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November 29, 2012 7:10 PM
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Yeah................ the paleo diet also saved my dog and paid my mortgage.....j/k.


You may be joking but it did save my dog. She had a skin disease that would not go away and was costing a small fortune in meds and vet visits. I tried "paleo" on her and the disease went away in two months, her coat is shiny, and she no longer constantly whines and scratches herself all day long.

Processed foods, no matter the intended consumer, or victim, should be avoided.

OFG


Doesn't seem like you do a very good job of avoiding processed foods
November 29, 2012 7:23 PM
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Neanderthin said:

Yeah................ the paleo diet also saved my dog and paid my mortgage.....j/k.


You may be joking but it did save my dog. She had a skin disease that would not go away and was costing a small fortune in meds and vet visits. I tried "paleo" on her and the disease went away in two months, her coat is shiny, and she no longer constantly whines and scratches herself all day long.

Processed foods, no matter the intended consumer, or victim, should be avoided.

OFG

Did you put butter in her coffee? That worked for my dog.
Edited by sjohnny On November 29, 2012 7:24 PM
  914777
November 29, 2012 7:36 PM
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Neanderthin said:

Yeah................ the paleo diet also saved my dog and paid my mortgage.....j/k.


You may be joking but it did save my dog. She had a skin disease that would not go away and was costing a small fortune in meds and vet visits. I tried "paleo" on her and the disease went away in two months, her coat is shiny, and she no longer constantly whines and scratches herself all day long.

Processed foods, no matter the intended consumer, or victim, should be avoided.

OFG

Did you put butter in her coffee? That worked for my dog.


Butter's not paleo brau.
November 29, 2012 9:50 PM
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Neanderthin said:

Yeah................ the paleo diet also saved my dog and paid my mortgage.....j/k.


You may be joking but it did save my dog. She had a skin disease that would not go away and was costing a small fortune in meds and vet visits. I tried "paleo" on her and the disease went away in two months, her coat is shiny, and she no longer constantly whines and scratches herself all day long.

Processed foods, no matter the intended consumer, or victim, should be avoided.

OFG

Did you put butter in her coffee? That worked for my dog.


I know you're being troll-ish but maybe others will take note: Took her off dry and canned dogfood and started feeding her raw beef, beef fat, and beef bones.
November 30, 2012 7:10 AM
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Many naysayers claim this menu is too restrictive. My answer to that is an unequivacal "bull****." There are now many paleo cookbooks on the market not to mention many, many more blogs with recipes. How can a diet using all the various fresh veggies and all the various meats be restrictive?


I call it too restritve because it excludes legumes. I don't care so much for dairy, other than cheese, but giving up beans and peanut butter would make me miserable for no reason, since there is a wealth of medical evidence proving health benefits from them (not to mention my own half century of personal experience). So for me it's a overly restrictive diet.
November 30, 2012 7:22 AM
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Many naysayers claim this menu is too restrictive. My answer to that is an unequivacal "bull****." There are now many paleo cookbooks on the market not to mention many, many more blogs with recipes. How can a diet using all the various fresh veggies and all the various meats be restrictive?


I call it too restritve because it excludes legumes. I don't care so much for dairy, other than cheese, but giving up beans and peanut butter would make me miserable for no reason, since there is a wealth of medical evidence proving health benefits from them (not to mention my own half century of personal experience). So for me it's a overly restrictive diet.
Many vegans say the same thing, that their diet isn't restrictive, but fortunately some actually admit it, and call a spade a spade......
November 30, 2012 1:02 PM
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Many naysayers claim this menu is too restrictive. My answer to that is an unequivacal "bull****." There are now many paleo cookbooks on the market not to mention many, many more blogs with recipes. How can a diet using all the various fresh veggies and all the various meats be restrictive?


I call it too restritve because it excludes legumes. I don't care so much for dairy, other than cheese, but giving up beans and peanut butter would make me miserable for no reason, since there is a wealth of medical evidence proving health benefits from them (not to mention my own half century of personal experience). So for me it's a overly restrictive diet.


swap almond butter for peanut butter... not that big of a difference.

legumes... if that's the one thing that keeps you from eating Paleo... then eat legumes. Just don't eat heaps every day since they'll be taking up nutritional space on your plate that would be better filled with veggies. Make them a smaller portion of your diet, and shoot more for fresh legumes like peas and green beans than dried beans. If you do eat beans, just be sure to cook them properly.
  24977578
November 30, 2012 1:16 PM
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Many naysayers claim this menu is too restrictive. My answer to that is an unequivacal "bull****." There are now many paleo cookbooks on the market not to mention many, many more blogs with recipes. How can a diet using all the various fresh veggies and all the various meats be restrictive?


