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January 25, 2013 5:15 PM
Currently if you hit the Complete This Entry button, a message appears that sometimes includes the message "and was under her calorie goal" if they ate less then the calorie limit given. At first I thought that the point was to eat less than your limit, but then when I went down to a 1200 calorie menu, I noticed that the message I got yelled at me if I went under 1200 because it wasn't safe, but still posted to everyone else that I was under my goal. The message is confusing. Is the point to eat all my calorie limit or to be under goal? And it's definitely not safe as I see some people treating it as a competition to see how much under they can get.

So rather than praising people for being under goal, why not instead praise when they get within, say, 50 calories of their goal, either over or under? This way the message is to stick close to the goal rather than a competition to eat as little as possible.
  8786825
January 25, 2013 5:19 PM
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Currently if you hit the Complete This Entry button, a message appears that sometimes includes the message "and was under her calorie goal" if they ate less then the calorie limit given. At first I thought that the point was to eat less than your limit, but then when I went down to a 1200 calorie menu, I noticed that the message I got yelled at me if I went under 1200 because it wasn't safe, but still posted to everyone else that I was under my goal. The message is confusing. Is the point to eat all my calorie limit or to be under goal? And it's definitely not safe as I see some people treating it as a competition to see how much under they can get.

So rather than praising people for being under goal, why not instead praise when they get within, say, 50 calories of their goal, either over or under? This way the message is to stick close to the goal rather than a competition to eat as little as possible.


I agree! Sometimes I read them and some don't even record 1000 amd people say "good job" They are starving themselves.
  28020204
January 25, 2013 5:26 PM
Yep, it makes me so sad. I've had to delete people who are only eating 300 calories because nothing I say will make them change and it is really depressing. I cheer when people are close to their goal. I like to see people eating.
January 25, 2013 5:36 PM
I agree. I had a friend who was netting just over 100 calories one day (I know she does work nights, so her "days" may not be normal) but everyone was saying good job and great day and I was really worried about her! To start out, MFP has me at 1900 calories but I struggle to even eat my goal, so I am constantly under calories. I find myself averaging between 1300-1600 net calories right now. I don't think it's a competition, but I do agree that some people look at it as one. One day this last week I wasn't all that hungry and after dinner, I was still 950 calories under goal. My boyfriend (whose dad is an athletic trainer) told me 500 calories under goal was okay, so I made myself a night time snack just so I wouldn't feel so under.
  35281250
January 25, 2013 5:42 PM
Yes! Or even, "was within x% of target calories"
  6560859
January 25, 2013 5:46 PM
I think that is a wonderful suggestion!
  23727847
January 25, 2013 5:47 PM
Sometimes I think that people don't look at the total calories injested, but instead just congratulate them on being under their goal. I think that we praise this because it seems like they have accomplished a goal - I admit that I have done this. From now on I will be paying closer attention to the total calories consumed. I don't want to encourage unhealthy eating habits. Has anyone ever met there daily goal exactly?
  9656004
January 25, 2013 5:50 PM
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Yes! Or even, "was within x% of target calories"


flowerforyou
  8786825
January 25, 2013 5:52 PM
Totally!! But I agree that when we set our goals and we have these limits it's for a good reason and a good idea to stary as close to goal/target as possible. Results, energy, health... whether we are here to lose, gain or build.

Personally, I try to eat at my limit everyday or close to it... today I was way under and I was disappointed. It's not cause I was trying to be under... it's cause I really had trouble finding the time to eat and the energy to make something to eat.

I have found that if I eat too low I'm not as successful. I totally hear what you are saying... I'm glad most of my friends eat right around goal and they keep their meals so varied. It's nice to be able to see other people's diary's too cause it gives me examples of what I could be doing and ideas on new foods to incorporate.

Although it is scary to put it all out there and make your diary viewable, I think it's totally worth it as long as you are honest and logging everything. Even if you go over or under you can go back and see what you could have done better for the next day.
January 25, 2013 6:15 PM
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Totally!! But I agree that when we set our goals and we have these limits it's for a good reason and a good idea to stary as close to goal/target as possible. Results, energy, health... whether we are here to lose, gain or build.

Personally, I try to eat at my limit everyday or close to it... today I was way under and I was disappointed. It's not cause I was trying to be under... it's cause I really had trouble finding the time to eat and the energy to make something to eat.

I have found that if I eat too low I'm not as successful. I totally hear what you are saying... I'm glad most of my friends eat right around goal and they keep their meals so varied. It's nice to be able to see other people's diary's too cause it gives me examples of what I could be doing and ideas on new foods to incorporate.

Although it is scary to put it all out there and make your diary viewable, I think it's totally worth it as long as you are honest and logging everything. Even if you go over or under you can go back and see what you could have done better for the next day.



I haven't had the nerve to make my diary viewable yet because I am still working on eating better but you are right: It is nice to see what other people are eating and what you can incorporate into your own meals. I noticed a lot of people are drinking protein shakes in the morning, which is something I will be looking into soon :)
  35281250
January 25, 2013 6:28 PM
I absolutely agree! Not all of us like to eat the same things every day and struggle to eat close to goal. Some days we'll be over, some days under, but I think the idea to be close to goal is a good one. I like the idea of Lynda was within x% of her calorie goal (though not on the days I'm 200%!! Thankfully not often). If you eat too little, starvation mode is an option that your body might go for and that's not going to do you any favours -- it'll hang on to every bit of fat it can, to the expense of muscle and that is not going to help you.

Interestingly I saw this article last week:
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Alternating+fasting+with+feasting+best+lose+weight+study+finds/7818567/story.html

From the article this seemed most salient to this discussion:

“There’s an awful lot of people trying to figure out how to get people to lose weight,” he said. “The bottom line is that sustained weight loss is very, very difficult to achieve. Simple caloric restriction doesn’t seem to generate long-term effects.”

“I’m not an expert in the treatment of obesity, because it’s kind of opposed to what I do for a living,” Woodside said. “But the literature suggests slower weight loss is more likely to be associated with a longer duration of weight loss.

And don't we all want to be doing this for the last time?
  31626991
January 25, 2013 6:35 PM
I think we should definitely try to reach our calories limit for each day, but what if we don't feel hungry to reach the rest of the calories. There are days when I really crave more calories and others when I don't. This is my first week so I don't really know how my future will be, but for now that's what is happening to me. I do agree that people shouldn't feel like it's a competition.
  35841760
January 29, 2013 6:49 PM
I try to reach my NET goal but it hardly happens. I don't stay hungry alot anymore. Maybe its cause I started adding in more veggies and uping my fiber intake. I drink 8+ a water a day and I make sure I drink my 8cups before I have another type of drink. If you look at my diary now, my net calories is low, but I'm not hungry at all and I'm losing 1-1.5lbs a week.

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