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January 8, 2013 1:06 PM
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Everything in moderation...even the *bad* stuff.

If you're an ultra-athlete I can see the danger of incorporating fast foods (or comfort food of some type) into your diet


Michael Phelps: Breakfast: Three fried-egg sandwiches loaded with cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, fried onions and mayonnaise. Two cups of coffee. One five-egg omelet. One bowl of grits. Three slices of French toast topped with powdered sugar. Three chocolate-chip pancakes. Lunch: One pound of enriched pasta. Two large ham and cheese sandwiches with mayo on white bread. Energy drinks packing 1,000 calories. Dinner: One pound of pasta. An entire pizza. More energy drinks.

So, nah, even ultra-athletes just make sure it fits their macros :-D


Or look at what some of the ultramarathon runners are eating in the middle of 100 mile races. Pizzas, tacos, Mountain Dew, hamburgers, etc. But they aren't fit or anything.


Yah, refined, enriched carbs sure because they digest faster than whole grains.


WTF does that have to do with your "if you eat fast food you're fat and unhealthy" argument?


because you guys are saying. oh look at michael phelps he eats pizza and he has results bla bla bla


That was me. Since when are burgers refined carbs?
Or are you selectively cherry picking.

And on a serious note, and for the fun of your answer.... You do know that fat is an essential nutrient? Are you getting enough?


absolutely. avocados, fish oil, olive oil almonds ect... no saturated fats


So, saturated fat is bad for you?
  18358448
January 8, 2013 1:06 PM
Take a shower and then take a dump!
January 8, 2013 1:06 PM
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And on a serious note, and for the fun of your answer.... You do know that fat is an essential nutrient? Are you getting enough?


absolutely. avocados, fish oil, olive oil almonds ect... no saturated fats


That explains much. Saturated fats are necessary for proper brain function.

Please excuse this guy's idiocy, everyone. It's caused by improper nutrition. He's not responsible.
  914777
January 8, 2013 1:07 PM
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Take a shower and then take a dump!


Winner!
  18358448
January 8, 2013 1:07 PM
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Any ideas on what to eat after a workout so I don't turn in to an arrogant douche?

Anyone?


The chic next door?
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January 8, 2013 1:07 PM
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How many times have you seen people go to the gym and work their asses off... only to stop at Wendy's or Mcdonald's after their workouts. Come on people, your body wants clean food! Or how many times have you heard "I'm not seeing any results" I ask what they had to eat for lunch and they say "I had to run to Arbys because I didn't bring my lunch."

You are what you eat! Sorry just venting a little lol.


Here's my reply, but I'll be the first to admit that I haven't read all 18 pages so perhaps some of this bears repeating.

Before I get into this, this is nothing personal towards the OP and I'm going on a tangent here:

If you're saying that people who casually exercise and use that as an excuse to go overeat a bunch of nutrient sparse foods thinking that their sub-par exercise justifies having a sub-par diet, then I would absolutely agree with your premise.

If you're saying that the individual food sources that you choose significantly matter towards your physique once macronutrient and micronutrient sufficiency are met (<-- key statement), then I would absolutely disagree with you and suggest that your results weren't due to the supposed cleanliness of your food, they were due to your training and your total nutrient intake.

Total nutrient intake is obviously composed of your individual food choices but as long as you are able to sufficiently nourish yourself, and as long as you're able to meet macronutrient demands for your body composition/training goals, then you've got an awful lot of leeway in selecting food items and "cleanliness" is certainly not a factor in the least.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/



As an aside: Regarding the whole physique=knowledge thing, and we see it especially in juiced individuals (not saying this about the OP specifically). You get someone who is obviously jacked and lean, and they think they know what they're talking because:

I'm big and lean ---> I eat these foods ----> Therefore my results are due to these foods. (And you can replace food with just about anything else that gets discussed).

This is just crap logic.

I'm going to make a bold statement. You know who knows more than anyone on this site?
This guy:
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Guess what? I'm going to wager that I'm more muscular and leaner than he is. I am going to wager that he knows WAAAAAAAAAAAY more than I do about fitness/nutrition. He's one of the best in the field.

So you can't necessarily equate physique to knowledge. That's a mistake and it's certainly not a justification for what sometimes can be crappy broscience.
January 8, 2013 1:07 PM
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I don't think it's my business what other people eat. I have a hard enough time keeping up with what I'm eating!


