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February 2, 2013 7:53 AM
I didn't go through all the posts, and while I don't agree with NOT tipping, the waitress did post someones personal & banking info for all to see.

Is this the reason for being fired?
February 2, 2013 7:55 AM
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Now, I'll be rethinking leaving it on the table, especially if my receipt with a zero tip has a chance of showing up on the Internet.


That's only if you leave a sh#tty message on your receipt.


When I leave a cash tip, I always write "CASH" in the tip line on the credit card slip. I'm not leaving them nothing, but I also know kids from college who would change amounts in the tip line after customers left. It's just easier to write "CASH" and then leave at least 20% on the table or hand it to them directly and tell them to have a nice night.
February 2, 2013 7:56 AM
They are both wrong, the waitress and the pastor.
The waitress is justified in being disgusted but posting it on Facebook violates serious privacy issues, PLUS it makes her look like a petulant child and a real jerk.

The pastor is just a nasty customer. It happens, there are jerks everywhere. That does not make it right to post this online.

I would have fired the waitress and would have also considered legal action since she represented my business while violating a customer's privacy.
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February 2, 2013 7:59 AM
I don't think the receipt said anything about making a comment about god.... so she could share if he was going to be an ass...... she didnt deserve to be fired... then again if I was serving assholes like that, I wouldnt want to work with those customers.... its a tip- based on customer service.. God gave the waitress life.... the waitress is not obligated to pass over her pay cheque to god for living....shame on the pastor.....
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February 2, 2013 8:01 AM
The church makes their money from donations/tips, so you would think a pastor would understand how this person makes a living and tip her appropriately for her service.

But waitresses know just like I knew when I delivered pizzas that some customers are never going to tip you no matter what. It could be Christmas and they just hit the lottery and they still wouldn't tip.
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February 2, 2013 8:02 AM
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what has the waitress done to keep her job?

so if i'm stepping out on my girl, is she going to post that on her facebook page too? if i meeting with a prospective employer and considering leaving my job, will she put that on twitter? not sure what the US gov't has to do with it. no one is saying to prosecute her. but if i own the joint i don't employ people that embarrass my customers


I get your point, however there is a line to be drawn. Granted, the business I am in is much different than food service, but still, I don't want a customer who intentionally causes anguish to my staff members either.


Anguish? Please. I run a business, without my clients/customers I couldn't pay for my home and my bills. The waitress signed on to deal with good tippers and bad tippers when she took the job. I worked in the service industry while I was in University and no, it isn't easy but have a little perspective FFS! Do your job badly - you get fired, represent the company badly you get fired. End of.

ETA: It is TOTALLY up to the pastor whether they want to tip or not. Perhaps the waitress had a bad attitude. Three sides to every story.
Edited by ShreddedTweet On February 2, 2013 8:03 AM
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February 2, 2013 9:30 AM
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What a BS excuse for being cheap.

"I give god 10%"???? What the hell does that mean? What currency does your myth accept?

I hope everyone remembers this when donation, or pass the plate time comes...I'd take change for a dollar.

Scumbag pastor!

And the restaurant that fired her should be sued to the hilt!


Totally agreed!

Someone also mentioned it was the tightwad god pushing pastors choice to tip or not.....BS! Mandatory gratuity to eat in a restaurant when your bill is a certain amount means mandatory period. Who cares is she is a "woman of so called god" doesn't stop her from raking in the dough come Sunday morning but she can't pay someone who waited on her and probably had to listen to a ton of crap the entire time. One thing I will always stand by and that is don't mess with the people that handle your food. I have respect for the men and women that work in the food service industry they are usually overworked over stressed and underpaid for what they have to deal with. I mean these people essentially have to kiss the a$$e$ of their customers no matter what and that is sad. My sis told off a customer when she failed to tip her on a nice size tab and I couldn't have been more proud because self respect and taking up for yourself when being mistreated rates above getting fired from a job that can be replaced. If I was that waitress I would have laughed in her face and sent her a book on evolution to wake her cheap ass up. No way would I have tolerated that pastors blatant disrespect and they wouldn't have to worry about firing me because I would have quit then and there. Why is it some super religious people are some of the most horrible people alive? Catholic priests and their molestation of young boys for example?
February 3, 2013 9:09 AM
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People shouldn't have to leave a bloody tip if they don't want to!!!!


Servers DEPEND on tips. They make only 4.67 an hour. Work 40 hrs in 2 weeks. Because it's not like Shifts are ALWAYS 8 hrs long. And you don't ALWAYS work 5 days a week. Please tell me you can live off 300 a month.


I wouldn't accept a job that couldn't provide me with enough income....simple.


