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January 31, 2013 8:02 AM
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If your fitness instructor didn't tell you how many calories it burned over 48hours, what good did he do you?
Would it matter to you if the number was in the 10's rather than the 100's ?


Number doesn't matter to me.
She was sharing the different benefits from different types of exercise.
Cardio burns more initially.
I do the two consecutively when I work out so in my mind I am getting the benefits of both.
Not here to argue, just add my two cents smile

There is no clear data on this but there is some EPOC effect. 48 hours is likely stretching it though. Maybe 18 to 24 hours on a diminishing curve but not likely 48.
January 31, 2013 8:03 AM
Lifting weights gives you an increase in burned calories after your workout which cardio does not. This happens bc your body is trying to repair your muscles. I'd say the rough % is 15-30% burned. So if you burn 300 calories lifting weights you'd additionally burn 60 or so calories. None of this is exact and it varies based upon intensity of working out which is why you want to mix weight lifting and cardio.
  20355678
January 31, 2013 8:08 AM
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If your fitness instructor didn't tell you how many calories it burned over 48hours, what good did he do you?
Would it matter to you if the number was in the 10's rather than the 100's ?


Number doesn't matter to me.
She was sharing the different benefits from different types of exercise.
Cardio burns more initially.
I do the two consecutively when I work out so in my mind I am getting the benefits of both.
Not here to argue, just add my two cents smile

There is no clear data on this but there is some EPOC effect. 48 hours is likely stretching it though. Maybe 18 to 24 hours on a diminishing curve but not likely 48.


EPOC?
  4199174
January 31, 2013 8:11 AM
in layman's terms its the after burn of a workout

basically its the body trying to re-balance itself back to its state before a workout
  20355678
January 31, 2013 8:15 AM
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in layman's terms its the after burn of a workout

basically its the body trying to re-balance itself back to its state before a workout


Buring energy to re-build muscle or to re-balance or both?
  4199174
January 31, 2013 8:16 AM
no
  3622766
January 31, 2013 8:16 AM
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I don't know, but the pointers on my "Your Shape: Fitness Evolved" Xbox game (LOL) say that dieters who incorporate strength training into their workouts typically lose 40 percent more fat than those who don't.


I have read that losing weight without strength training will result in ratio loss of about 50% body fat 50% muscle mass.

Whereas weight loss with strength training will result in ratio loss of about 90% body fat and 10% muscle mass. This is probably where the figure of 40% more body fat comes from - still roughly same amount of loss, its the ratio of that loss.
January 31, 2013 8:17 AM
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Lifting most certainly burns calories, but it's difficult to guage how many. There are so many variable that need to be looked at when it comes to lifting that can affect caloric expenditure. Your intensity, your volume, your metabolic rate, and the list goes on and on. I'd say a more accurate way is the buy some sort of heart rate monitor that gives you an estimate on calories burned; there are many on the market right now.


HRM's are not accurate for lifting because there isn't a significant HR increase.


Not true at all. Get a better hrm with a higher sample rate.
  1094402
January 31, 2013 8:18 AM
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no


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  4199174
January 31, 2013 8:18 AM
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I'd think it did, but when I added it to my exercise diary, MFP doesn't add those calories burned to my daily goals. Anyone know why? Does it just not burn enough?


I burn close to 600 calories from strength training alone each time I work out (according to my HRM). If you do it at a good pace, you'll burn calories.
  5396342
January 31, 2013 8:20 AM
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The idea of strength training isn't to get calorie burns from the actual lifting but to build muscle which in turn burns more in just every day life. Most strength training doesn't raise your heart rate enough to cause a lot of calorie burn like cardio does at the time of the activity.


This. This is my understanding as well.
  33678285
January 31, 2013 8:22 AM
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The idea of strength training isn't to get calorie burns from the actual lifting but to build muscle which in turn burns more in just every day life. Most strength training doesn't raise your heart rate enough to cause a lot of calorie burn like cardio does at the time of the activity.


Odd... every time I do strength training, my heart rate increases pretty significantly. For a long time, all I did for my workouts was strength training and that's when I lost most of my weight. I've only added cardio to enhance the burn and maintenance of my current weight.
  5396342
January 31, 2013 8:22 AM
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Lifting most certainly burns calories, but it's difficult to guage how many. There are so many variable that need to be looked at when it comes to lifting that can affect caloric expenditure. Your intensity, your volume, your metabolic rate, and the list goes on and on. I'd say a more accurate way is the buy some sort of heart rate monitor that gives you an estimate on calories burned; there are many on the market right now.


HRM's are not accurate for lifting because there isn't a significant HR increase.


Not true at all. Get a better hrm with a higher sample rate.


What exactly do you mean? How would this make a difference when HRMs are designed to measure aerobic activities and strength training is an anaerobic activity using different energy systems?
January 31, 2013 8:24 AM
If you are not burning calories while lifting weights then you are NOT doing it right ! sheesh.....

It's not about taking 3 min breaks inbetween sets.... it's about sweating and groaning and working your a$$ off, and if that does not burn calories.....NUTHIN does !
  15765231
January 31, 2013 8:24 AM
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I'd think it did, but when I added it to my exercise diary, MFP doesn't add those calories burned to my daily goals. Anyone know why? Does it just not burn enough?


I burn close to 600 calories from strength training alone each time I work out (according to my HRM). If you do it at a good pace, you'll burn calories.


