can see just by looking in the mirror. I don't think its necessary to stop any "unhealthy" eating habit cold turkey. I think its best to just practice quantity control and have a better understanding of what will make you fat vs. what will make you fit


Yeah, definitely agree. And nothing against having food opinions about additives, sweeteners, GMOs, etc as long as no one (with authority) is trying to pass them off as facts at this point. So it's more about the teaching than the opinions.

I'm doing the same thing - there's no way I'm skipping pizza for the rest of my life. But every other Friday instead of weekly and half a pizza instead of a whole now. :)


I would do dirty things for a well-done pizza with pepperoni, bacon, and ham. Just throw the whole pig on there. love
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February 1, 2013 12:07 AM
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Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

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And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his sh*t, his insides are going to go sh*t as well, and he won't be very healthy.

Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t smile
Well no, the OP never stated that McD's or Macadamia cookies are the staple of their intake. She just asked if she could have it.
80/20 rule would work here.

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It doesn't matter if he specifically SAID what he was going to eat or not. He asked if he could eat anything he wanted. My point in saying "Technically yes, but it wouldn't be very healthy" was to say that if "anything you want" are only the things you just listed (or comparable food items), then yes, you will lose weight but no, you will not be healthy.

If "anything I want" accommodates 80/20, then fine. If "anything I want" accommodates 20/80, I would ASSUME thats not healthy.

But then again I'm not a professional....Never claimed to be, so what do I know?! lol flowerforyou
I agree on the 20/80!wink

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February 1, 2013 12:07 AM
so to sum it up , yes u can eat what u want if it fits your macros
February 1, 2013 12:12 AM
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Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

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And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his sh*t, his insides are going to go sh*t as well, and he won't be very healthy.

Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t smile
Well no, the OP never stated that McD's or Macadamia cookies are the staple of their intake. She just asked if she could have it.
80/20 rule would work here.

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It doesn't matter if he specifically SAID what he was going to eat or not. He asked if he could eat anything he wanted. My point in saying "Technically yes, but it wouldn't be very healthy" was to say that if "anything you want" are only the things you just listed (or comparable food items), then yes, you will lose weight but no, you will not be healthy.

If "anything I want" accommodates 80/20, then fine. If "anything I want" accommodates 20/80, I would ASSUME thats not healthy.

But then again I'm not a professional....Never claimed to be, so what do I know?! lol flowerforyou
I agree on the 20/80!wink

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February 1, 2013 1:34 AM
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For the love of god please stop talking about McD's, the thought of it makes me feel like I'm going to throw up. >.<sick

It's good to look at the QUALITY of calories than the QUANTITY - what's a few pounds off the scale if I still look & feel like crap? I want to be healthy & feel amazing! Wouldn't you?

I eat pretty darn well, & the only thing I have regularly in my diet that isn't totally healthy is cheese - I love cheese & don't ever want to give it up, but I do have it more in moderation now, & usually choose mozzarella which is lower in fat & cals in comparison to most other cheese.
This isn't to say I don't have pizza every once in awhile - I am human.

I'd much rather eat 2,000 calories of good food than 1,000 calories of fat & sugar.
Clean eating DOESN'T ensure health. If we're doing direct comparisons of bodies, then my profile should look like **** if quality of food is all that counted when it comes to health. I should have high cholesterol, clogged arteries, massive liver damage and more since I've been eating McD's since 3rd grade. No dice. I'm healthier than many 25 year old males. Goes to show that nutrition is only part of the circle. It's important no doubt, but one doesn't have to eat like a caveman to be healthy.

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Umm, where did I say clean eating ensures health? Oh wait, I didn't.