I'm glad you are in a position where you can make such a choice. I have a Bachelor's and work at the restaurant in question. I just applied for a "real job" but will continue working there for extra money. Are you not aware that unemployment is still very high??

Don't know if anyone's seen this yet. People are doing sort of a counter movement. I don't care for the anti religion feel to it, but it's interesting.

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Edit: Crap, stupid size issue. There's an Applebee's receipt next to it that says "I give God 0% so you get 28%" with the tip.


I have very little knowledge of unemployment rates in the USA as I am British and currently live in South East Asia. I am also glad that I am in such a position, it hasn't always been the case, after I left University with my degree, I worked in a 1970's themed nightclub. Fortunately, I didn't stay there too long smile

(I left University in 2002)
Edited by SwimFan1981 On February 3, 2013 9:11 AM
February 3, 2013 9:12 AM
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what has the waitress done to keep her job?

so if i'm stepping out on my girl, is she going to post that on her facebook page too? if i meeting with a prospective employer and considering leaving my job, will she put that on twitter? not sure what the US gov't has to do with it. no one is saying to prosecute her. but if i own the joint i don't employ people that embarrass my customers


I get your point, however there is a line to be drawn. Granted, the business I am in is much different than food service, but still, I don't want a customer who intentionally causes anguish to my staff members either.


Anguish? Please. I run a business, without my clients/customers I couldn't pay for my home and my bills. The waitress signed on to deal with good tippers and bad tippers when she took the job. I worked in the service industry while I was in University and no, it isn't easy but have a little perspective FFS! Do your job badly - you get fired, represent the company badly you get fired. End of.

ETA: It is TOTALLY up to the pastor whether they want to tip or not. Perhaps the waitress had a bad attitude. Three sides to every story.


I wasn't talking about the lack of tipping. I was talking about the ****ty note written on there. Getting stiffed is nothing new to most people. Getting a written lecture based on God could piss some people off.
February 3, 2013 9:30 AM
I'm sure it's been posted on here already, but we have a completely different mentality in England.
The only time I tip anyone is if I have been given exceptional service. Employers offering such low wages that tips are expected is a ridiculous way of operating a business. If I call a plumber out and get something repaired, I'm not going to give him a tip, just his rate and materials for doing his job. Why would I tip someone at a restaurant for doing their job satisfactorily?
February 3, 2013 9:36 AM
Fired, yes... Only because she didn't black out that persons signature though....

Other than that, more power to her for posting that receipt.
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February 3, 2013 9:37 AM
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what has the waitress done to keep her job?

so if i'm stepping out on my girl, is she going to post that on her facebook page too? if i meeting with a prospective employer and considering leaving my job, will she put that on twitter? not sure what the US gov't has to do with it. no one is saying to prosecute her. but if i own the joint i don't employ people that embarrass my customers


I get your point, however there is a line to be drawn. Granted, the business I am in is much different than food service, but still, I don't want a customer who intentionally causes anguish to my staff members either.


Anguish? Please. I run a business, without my clients/customers I couldn't pay for my home and my bills. The waitress signed on to deal with good tippers and bad tippers when she took the job. I worked in the service industry while I was in University and no, it isn't easy but have a little perspective FFS! Do your job badly - you get fired, represent the company badly you get fired. End of.




I wasn't talking about the lack of tipping. I was talking about the ****ty note written on there. Getting stiffed is nothing new to most people. Getting a written lecture based on God could piss some people off.


But 'ANGUISH'??? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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February 3, 2013 9:38 AM
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I'm sure it's been posted on here already, but we have a completely different mentality in England.
The only time I tip anyone is if I have been given exceptional service. Employers offering such low wages that tips are expected is a ridiculous way of operating a business. If I call a plumber out and get something repaired, I'm not going to give him a tip, just his rate and materials for doing his job. Why would I tip someone at a restaurant for doing their job satisfactorily?


Exactly the same here in Ireland, not everyone deserves a tip!
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February 3, 2013 9:39 AM
The person's name is clearly legible. It should have been blacked out. Whether he's right or wrong isn't the point, bottom line. The waitress clearly violated a privacy issue.
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February 3, 2013 9:40 AM
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It was in poor taste on both ends. As a Christian, the pastor's actions disgust and repulse me (wish I could come up with a stronger word). BUT it was probably in poor taste to post it online to a PUBLIC site-- it's not even like it was the waitress' private Facebook page, it was a public site...NOT the best idea.

But, wow...not tipping? Who cares what you drop in the offering basket?


Repugnant... that is a word that might be accurate. The pastors actions are repugnant.

