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December 6, 2012 11:37 AM
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ROFL!!! :As I understand it, coffee is a dehydrator. Tea, not so much....but thinking about drinking the cup of hot water and then sucking the little tea bag... Over the top!! You are so funny!


The thing that makes coffee "dehydrate" (which it doesn't actually do) is caffeine. Some teas have more caffeine than coffee.
December 6, 2012 11:38 AM
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Think about this logically: Adding tea (or any flavoring) to water does not change the water into anything else.

Many people choose not to count those things, but their bodies still recognize the water.

And LMAO at classifying tea as "garbage."


but if i just eat the tea bag and then drink the water then I can count it
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December 6, 2012 11:40 AM
If I chew up some coffee beans and swallow them then drink a glass of water

Does it count?
December 6, 2012 11:49 AM
if my water is straight out of the tap, unfiltered and not distilled...
do the particles and minerals in it "bind" so that my stomach doesn't know it's water? because if that's the case I'm so screwed.

I'm going to back to my tea.
December 6, 2012 12:00 PM
If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".
Edited by ASPhantom On December 6, 2012 12:02 PM
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December 6, 2012 12:01 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.


Thank you. Couldn't have said it better.
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December 6, 2012 12:05 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".


But the water in which you brew the tea does not cease to be water when you add tea, on a molecular level. So, while the tea is not water, the water it's in is still water.
December 6, 2012 12:05 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".


It is an additive TO water. If you're talking chemistry wise, how are you missing the very fundamental step that tea is a mixture. So no, tea does not chemically change the water.
Edited by firstsip On December 6, 2012 12:05 PM
December 6, 2012 12:12 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".


It is an additive TO water. If you're talking chemistry wise, how are you missing the very fundamental step that tea is a mixture. So no, tea does not chemically change the water.


LMAO. I really don't know a damn thing about chemistry. It just sounded good. Anyway, I stand by my original reply to the OP.
  20883166
December 6, 2012 12:13 PM
I count tea as water.
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December 6, 2012 12:16 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".


It is an additive TO water. If you're talking chemistry wise, how are you missing the very fundamental step that tea is a mixture. So no, tea does not chemically change the water.


LMAO. I really don't know a damn thing about chemistry. It just sounded good. Anyway, I stand by my original reply to the OP.


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December 6, 2012 12:38 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".

Go back to school.
December 6, 2012 12:58 PM
I guess someone somewhere has to pick apart every casual comment for contradictions. Obviously it didn't PREVENT me from losing weight. I hope you can find more contradictions in all the other comments here because I'm sure it will give you a thrill.
December 6, 2012 1:35 PM
Coffee and some teas (like green and black) are diuretics, meaning that they make your body eliminate more water than usual.
They still contain water, they still count as water intake, but drinking a liter of pure water hydrates more your body than a liter of coffee or tea.

And this is not debatable, is a fact, anyone can search and see that coffee and some teas are diuretics, anyone can search what diuretics are.

Drinking water is not about reaching a goal of cups, it's about keeping your body properly hydrated and coping with natural water loss and forced water loss.
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December 6, 2012 1:56 PM
If your tea or coffee contains caffeine then you are shorting yourself on water. Coffee and tea are both diuretics which helps your body shed water. Caffeine also dehydrates you. Hydration is the whole point of drinking water. I still drink both coffee and tea daily I just don't count it as water intake. But, both are also good for you as they're both high antioxidants. You just have to watch what you add to them. smile
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December 6, 2012 3:19 PM
i count it.

Think of it this way... when you're making a pot of coffee or a cup of tea, what are you pouring? Water. So it's party of my water intake.