As has been pointed out, HRM's are not at all accurate for strength training. They are designed for moderate intensity steady state cardio.
January 31, 2013 8:26 AM
Here's an excellent article on weightlifting and calories: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2010/02/01/what-burns-more-calories-cardio-intervals-or-weight-training/
Basically, lifting burns calories during and after. Also worth noting is that cardio is the least efficient method for losing body fat.
January 31, 2013 8:27 AM
QUOTE:

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If your fitness instructor didn't tell you how many calories it burned over 48hours, what good did he do you?
Would it matter to you if the number was in the 10's rather than the 100's ?


Number doesn't matter to me.
She was sharing the different benefits from different types of exercise.
Cardio burns more initially.
I do the two consecutively when I work out so in my mind I am getting the benefits of both.
Not here to argue, just add my two cents smile

There is no clear data on this but there is some EPOC effect. 48 hours is likely stretching it though. Maybe 18 to 24 hours on a diminishing curve but not likely 48.


EPOC?


Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption or as another poster stated, the afterburn effect where you keep burning calories above your normal rate for some period after your workout.
January 31, 2013 8:29 AM
QUOTE:

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If your fitness instructor didn't tell you how many calories it burned over 48hours, what good did he do you?
Would it matter to you if the number was in the 10's rather than the 100's ?


Number doesn't matter to me.
She was sharing the different benefits from different types of exercise.
Cardio burns more initially.
I do the two consecutively when I work out so in my mind I am getting the benefits of both.
Not here to argue, just add my two cents smile

There is no clear data on this but there is some EPOC effect. 48 hours is likely stretching it though. Maybe 18 to 24 hours on a diminishing curve but not likely 48.


EPOC?


Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption or as another poster stated, the afterburn effect where you keep burning calories above your normal rate for some period after your workout.


Thank you
  4199174
January 31, 2013 8:30 AM
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I'd think it did, but when I added it to my exercise diary, MFP doesn't add those calories burned to my daily goals. Anyone know why? Does it just not burn enough?


I burn close to 600 calories from strength training alone each time I work out (according to my HRM). If you do it at a good pace, you'll burn calories.


Have you read any of this thread? HRMs are not reliable measures for calorie burn when strength training.
January 31, 2013 8:30 AM
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If your fitness instructor didn't tell you how many calories it burned over 48hours, what good did he do you?
Would it matter to you if the number was in the 10's rather than the 100's ?


Number doesn't matter to me.
She was sharing the different benefits from different types of exercise.
Cardio burns more initially.
I do the two consecutively when I work out so in my mind I am getting the benefits of both.
Not here to argue, just add my two cents smile

There is no clear data on this but there is some EPOC effect. 48 hours is likely stretching it though. Maybe 18 to 24 hours on a diminishing curve but not likely 48.


EPOC?


Excess Post-exercise Oxygen Consumption or as another poster stated, the afterburn effect where you keep burning calories above your normal rate for some period after your workout.


Thank you


Quite welcome! flowerforyou
January 31, 2013 8:32 AM
I have a 30 second break between reps, and then I write it down as circuit training... However, I write down that I did half the time I actually did, because I think that MFP over estimates. I found that if I didnt eat back those calories, I spent the whole rest of day craving food, even had a blacking out session.... I think each person has to work out for themselves how and what they need...
January 31, 2013 8:32 AM
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If you are not burning calories while lifting weights then you are NOT doing it right ! sheesh.....

It's not about taking 3 min breaks inbetween sets.... it's about sweating and groaning and working your a$$ off, and if that does not burn calories.....NUTHIN does !


Wrong. heavy lifting requires fairly significant rest between sets. ~2mins seems to be a generally accepted number for rest period when lifting heavy. I might even go so far as to say if you are lifting and don't need at least 1 minute of rest time, YOU aren't doing it right.

Additionally, sweating and heavy breathing doesn't equal calorie burn. It's just an indicator that you are pushing yourself beyond your current fitness level.
Edited by jacksonpt On January 31, 2013 8:33 AM
January 31, 2013 8:34 AM
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I have a 30 second break between reps, and then I write it down as circuit training... However, I write down that I did half the time I actually did, because I think that MFP over estimates. I found that if I didnt eat back those calories, I spent the whole rest of day craving food, even had a blacking out session.... I think each person has to work out for themselves how and what they need...


Sounds like you've found a good balance with all the estimating we do... nice job! It's harder than a lot of people think.
January 31, 2013 8:34 AM
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If you are not burning calories while lifting weights then you are NOT doing it right ! sheesh.....

It's not about taking 3 min breaks inbetween sets.... it's about sweating and groaning and working your a$$ off, and if that does not burn calories.....NUTHIN does !


Wrong. heavy lifting requires fairly significant rest between sets. ~2mins seems to be a generally accepted number for rest period when lifting heavy. I might even go so far as to say if you are lifting and don't need at least 1 minute of rest time, YOU aren't doing it right.

Additionally, sweating and heavy breathing doesn't equal calorie burn. It's just an indicator that you are pushing yourself beyond your current fitness level.


Totally correct. You want between 2 and 5 minutes between sets for the ATP-PC energy system to recover in order to have max energy for the next set.
January 31, 2013 8:36 AM
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I'd think it did, but when I added it to my exercise diary, MFP doesn't add those calories burned to my daily goals. Anyone know why? Does it just not burn enough?

The strength training section on your exercise diary is just a memo entry, for you to track what you do. If you want to get credit for calorie burning go to the cardiovascular section and search on resistance training.
Edited by Hadabetter On January 31, 2013 8:46 AM

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