I said it's good to look at the quality of calories you're consuming as opposed to flat out quantity. Ideally, a person would want to eat healthy to feel healthy too. It's not black & white, but I'd bet $100 on black that I'd feel like crap if I ate for 3 days at McD's. Hell I'd feel like crap after eating 1 day.
  1364763
February 1, 2013 1:38 AM
My personal experience - not what the bloke nex door says blah blah blah - is yes you can for poundage loss on the scales

However, if at the end of the journey you want to look visually decent what you eat and the macros is key - probably more important than calories
February 1, 2013 1:52 AM
I wouldn't. You'll find it hold very little nutritional value. About 3 years ago I was gymming and living off take-aways / take-out. I saw zero results from the gymming and I was always hungry, as junkfood has almost no nutritional value.

I now eat right and gym and have seen amazing results the last 3 months. (I started gymming again 3 months ago).

Generally it is ok to have one Cheat meal a week - a reward to sticking to a healthy diet. The rest of the week I eat Steamed veggies with Rice and either a piece of steak, chicken or fish.

I strongly reccomend sticking to a healthy diet, you'll feel better.
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February 1, 2013 1:59 AM
Yes.
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February 1, 2013 2:01 AM
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Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

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And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his sh*t, his insides are going to go sh*t as well, and he won't be very healthy.

Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t smile


Agreed!
  36895407
February 1, 2013 2:01 AM
Also I think being able to eat fast food is a measure of how healthy the rest of your diet is - if you eat well a fast food burger will taste like the sugary disgustingness it is
February 1, 2013 2:09 AM
Yes you can, although you might feel more full eating something else. I have found if I really crave something, I should just have some of it, otherwise depriving yourself can lead to indulging at a later stage. So if its within my calories I can have it, or exercise more to make up for it, then yes I do have some treats.
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February 1, 2013 2:19 AM
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McDonalds goes straight to my boobs. And I don't need anymore of those! drinker


I'd gladly trade.



Me too lol
February 1, 2013 2:24 AM
Basically - for weight loss yes but it won't all come from fat and you'll likely feel like crap

For fat loss and looking good - IIFYM - so you couldn't just eat crap the whole time.

To get the most out of exercise then even IIFYM isn't ideal. You need to eat the right things and at the right time

e.g. sugary foods spike your insulin levels so your muscle cells take up the sugar and store it as glycogen. The problem is insulin also makes sugar be taken into fat cells and converted into fat which stints fat burning. One time when sugar works though, is straight after a workout. Those sugary foods get into your blood stream fast so your muscles can refuel.
February 1, 2013 2:27 AM
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Let me clarify something. I am studying to become a Registered Dietician now, so I am not giving advice with no background, just to make sure I don't seem naggy. Yes, it is okay to eat what you love. I enjoy food and have a lot of trouble controlling my diet, so I understand what it is like to crave certain types of food. Yes, you can eat McDonalds or even live on McDonalds and still lose weight. However, I have to disagree with the previous poster in a way. You will NOT be as healthy as if you ate fresh foods and kept all other parts of your lifestyle the same. Meaning, if you work out 1 hr a day, keep your health the same (drink/don't drink, etc) and were to decide between McDonalds & cookies everyday OR fresh fruits, vegetables & pasta, you would find a difference on your overall health and possibly, not surely, but possibly your life span. Many chain/fast food restaurants contain GMO's and unhealthy additives. Small choices in your diet can affect it more than you know. For example, eating margarine everyday will have different impacts than eating butter everyday. Some argue that this depends most on the trans fats (whichever has less is better) because some fats are worse than others. Some other people will argue that even if butter has more trans fat, it is better because it doesn't contain the unnatural ingredients found in a lot of margarine, which can be hard on the digestive track since they are not as natural. While McDonalds won't likely cause you to stay overweight if you eat your calories, it may have other negative effects on the body, even if you exercise routinely, because the additives and processing it goes through at not healthy either. I would say eat it, but don't eat it all the time and make sure to keep some fresh foods, like fruit & vegetables, in your diet. If you cut your favorite foods out completely, all at once, it may be difficult to stick to your new diet/lifestyle. If you ever decide to drop the less healthy foods, try to do so a little at a time.


Yes, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing does it.

People are arguing against eatinmg 100% junk food or 100% clean food. when most people are going to be somewher in the mioddle.

in reality , as long as the majority of your calories are nutritionally sound, and you can still fit it into your macros and calories, then eating the odd McDonalds isn't going to harm you.

