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December 12, 2012 2:41 AM
This thread is awesome. Also, do not drink 6 litres of water a day because you will spend all day weeing.
December 12, 2012 2:54 AM
I am really enjoying this thread...with a big cup of tea!!
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December 12, 2012 3:01 AM
I count my coffee as water intake as I also have to count the creamer I put in it.
December 12, 2012 3:07 AM
Don't be silly - you're supposed to drink water for HYDRATION. Black tea and coffee contain significant amounts of caffeine, which is a diuretic and results in DEHYDRATION. Want to push this to extremes? Vodka is 60% water - want to count that too?

So, does coffee count as water? Only decaf. Same is true for tea, even green tea. Only herbal tea is caffeine free (as opposed to decaffeinated).

Sheesh.
Edited by earlyxer On December 12, 2012 3:09 AM
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December 12, 2012 3:08 AM
Last time I checked tea and coffee have calories, so they have to be counted. But I very, very rarely drink either, so I don't have that issue. I'm becoming rather content with just having my water. =)
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December 12, 2012 3:09 AM
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Think about this logically: Adding tea (or any flavoring) to water does not change the water into anything else.

Many people choose not to count those things, but their bodies still recognize the water.

And LMAO at classifying tea as "garbage."

Yes. I've given up trying to convince people of this obvious fact. The logically challenged will still spout their nonsense.


this *eyeroll*
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December 12, 2012 3:09 AM
Um , I drink 2-3 litres of water a day + 2 cups of coffee . Best of both worlds? Y U Mad bro?
December 12, 2012 3:10 AM
COUNT IT as water if you want...DON'T COUNT IT as water if you don't want...jeeeez... it's that simple.
This is like the chicken or the egg...which came first. Who cares...

There is no right or wrong answer! Just do what you want on your diary!
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December 12, 2012 3:13 AM
I dont drink coffee, but i have fruit tea and normal tea every other day and i count all of them as water. Dont listen to people saying its garbage drinking tea or coffee. smile
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December 12, 2012 3:14 AM
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water intake for a normal human being should be at least 6 liters per day. Even in the cold season catching up, once should not lessen there water intake as they are necessary for eviction of toxins and wastes from the body. So keep up with that fluid consumption.


it is even better to not put toxins in your body in the first place then you don't have to evict them later
December 12, 2012 3:17 AM
How have I only just seen this thread? Hilarious! laugh

My two cents: nothing beats plain old water, but if you were stranded in a desert dying of thirst and somebody offered you a nice cup of tea...it would save your life.

bigsmile
Edited by Lyra89 On December 12, 2012 3:18 AM
December 12, 2012 3:23 AM
Tea and coffee are both considered diuretics. But only considered harmful diuretics if you consume more than 4 to 6 cups a day. I always heard of a good idea to figure out how much water you should be drinking is to divide your weight by 2. For instance I weigh 151 pounds so I need to consume at least 77 ounces of water or so not including the other liquids as in powerade zero that i drink. If you are working out and drinking mostly tea which is caffinated and a diuretic and not consuming the required water intake you will get dehydrated during your workout which can cause fatigue or dizzyness etc. I find for myself I can drink more water if I have the temperature at room temp because I have very sensitive teeth and they do not like the cold water! Also, I find if I carry 2 one liter bottles of water in my backpack while I am at school, I drink them, if I dont have them bought or dont pack them I dont drink alot of water. Making it available is what helps me the most and I even get compliments on how great my skin looks because it is nice and hydrated and I do sweat ALOT when i work out I always have!

This website was also very helpful in clarifying some your basic question of what counts as water intake or fluid intake! Good luck!