I call it too restritve because it excludes legumes. I don't care so much for dairy, other than cheese, but giving up beans and peanut butter would make me miserable for no reason, since there is a wealth of medical evidence proving health benefits from them (not to mention my own half century of personal experience). So for me it's a overly restrictive diet.
Many vegans say the same thing, that their diet isn't restrictive, but fortunately some actually admit it, and call a spade a spade......


I think it's pretty obvious that both Paleo and Vegan eliminate some big things, but for different reasons. For me, while Paleo eliminates foods, it doesn't feel "limiting". I'm guessing that's what this poster meant too. I actually think I eat a more varied menu now than I did before, because I'm making an effort to cook veggies and meat in new and interesting ways. Now, I could also be cooking my meals in new and interesting ways WITHOUT PALEO... but I've had fun exploring the Paleo blogs and cookbooks for great new ideas. Because Paleo embraces healthy fats, my meals taste much better and are more filling for me than when I "restricted" myself to a low fat menu. And I can afford the cals that add up quickly with a high fat diet because I'm not getting cals from as many carbs as I did before Paleo.

I'm an elf... only 5'1, so my TDEE-20% is around 1400. I still eat at a cal deficit while trying to lose weight, but I never feel like I used to feel when I was "dieting". By eliminating the exact foods that I used to overeat, I'm able to focus more on enjoying the foods that actually nourish me and make me feel full. And because I've eliminated them versus "moderating" them, I find that I don't crave them and I don't have the mental anguish of eating a little bit, wanting more, denying myself, or giving in to the urge and overeating and then regretting it. Just me... some people are great at moderating, but not me. The structure of Paleo provides me the tools to eat most nutritiously at my cal deficit, and then later when I'm at maintenance.
  24977578
November 30, 2012 3:31 PM
Wish I was a Paleo so I could try out some of those recipes on the Paleo blogs and cookbooks.
  914777
November 30, 2012 3:37 PM
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Many naysayers claim this menu is too restrictive. My answer to that is an unequivacal "bull****." There are now many paleo cookbooks on the market not to mention many, many more blogs with recipes. How can a diet using all the various fresh veggies and all the various meats be restrictive?


I call it too restritve because it excludes legumes. I don't care so much for dairy, other than cheese, but giving up beans and peanut butter would make me miserable for no reason, since there is a wealth of medical evidence proving health benefits from them (not to mention my own half century of personal experience). So for me it's a overly restrictive diet.
Many vegans say the same thing, that their diet isn't restrictive, but fortunately some actually admit it, and call a spade a spade......


I think it's pretty obvious that both Paleo and Vegan eliminate some big things, but for different reasons. For me, while Paleo eliminates foods, it doesn't feel "limiting". I'm guessing that's what this poster meant too. I actually think I eat a more varied menu now than I did before, because I'm making an effort to cook veggies and meat in new and interesting ways. Now, I could also be cooking my meals in new and interesting ways WITHOUT PALEO... but I've had fun exploring the Paleo blogs and cookbooks for great new ideas. Because Paleo embraces healthy fats, my meals taste much better and are more filling for me than when I "restricted" myself to a low fat menu. And I can afford the cals that add up quickly with a high fat diet because I'm not getting cals from as many carbs as I did before Paleo.

I'm an elf... only 5'1, so my TDEE-20% is around 1400. I still eat at a cal deficit while trying to lose weight, but I never feel like I used to feel when I was "dieting". By eliminating the exact foods that I used to overeat, I'm able to focus more on enjoying the foods that actually nourish me and make me feel full. And because I've eliminated them versus "moderating" them, I find that I don't crave them and I don't have the mental anguish of eating a little bit, wanting more, denying myself, or giving in to the urge and overeating and then regretting it. Just me... some people are great at moderating, but not me. The structure of Paleo provides me the tools to eat most nutritiously at my cal deficit, and then later when I'm at maintenance.



second this ^^ well said
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November 30, 2012 6:26 PM
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Wish I was a Paleo so I could try out some of those recipes on the Paleo blogs and cookbooks.


Nope. We'll sense you with our paleo senses and call the paleo police.
  24977578
November 30, 2012 6:38 PM
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Neanderthin said:

Yeah................ the paleo diet also saved my dog and paid my mortgage.....j/k.


You may be joking but it did save my dog. She had a skin disease that would not go away and was costing a small fortune in meds and vet visits. I tried "paleo" on her and the disease went away in two months, her coat is shiny, and she no longer constantly whines and scratches herself all day long.

Processed foods, no matter the intended consumer, or victim, should be avoided.

OFG

Did you put butter in her coffee? That worked for my dog.