The waitresses actions are also not conducive to keeping a job. If I tell people whats going on at my job I can get fired.
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February 3, 2013 9:45 AM
Just because it says 0 on the repiept doesnt mean that they didnt leave a cash tip. All I see is a picture and not the whole story, but leaving notes on the reciept is ok as far as being a smiley face which i typically see most often.
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February 3, 2013 9:47 AM
I believe the pastor was saying she gives 10% to god (possibly by tithing?), however, pastors usually get free housing from their church. Watresses don't get that big perk, their income in the US depends on tips. And, this pastor doesn't seem to be "filled with Christian charity"...perhaps she should stay home and make a dinner of "Humble Pie" for herself!
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February 3, 2013 9:48 AM
I think it should be LAW that everyone works in the service industry at sometime in their lives! The good pastor obviously never has. Maybe then he would appreciate what your average waitress/waiter does for such a low wage! However.... I don't agree that tipping is mandatory in your bill. My reason for that is I don't like the idea of management taking a cut or that I cannot choose to tip appropriate to the service I get. btw I work in the service industry .
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February 3, 2013 9:57 AM
Posting the receipt is fine as long as you also remove all personal information regarding the person who left the receipt. I think it's unfortunate that it happens to be a pastor, because lots of people (regardless of faith, position, or parental status) are generous and lots of people (regardless of faith, position, or parental status) are dillholes.
February 3, 2013 10:07 AM
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I'm sure it's been posted on here already, but we have a completely different mentality in England.
The only time I tip anyone is if I have been given exceptional service. Employers offering such low wages that tips are expected is a ridiculous way of operating a business. If I call a plumber out and get something repaired, I'm not going to give him a tip, just his rate and materials for doing his job. Why would I tip someone at a restaurant for doing their job satisfactorily?


It's not a decision by employers, it is part of the US minimum wage standard.
February 3, 2013 10:11 AM
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I'm sure it's been posted on here already, but we have a completely different mentality in England.
The only time I tip anyone is if I have been given exceptional service. Employers offering such low wages that tips are expected is a ridiculous way of operating a business. If I call a plumber out and get something repaired, I'm not going to give him a tip, just his rate and materials for doing his job. Why would I tip someone at a restaurant for doing their job satisfactorily?


It's not a decision by employers, it is part of the US minimum wage standard.


It's a disgrace is what it is, what they pay waitresses in the US is ridiculous and it's legal, it's endorsed by your government. We have a much better system when it comes to that. Sort it out, it'll make threads like this defunct and we won't have to read through 18 pages of this stuff.
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February 3, 2013 10:32 AM
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I'm sure it's been posted on here already, but we have a completely different mentality in England.
The only time I tip anyone is if I have been given exceptional service. Employers offering such low wages that tips are expected is a ridiculous way of operating a business. If I call a plumber out and get something repaired, I'm not going to give him a tip, just his rate and materials for doing his job. Why would I tip someone at a restaurant for doing their job satisfactorily?


It's not a decision by employers, it is part of the US minimum wage standard.


It's a disgrace is what it is, what they pay waitresses in the US is ridiculous and it's legal, it's endorsed by your government. We have a much better system when it comes to that. Sort it out, it'll make threads like this defunct and we won't have to read through 18 pages of this stuff.


As we know though, that's far too much common sense! Lol

There should be a minimum wage based on national average cost to live a satisfactory lifestyle regardless of tips. All the tip based system does is leave people working their arsed off for little to no guarantee of even making it through the week, and fosters little to no reason for staff to go that extra mile and make something of themseleves in a service industry environment. I wonder what the turn over rate is for waiting staff in the US?
February 4, 2013 10:53 PM
One more comment about this topic.....lol
I was a waitress for years and for the most part, I loved it. I went over and above my job duties to make sure the customers were happy. It doesn't matter if the food is great, if service sucks, people will not come back. I made a lot of money and made a lot of friends with customers. I worked with some LAZY waitresses ; sometimes THEIR tables would tip me because they were no where to be found and I ended up doing everything for them. I also have not a left a tip several times. I know what it is to give great service and i expect that when I go out. That is your job. With the exception of a few jerks who wouldn't tip regardless if you were great or not, I never got stiffed, or lousy tips. So, who knows what kind of waitress she was? That pastor sounds like a jerk but there is always another side. The only reason I left waitressing was because of the bosses, not the customers.
Edited by BrenWOW On February 4, 2013 10:55 PM
February 8, 2013 12:38 PM
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February 8, 2013 1:01 PM
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TL;DR but what I did read has lead me to be further convinced the waitress is in the wrong. If the name is recognizable, it shouldn't be posted online. End of story.
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