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283


And some tips for creative ways to keep up your fluid intake during the winter months ;)

http://www.watercoolersdirect.com/blog/drinking-water-in-winter/

Hope this helps! Good luck!
Edited by skypie02 On December 12, 2012 4:03 AM
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December 12, 2012 3:29 AM
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water intake for a normal human being should be at least 6 liters per day.


that is about 24 8 oz cups.

that is three times what MFP says we need.

who is right? ...you..or MFP...or neither?
December 12, 2012 3:36 AM
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water intake for a normal human being should be at least 6 liters per day.


That sounds like a perfect recipe for triggering hyponatremia particularly if you are trying to restrict salt or sugar heavily as is so common nowadays.

It's really simple: if your urine is very dark increase fluid intake, if it is very light then decrease it.

Good lord.
December 12, 2012 3:36 AM
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Its not just 8 glasses of water, its 8 glasses of any liquid.

So yes coffee and tea do count. Although I do not encourage you to replace coffee and tea for your water, unless you mean green tea :-)


Even vodka? drinker


Yes I think Vodka would count. However chemically a glass of Vodka would contain aproximately 40% alcohol. Therefore you would have to drink 11.2 glasses of Vodka to get the same equivilent of water. You would then have the added complication of the alcohol to deal with such as puking, requiring late night greasy food and the calories in the alcohol itself. By which time you would be too pissed to calculate your correct calorie consumption ect, ect ect.........
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December 12, 2012 3:56 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

water intake for a normal human being should be at least 6 liters per day. Even in the cold season catching up, once should not lessen there water intake as they are necessary for eviction of toxins and wastes from the body. So keep up with that fluid consumption.


it is even better to not put toxins in your body in the first place then you don't have to evict them later


Especially since taking them to court when they refuse to leave is so time-consuming.
December 12, 2012 3:58 AM
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Tea and coffee are both considered diuretics.


No. Read the rest of the thread with actual links to actual medical advice from places like, oh, the MAYO CLINIC that do not support this statement.

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The reccommended water intake a day is 8, 8 ounce glasses a day that is not supposed to include other liquids that you consume.


Please show me your source for this statement.
December 12, 2012 4:04 AM
Just finished my 2nd coffee of the day. I'm 24oz into my goals already!
December 12, 2012 4:04 AM
Which counts as water...

Soda - any kind
or
Cool, clear, healthy, satisfying, water while eating a pack of gummi bears

I rest my case.
December 12, 2012 4:04 AM
Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.
December 12, 2012 4:07 AM
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Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.


rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?
December 12, 2012 4:11 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.


rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?


No, once the mixed water and milk are ingested it causes the person to turn in a zombie and craziness ensues.
December 12, 2012 4:34 AM
QUOTE:

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Tea is practicly water as long as you don´t add milk to it.


rut roh...what happens?

does the milk drink the water?


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
December 12, 2012 4:46 AM
It says the amount of water consumed as 8, 8 ounce glasses of water on the mfp website food diary. My post was based on my own opinion. I am not a medical doctor so I thought it would be helpful to give her other optional educational materials so that she may decide her own opinion. Here is some evidence for you that tea and coffee are considered diuretics.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/UnderstandingOver-the-CounterMedicines/UCM205286.pdf

and another website

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA57092

Thanks
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December 12, 2012 4:51 AM
QUOTE:

It says the amount of water consumed as 8, 8 ounce glasses of water on the mfp website food diary. My post was based on my own opinion. I am not a medical doctor so I thought it would be helpful to give her other optional educational materials so that she may decide her own opinion. Here is some evidence for you that tea and coffee are considered diuretics.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/UnderstandingOver-the-CounterMedicines/UCM205286.pdf

and another website

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA57092

Thanks


*sigh* I can't seem to open the first link and the second is to some guy trying to sell something. Not a particularly good source. If you look back in the thread, I posted what the Mayo Clinic says about caffeine. It is not what that guy says.

And notice the Mayo Clinic link you posted (and I see you edited your original post) says, "Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total."

How about stating something as opinion rather than fact when it is only an opinion?
Edited by rml_16 On December 12, 2012 4:52 AM

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