80/20 is a great way to do it, as knowing you can still have the 20% in "junk" is what keeps many people on the straight and narrow.
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February 1, 2013 2:28 AM
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And to those that say a Big Mac has no nutritional value......wrong. It's not the best nutritional value, but it still has value.

Carbs 46
Fiber 3
Protein 25
Fat 29

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Macdonalds food is not healthy, it's not nutritional it's junk food. It's also addictive. It's better to make your own hamburger at home. Eat what you want of course, even a cardboard box would have "some" nutritional value too....
February 1, 2013 2:49 AM
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And to those that say a Big Mac has no nutritional value......wrong. It's not the best nutritional value, but it still has value.

Carbs 46
Fiber 3
Protein 25
Fat 29

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Macdonalds food is not healthy, it's not nutritional it's junk food. It's also addictive. It's better to make your own hamburger at home. Eat what you want of course, even a cardboard box would have "some" nutritional value too....


Really?

How much protein, carbs and fat are in a cardboard box.

I suppose eating the box is one way to get extra fibre.
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February 1, 2013 3:08 AM
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Ever since my college bio teacher told me margarine is one molecule away from being plastic, I haven't eaten it again lol


Take organic chemistry - it will make you ok with the whole "one molecule" thing again.


Pretty much. LoL. Hell, since salt is one molecule away from being a toxic element, it should be avoided at all costs, eh?


Yeah, and water is 1 atom different than rocket fuel (h2o2) :)


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February 1, 2013 4:40 AM
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And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his sh*t, his insides are going to go sh*t as well, and he won't be very healthy.

Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t smile


I'm afraid that this just isn't factually correct. I know it seems so on it's face, but there is no science to back it up. Just the opposite, really. All the data points to that if he loses weight, all of his insides will turn to gold, meaning all of his labs and vitals will improve significantly.

plus i don't think he's going to eat nothing but mcdonalds every day. i mean, there's got to be a taco bell around his house to mix that $hit up sometimes.


Hahahaha Taco Bell will f*ck him up foreal! tongue

And if it were true that him simply losing weight equals him being healthy then there would be no unhealthy thin people, and we all know that thats not the case.


The obvious counter to this is that if simply eating clean equaled being healthy then there would be no sick clean eaters. But they get sick and die at rates very similar to the rest of us
February 1, 2013 4:44 AM
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You will be skinny fat


Do I appear skinny fat to you? I eat 20/80. At best
February 1, 2013 4:45 AM
Yes you can as I have done just that and I am now at my goal weight :}, but one thing I would suggest is watch the sodium in things as when you eat too much sodium you can retain water weight
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February 1, 2013 4:46 AM
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Ever since my college bio teacher told me margarine is one molecule away from being plastic, I haven't eaten it again lol


Take organic chemistry - it will make you ok with the whole "one molecule" thing again.


Pretty much. LoL. Hell, since salt is one molecule away from being a toxic element, it should be avoided at all costs, eh?


Yeah, and water is 1 atom different than rocket fuel (h2o2) :)


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February 1, 2013 4:51 AM
Dang . . . no delete!
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  19773101
February 1, 2013 4:52 AM
I say yes, because I pretty much do/did.

I'm on maintenance phase now, but I eat what I crave and only eat a serving size of said item.. no more.
  6370231
February 1, 2013 4:55 AM
Yes you can eat whatever you want. I try to keep my diet at least somewhat balanced between carbs, fat, and protien. Eating 2 Big Macs a day will definitely overload on the fat portion of the diet.


Another problem that people typically have is they will eat a piece of cake (or something) that has 1200 calories then they will be hungry 20 minutes later. Best way to stay full longer is to eat more fiber like fruits and vegetables. You can eat quite a lot of them and still have a very low calorie count.

I would also recommend eating small meals more often. It takes awhile for the brain to recognize that you are full, so eating many small meals will help you eat less because you just won't feel hungry.
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