Not that I actually keep track of water intake. I drink when I'm thirsty. Or when I am working out intensely.
December 6, 2012 3:50 PM
I believe you can't count coffee as water, but you can count tea - not sure why!
December 6, 2012 4:13 PM
What it comes down to is that it's your log and you can do anything you want to with it. Log 8 glasses of vodka as your water intake if you want. There's no rules here, nobody checking up on you. I choose to not even bother with the silly water tracker feature. I may fall over all dried up and dead someday because I rarely drink plain water but in 55 years it hasn't happened yet so I think I'm going to be OK.
December 6, 2012 4:18 PM
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What it comes down to is that it's your log and you can do anything you want to with it. Log 8 glasses of vodka as your water intake if you want. There's no rules here, nobody checking up on you. I choose to not even bother with the silly water tracker feature. I may fall over all dried up and dead someday because I rarely drink plain water but in 55 years it hasn't happened yet so I think I'm going to be OK.


You NEVER drink plain water? You are a medical marvel if you are still alive. Everything else just sucks all the water OUT of your body!
December 6, 2012 6:49 PM
Constantly repeating 'coffee is a diuretic' doesn't make it true...
Edited by agthorn On December 6, 2012 6:49 PM
December 6, 2012 7:49 PM
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What it comes down to is that it's your log and you can do anything you want to with it. Log 8 glasses of vodka as your water intake if you want. There's no rules here, nobody checking up on you. I choose to not even bother with the silly water tracker feature. I may fall over all dried up and dead someday because I rarely drink plain water but in 55 years it hasn't happened yet so I think I'm going to be OK.


You NEVER drink plain water? You are a medical marvel if you are still alive. Everything else just sucks all the water OUT of your body!


Not very often. I've had at least 5 cups of tea today, 3 diet sodas, and a couple cups of almond milk along with soup for lunch and an apple. I'm feeling pretty well hydrated too!
December 6, 2012 9:10 PM
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What it comes down to is that it's your log and you can do anything you want to with it. Log 8 glasses of vodka as your water intake if you want. There's no rules here, nobody checking up on you. I choose to not even bother with the silly water tracker feature. I may fall over all dried up and dead someday because I rarely drink plain water but in 55 years it hasn't happened yet so I think I'm going to be OK.


You NEVER drink plain water? You are a medical marvel if you are still alive. Everything else just sucks all the water OUT of your body!


I drink a gallon of diet soda a day, and no water. I literally pee dust.
December 6, 2012 10:48 PM
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Think about this logically: Adding tea (or any flavoring) to water does not change the water into anything else.

Many people choose not to count those things, but their bodies still recognize the water.

And LMAO at classifying tea as "garbage."
NOT TRUE AT ALL. Tea and coffee both contain caffeine which acts as a diuretic which in turn could actually cause dehydration, even caffeine free tea contains catechins which acts as a diuretic. Not only will it cause dehydration, but it also flushes out the vitamins and nutrients from your body caffeine depletes calcium from your bones, leading to osteoporosis. Only water is water.
Edited by hkry3250 On December 6, 2012 10:55 PM
December 6, 2012 10:58 PM
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If you want to get really technical, Chemistry wise, water can only equal water. Tea has over 2,000 chemical compounds in it. So, by adding tea to your water, you are changing the chemical make-up of the water thus making it no longer water but tea.

So, tea is NOT water.

Note: (added) MFP doesn't ask for "liquids", it asks for "Water".


But the water in which you brew the tea does not cease to be water when you add tea, on a molecular level. So, while the tea is not water, the water it's in is still water.
Lol, wrong again. Yes, I'm in college chemistry. It is actually a chemical reaction because it relies on the chemical properties of water and of the substances in the tea leaf. These substances-tannins, caffeine, and many others-dissolve in the hot water. The heat accelerates the reaction, but it is not a physical change. (Try steeping a tea bag in cold water-eventually you will get tea, although it will taste a bit different, probably because heat affects the dissolution of the various substances at different rates.) It's a chemical reaction therefore it does change the molecular properties of the water. Don't you just love how people try to sound smart, when they have no clue what they are talking about?
Edited by hkry3250 On December 6, 2012 10:59 PM
December 6, 2012 11:56 PM
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...Don't you just love how people try to sound smart, when they have no clue what they are talking about?

Oh, the irony.
Edited by AnvilHead On December 6, 2012 11:57 PM
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