Make that grass-fed butter and add MCT oil and you'd have yourself one seriously bulletproof dog.
  24977578
November 30, 2012 6:42 PM
I knew it
  914777
November 30, 2012 6:52 PM
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I knew it


The trail of skittles would lead us to you.
  24977578
November 30, 2012 6:53 PM
I went through a 6 month phase of being Paleo(ish), reading The Primal Blueprint, Mark's Daily Apple, Wheat Belly, being a grain/legume-avoider, chugging MCTs and all those related thangs.

All good fun and good to cut the processed stuff out for a while but in the absence of food sensitivities it's just another way of eating (and creating a calorie deficit).

Right now I'm happier doing the whole moderation thing and taking the 'Does it fit my nutritional plan?' out of the equation.

With the stress of a new job in the offing simplicity won out. Get enough protein, eat food that keeps you satisfied. Want a sandwich? White bread? Have a sandwich.

As a result of it I do eat more whole foods and less overly processed stuff though.
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December 1, 2012 4:20 AM
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I knew it


The trail of skittles would lead us to you.

Damn! I knew there had to be a downside.
  914777
December 1, 2012 2:37 PM
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This actually speaks partially to the argument going on here. Grains add more fat to the cattle. There's a good chance they do the same to us. :)


Crazy talk. With that logic, next you'll say people shouldn't drink cow milk because it's purpose is to grow calves into cows. Pshaw.


So we should throw out all the years of medical research that use mice/monkeys/cats/cows/etc.? There are many studies that show that carbohydrates in particular make us gain weight, make mice gain weight, etc.
December 1, 2012 2:41 PM
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This actually speaks partially to the argument going on here. Grains add more fat to the cattle. There's a good chance they do the same to us. :)


Crazy talk. With that logic, next you'll say people shouldn't drink cow milk because it's purpose is to grow calves into cows. Pshaw.


So we should throw out all the years of medical research that use mice/monkeys/cats/cows/etc.? There are many studies that show that carbohydrates in particular make us gain weight, make mice gain weight, etc.


Pretty sure they show caloric surpluses do, regardless of macronutrient
December 1, 2012 2:45 PM
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And as for the guy who said you do not need protein to live, you are completely wrong. Just missing any one of the essential amino acids for an extended period of time will eventually lead to death, though it may take a while for your body to catabolize your current stores.


That "guy" would be me, though I am a gal. And you are correct, we need the amino acids, but we don't need dietary protein. The fact is there are a lot of people living without ever eating anything, so all thse nonsensical arguments about dietary needs are useless. The fact that the human body won't die without dietary carbohydrates does not prove a diet without carbohydrates is healthy or ideal. Outside medical need, a smart and balanced diet including all the macronutrients is the most likely path to good health.


Ok - Now at least no one in the forum will listen to your advice on protein. You just said:

"The fact is there are a lot of people living without ever eating anything."

Really?
December 1, 2012 2:55 PM
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Actually, eating grains as part of an balanced, healthy diet is a no-brainer, unless you have some sort of medical condition.


Carbohydrates, especially refined carbohydrates, cause heart disease. The science will show this, but studies can't be created overnight. Now, if you choose to continue to consume them and go down that path, that's okay with me. But as for me and my house, we will serve meat.
December 1, 2012 2:56 PM
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Actually, eating grains as part of an balanced, healthy diet is a no-brainer, unless you have some sort of medical condition.


Carbohydrates, especially refined carbohydrates, cause heart disease. The science will show this, but studies can't be created overnight. Now, if you choose to continue to consume them and go down that path, that's okay with me. But as for me and my house, we will serve meat.


O rly? Please post those studies
December 1, 2012 3:24 PM
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Actually, eating grains as part of an balanced, healthy diet is a no-brainer, unless you have some sort of medical condition.


Carbohydrates, especially refined carbohydrates, cause heart disease. The science will show this, but studies can't be created overnight. Now, if you choose to continue to consume them and go down that path, that's okay with me. But as for me and my house, we will serve meat.


lolwut?
December 1, 2012 3:25 PM
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plaeo is a joke.


agreed.
December 1, 2012 3:31 PM
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plaeo is a joke.


agreed.


if you are going to belittle it the least you could do is learn how to spell it
December 1, 2012 3:31 PM
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Actually, eating grains as part of an balanced, healthy diet is a no-brainer, unless you have some sort of medical condition.


Carbohydrates, especially refined carbohydrates, cause heart disease. The science will show this, but studies can't be created overnight. Now, if you choose to continue to consume them and go down that path, that's okay with me. But as for me and my house, we will serve meat.




How do you know that science will show this? Image not displayed

Because eating carbs is such a 21st century thing and we have not had the time to study their impact yet.
Edited by Sarauk2sf On December 1, 2012 3:32 PM
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