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December 12, 2012 4:58 AM
The reason MFP encourages you to count your water intake is to make sure you hydrate yourself throughout the day. Sometimes, when dehydrated, you might feel hungry but you are not! You just need liquid. Coffee (and some teas) is a diuretic, so drink wisely. Anything else is water intake. Even the water in your celery. Just check the color of your urine, dark yellow=not hydrated, pale to colorless=drinking enough fluids.
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December 12, 2012 5:17 AM
My advice is to take everything as an opinion unless you have Scientific evidence as in a case study or what not or have proof of a degree certifying your knowledge in a particular subject, especially considering anyone can post on this Topic Review. I think you would have to be pretty naive to believe every single thing someone posted to be a fact without taking any consideration of anything for yourself. That is weird I was able to copy and paste the exact website and it pulled up just fine, and the second website is actually a medical provider and the resource I posted was actually published. My post was to try to help someone and she could have taken it however perceived. I am not going to go through and see what everyone else has posted and base my opinion on that. I have my own mind and did my own research and posted MY OWN reply. This is supposed to be a website to encourage and help people reach their fitness goals, not fight and bicker back and forth about who is right or wrong or whatever. Take my opinion or dont I dont really care my original advice was to the young lady that was asking. I am sure she has enough to go through and examine for herself anyways. By just reviewing a little of the replys, wow, it seems to be such a discouraging forum full of negative comments and drama!
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December 12, 2012 5:23 AM
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. This is supposed to be a website to encourage and help people reach their fitness goals, not fight and bicker back and forth about who is right or wrong or whatever.


this is a very common statement when there is are different interpretations about this "journey"

If I tell a new person that they don't really need to count calories and that they must only eat organic foods, should people encourage and support my statement?
December 12, 2012 5:28 AM
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did my own research and posted MY OWN reply.


You later admitted the "research" was that the little "glass" on the food logging page says "8 cups of water."

There are pages and pages and pages here with quotes and links to actual scientfic research and advice from trusted sources that say the opposite of what you posted and instead of reading and learning, you posted false information in the form of your opinion backed up by literally nothing.

When a person comes here with a genuine question, that person deserves an answer that doesn't come from, "Well, I think A because a green whale came down from space and told me so."
December 12, 2012 5:36 AM
In the grand old scheme of things, a cup of tea is not going to feck up your diet. The 'water' counter on here is, in my opinion, just to keep tabs so you don't dehydrate. It's not the law. It's a measure of fluids (within reason, guys, don't be drinking meths/ hippo piss/ hydrochloric acid etc), doesn't have to be pure water. If you've had 4 glasses of water and three cups of tea, you are not going to put on 20 pounds/ lose all the muscles in your right arm/ scare your metabolism. If you put milk in it, add it to your cals (I just add three cups of tea every day as standard as I know I will have at least that.)

But, yes, add your cup of tea to the liquid counter. I swear it's only called a water counter so any Americans who drink antifreeze can't litigate...tongue
Edited by MsEmmy On December 12, 2012 5:38 AM
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December 12, 2012 5:59 AM
"The Panel on Dietetic Products, Nutrition and Allergies from the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)* has issued a Scientific Opinion on Dietary Reference Values for water where the following reference values for total water intake are considered (see table). Note that the amount of water that is deemed adequate includes water from drinking water, beverages of all kind, and from food moisture and only apply to conditions of moderate environment"


Note that the amount of water that is deemed adequate includes water from drinking water, beverages of all kind, and from food moisture ."

with this criteria- the answer is YES to the op.
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December 12, 2012 6:02 AM
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Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.


rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?
Ohh you are so funny....if you add milk it becomes milk thinned out with water
December 12, 2012 6:03 AM
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Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.


rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?
Ohh you are so funny....if you add milk it becomes milk thinned out with water

So? Why wouldn't it still count?
December 12, 2012 6:08 AM


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So, when you drink water with a meal, what part of the stomach does the water go into so that it doesn't mix with everything else. I don't want my body to confuse the water I drink with any of the other garbage in my stomach.

Also, what magical properties does tea have to zap all of the water out of the pitcher? I KNOW I put water in there...a whole lot of water with very little tea.



laugh drinker bigsmile
December 12, 2012 6:11 AM
Here's why I don't count tea and coffee...

Water is just very good for your body, and in my opinion you can't get enough of it. So if I'm just logging the water I drink, and I focus on getting 10-16 cups per day, then any other water I get is just bonus (from food, coffee, tea, milk, etc).
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December 12, 2012 7:40 AM
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Don't be silly - you're supposed to drink water for HYDRATION. Black tea and coffee contain significant amounts of caffeine, which is a diuretic and results in DEHYDRATION. Want to push this to extremes? Vodka is 60% water - want to count that too?

So, does coffee count as water? Only decaf. Same is true for tea, even green tea. Only herbal tea is caffeine free (as opposed to decaffeinated).

Sheesh.