Exactly! What and how another person meets or sets their requirements is based soley on their very own long term resutls. After a rigorous workout, the last thing that I am thinking about is eating McDs, but to each is own. I am working to improve me. happy
January 8, 2013 1:07 PM
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Any ideas on what to eat after a workout so I don't turn in to an arrogant douche?

Anyone?


Snicker
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January 8, 2013 1:08 PM
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I feel like I've sinned or done something horribly wrong if I workout and then go to fast food.


Agreed. I don't do fast "food" Lol
January 8, 2013 1:08 PM
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I don't make a habit of following random people home from the gym, so I have no idea what they eat.


I agree LOL
  33766772
January 8, 2013 1:08 PM
What I see more often than that, is people who judge others for doing things they "feel' they are better than.

I can understand if someone wants to work their butt off so they can enjoy McD's or BK.

Running for 40 miunutes then gettting a BigMac is much better than just getting a BigMac.

I'm glad you shared your high horse though, I bet it made a bunch of people feel better about themselves.
Edited by cdpark617 On January 8, 2013 1:09 PM
January 8, 2013 1:08 PM
I'm getting the last word in!


Tacos.
January 8, 2013 1:09 PM
wasn't serious! I love me some beef..
Edited by FiveElevenClimb On January 8, 2013 1:11 PM
January 8, 2013 1:09 PM
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How many times have you seen people go to the gym and work their asses off... only to stop at Wendy's or Mcdonald's after their workouts. Come on people, your body wants clean food! Or how many times have you heard "I'm not seeing any results" I ask what they had to eat for lunch and they say "I had to run to Arbys because I didn't bring my lunch."

You are what you eat! Sorry just venting a little lol.

Thanks for your vent.
Luckily your opinion is just that, an opinion.
If someone works their ASS off and wants to treat themselves to a junk food meal for the day, LET THEM. I mean dont get me wrong if they are doing this every day then complaining then i guess that is a problem. however on occasion I see nothing wrong with this and my body proves that. We dont have to be perfect. We just need to be healthy.
January 8, 2013 1:09 PM
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I'm getting the last word in!


Tacos.


My place or yours wink
  18358448
January 8, 2013 1:09 PM
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For me, I have greater success when I work "non-clean" food into my diet.


WHAT??? Seriously????
  3464403
January 8, 2013 1:10 PM
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I'm getting the last word in!


Tacos.


My place or yours wink


When the question is "tacos" the answer is always yours.
January 8, 2013 1:10 PM
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I'm getting the last word in!


Tacos.


My place or yours wink


When the question is "tacos" the answer is always yours.


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  18358448
January 8, 2013 1:11 PM
I see this all the time.
It's not something I allow to bother me too much, especially since IT'S ME DOING IT laugh
Seriously, my results have been stellar, and I eat clean 70% of the time.
Nutrition can indeed wreck progress, but let's not get Nazi about it.
January 8, 2013 1:11 PM
My interpretation of the original post is that it is a judgement. I am not an expert on nutrition, fitness or psychology, in fact, I'm not really an expert on anything except me and even then I'm not so sure - but I'm good at googling.

"We may not consciously be aware that tearing down others can inflate ourselves. Yet the underlying message is something like, I wouldn’t think of doing such a thing, or I could never do that or I am shocked and aghast at such behavior. We are usually noting how utterly different we are from these people or how we would simply never sink to their level. Criticizing others is not just an offensive move against them; it is also a defensive move to protect our own “purity".When we are judgmental, therefore, we need other people’s faults in order to dodge our own. Stated simply, judgmental thinking is addicted to other people’s faults or destructive behavior. Judgmentalism finds its identity in what it is not".
- Terry Cooper 'Making Judgments without Being Judgmental: Nurturing a Clear Mind and a Generous Heart".

I'm not entirely comfortable with the source of this extract, and not knowing the author nor having read the book I don't know the true context of what he's saying, but I find interesting and I think it applies here. And I'm certainly not saying I'm not judgemental - I think we all are.
January 8, 2013 1:11 PM
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I'm getting the last word in!


Tacos.


Oh, that would have rocked if the thread had ended right there.

Poop.
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