If you drank only coffee and tea, you'd die of old age before you'd die of dehydration.
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December 12, 2012 7:46 AM
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QUOTE:

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Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.


rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?
Ohh you are so funny....if you add milk it becomes milk thinned out with water


Or water thickened with milk..
  27437849
December 12, 2012 7:47 AM
can someone please put this thread in the death box?
December 12, 2012 7:55 AM
ahaha this thread became even funnier!

"So, when you drink water with a meal, what part of the stomach does the water go into so that it doesn't mix with everything else. I don't want my body to confuse the water I drink with any of the other garbage in my stomach. "

the best!
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December 12, 2012 9:22 AM
Everytime I turn the tap on to pour some water to drink, the sound of running water makes me want to pee. Is water a diuretic and will I become dehydrated if I pour too much of it?
Edited by kmorganlfc On December 12, 2012 9:22 AM
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December 12, 2012 9:30 AM
I count my tea as water. I don't drink iced tea or sweet tea. Just hot water and a tea bag. I usually get the caffeine free kind so there are no calories or anything to log so why shouldn't it count as water?
December 12, 2012 9:32 AM
This is non sense...I was told by a nutritionist that I could count Crystal lite as water....Thinking I will take her advice...worked so far
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December 12, 2012 9:56 AM
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I think the main thing is that you shouldn't log something like an Odwalla smoothie or a milkshake or a frappuccino as water ONLY, because you should be adding the calories. But the frappuccino has like a cup of water in it at least, so from there on out it's whatever you feel like is good and working for you to help you meet your goals. But as the person with the 78 calorie tea points out, you wanna be checking your nutrition labels, even when the food basically never has calories.

This is totally speculative, but I think the thing with tea and coffee, too, is when I drink a coffee I might drink a 20 ounce coffee in half an hour or so. Which, if I drank 20 ounces of water in that time, would cause the same issues. But people have a tendency to drink water more slowly, because it isn't the hot and delicious elixir of life, it is the cold-to-room-temperature and flavorless elixir of life.


This made me happy. Coffee is the hot and delicious elixir of life haha.
December 12, 2012 10:03 AM
I was told that caffeinated beverages only act as diuretics when consumed in excess (5+ cups of coffee a day)

On the other hand I am not a doctor, a nutritionist, or any other type of expert so take that with a grain of salt
December 12, 2012 11:23 AM
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Don't be silly - you're supposed to drink water for HYDRATION. Black tea and coffee contain significant amounts of caffeine, which is a diuretic and results in DEHYDRATION. Want to push this to extremes? Vodka is 60% water - want to count that too?

So, does coffee count as water? Only decaf. Same is true for tea, even green tea. Only herbal tea is caffeine free (as opposed to decaffeinated).

Sheesh.


If you drank only coffee and tea, you'd die of old age before you'd die of dehydration.


If you drank only vodka, scotch, and beer the same would be true. But don't tell me that you would be hydrated.
  87648
January 2, 2013 1:43 PM
QUOTE:

does blood count as water

please reply asap urgent


Only if you are a vampire darlin blushing
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January 2, 2013 1:45 PM
Talked to all 3 Dr's i work for and all say Tea is to count as water. Usually though i just track my tea and coffee with my meals and water intake seperately
  20020257
December 30, 2013 2:55 AM
Lighten Up Francis
December 30, 2013 3:23 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Don't be silly - you're supposed to drink water for HYDRATION. Black tea and coffee contain significant amounts of caffeine, which is a diuretic and results in DEHYDRATION. Want to push this to extremes? Vodka is 60% water - want to count that too?

So, does coffee count as water? Only decaf. Same is true for tea, even green tea. Only herbal tea is caffeine free (as opposed to decaffeinated).

Sheesh.


If you drank only coffee and tea, you'd die of old age before you'd die of dehydration.


Coffee and tea cause old age? Oh no!
December 30, 2013 3:29 AM
For those that say only water is water and once you add tea or coffee it becomes a chemical compound - this is what may added to drinking water :-

Aluminium sulfate
Ammonia (ammonium hydroxide)
Ammonium sulfate
Calcium hydroxide
Calcium hypochlorite
Calcium oxide
Calcium/sodium poly-phosphate
silicate
Carbon, powdered activated C
Chlorine Cl2
Copper sulfate
Ferric chloride
Ferric sulfate
Hydro fluorosilicic acid
(Fluorosilicic acid)
Hydrogen peroxide
Magne tite
Polyaluminium chloride
Polydimethyldiallyl ammonium
chloride
Polyacrylamides and acrylic acid
(polymers and copolymers)
Potassium permangana te
Silver hydrogen peroxide
Sodium alginate
Sodium bicarbonate
Sodium carbonate
Sodium chloride
Sodium fluoride
Sodium fluorosilicate
(Sodium silico fluoride)
Sodium hexametaphospha te
Sodium hydroxide
Sodium hypochlorite
Sodium silicate
Sulphuric acid
Zinc ortho-phosphate

Hmmmmmm huh
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