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November 20, 2012 4:29 PM
Dear Fitbit users,

We've been looking closely at the question of how best to incorporate the calorie data from these devices. While we have further improvements on the way, we're announcing an update today that will let you customize the way your tracker's data affects your daily calorie goal.

We've added a setting that controls how calorie adjustments lower than zero are accounted for in your Exercise Diary.

A negative calorie adjustment means that your projected calorie burn for the day from Fitbit is below MyFitnessPal's initial estimate. By default, negative calorie adjustments will now be changed to a value of zero. If you prefer, you may opt to enable negative calorie adjustments to appear, which will decrease your food calorie goal on low-activity days.

We recommend leaving negative adjustments off, if:
- you do not expect to wear your tracking device consistently
- your device can only sync occasionally, or only late in the day
- you wish to use the device only for the motivational experience of earning additional calories from exercise

We recommend enabling negative adjustments if:
- you expect to wear your tracking device consistently
- your device is able to sync its data multiple times over the course of the day
- you would like the most accurate calorie feedback MyFitnessPal can provide

To enable negative calorie adjustments, log in to your account at http://www.myfitnesspal.com, then go to My Home > Settings > Diary settings.

For more information on MyFitnessPal's integration with Fitbit, please visit MyFitnessPal's Help section:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/help/section/65-fitbit-integration

Thanks for all of your feedback,
Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff
November 20, 2012 4:48 PM
I'll opt-in. Thanks for the option!
  23643110
November 20, 2012 5:04 PM
I opted in also. I have gotten used to it I guess. I do not log my exercise I just use my adjustment.
November 20, 2012 6:14 PM
Remaining calories and exercise totals don't agree between website and iOS apps.
Website shows correct, apps don't.
  8041888
November 20, 2012 7:13 PM
Thank you for the option!! This makes my day. :)
November 20, 2012 8:21 PM
Thanks. I opted out. I may choose to opt in later but for now I like just knowing how many calories I ate and how many calories I burnt by my activities. I don't mess with my calculations until late in the day after I have eaten pretty much all I will and have gotten home from the gym. So, for me I will follow your advice and opt out.

Thanks for the choice.
November 20, 2012 9:46 PM
I am still a bit confused...how many calories does myfitnesspal figure is an average for me?

Today is a perfect example...worked all day at desk job ...then went to gym for 1 hr...came home tonight at 9pm and synced...and it gave me an -80 adjustment. Yet the excercise machines say I burned over 400 calories.
It says i walked 4.29 miles and did 9,557 steps...i haven't even eaten 1200 calories today...so I am really wondering why a negative. How many calories or miles does myfitness pal expect me to burn on an average day I don't go to the gym.

I know I see comments that only syncing once at end of day can have an effect...I don't understand why it does...but I guess this is what is happening.
Danna
November 20, 2012 9:49 PM
I like the negatives so have opted in but thanks for the option, this should please a lot of negative haters.
November 20, 2012 10:44 PM
QUOTE:

I am still a bit confused...how many calories does myfitnesspal figure is an average for me?

Today is a perfect example...worked all day at desk job ...then went to gym for 1 hr...came home tonight at 9pm and synced...and it gave me an -80 adjustment. Yet the excercise machines say I burned over 400 calories.
It says i walked 4.29 miles and did 9,557 steps...i haven't even eaten 1200 calories today...so I am really wondering why a negative. How many calories or miles does myfitness pal expect me to burn on an average day I don't go to the gym.

I know I see comments that only syncing once at end of day can have an effect...I don't understand why it does...but I guess this is what is happening.
Danna



Have you set your MFP activity level to sedentary. You can see what MFP has set your activity level to by going to 'My home' and then 'goals'. Does that help?

Also, what do you do at the gym, you may be better off putting it in manually if its not step based.
  482223
November 21, 2012 4:55 AM
QUOTE:

I am still a bit confused...how many calories does myfitnesspal figure is an average for me?

Today is a perfect example...worked all day at desk job ...then went to gym for 1 hr...came home tonight at 9pm and synced...and it gave me an -80 adjustment. Yet the excercise machines say I burned over 400 calories.
It says i walked 4.29 miles and did 9,557 steps...i haven't even eaten 1200 calories today...so I am really wondering why a negative. How many calories or miles does myfitness pal expect me to burn on an average day I don't go to the gym.

I know I see comments that only syncing once at end of day can have an effect...I don't understand why it does...but I guess this is what is happening.
Danna


This -80 is basically just another way of saying you were 80 under the estimated cal burn for your activity level. So if say for example the 'sedentary' is another way of saying 1400 cals, then today you only burnt 1320, hence why it is -80 adjustment on your daily activity. The fact that you worked out at gym for 400 is a separate thing.
  719856
November 21, 2012 4:58 AM
Dear MFP

I think it's great that you guys listened to everyone and that in as little as a month after adding the negative feature you then gave people the option to opt in or out. Pretty good going. Nice to know voices are heard.

Anyway I like the negative feature so will keep it.
Edited by pyrowill On November 21, 2012 4:58 AM
  719856
November 21, 2012 5:29 AM
Like everyone else, I think it is great that we have a choice. Even better is your very clear post that explains why I might want to choose one option over the other. Thank you for making this as uncomplicated as possible.
  29509817
November 21, 2012 8:17 AM
Thank You for listening to the users. I will be opting out as fitbit only support bluetooth 4 on Idevices.
  13619548
November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
QUOTE:

I am still a bit confused...how many calories does myfitnesspal figure is an average for me?

Today is a perfect example...worked all day at desk job ...then went to gym for 1 hr...came home tonight at 9pm and synced...and it gave me an -80 adjustment. Yet the excercise machines say I burned over 400 calories.
It says i walked 4.29 miles and did 9,557 steps...i haven't even eaten 1200 calories today...so I am really wondering why a negative. How many calories or miles does myfitness pal expect me to burn on an average day I don't go to the gym.

I know I see comments that only syncing once at end of day can have an effect...I don't understand why it does...but I guess this is what is happening.
Danna


Hi Danna, other users pointed out that you would find what mfp expects you to burn in your "mfp goals" page, it is called something like calories burned from normal activity. They figure it by multiplying your bmr by a number. The number is specific to which of the four activity levels you choose. I.E. if you are set for sedentary, it multiples your bmr by 1.25 (I think). So even the sedentary assumes a certain amount of activity over what you would burn existing and in the morning we usually haven't burned enough as we were at a lower activity level while sleeping. So it does matter, your last question, on why it matters if you only sync at the end of the day because mfp uses your calorie burn on fitbit to calculate the adjustments, if you haven't synched the fitbit then it looks like you were in bed all day so you would see negative adjustments as you wouldn't meet the 1.25 times your bmr level until after you sync. This makes it hard for people to plan what they eat, in the end it probably works out, but people generally want to see the positive adjustment early enough in the day that it can effect what they can eat.
November 21, 2012 8:45 AM
Great news! The negatives seem to work okay for me, but it is really nice that you are giving us a choice.
November 21, 2012 9:05 AM
I am going to try negatives also.
November 21, 2012 9:37 AM
I opted back in - I think the negative is better it reflects my reality, but its good you gave the options - too many people did not like it and it was giving FItBit too much negative comments
  19361481
November 21, 2012 10:04 AM
After hearing so many people moaning about this, I was expecting to see hundreds of happy responses. Seems like a lot of people are happy with it now.
  482223
November 21, 2012 10:45 AM
Funny, the only people responding to this are the ones who liked the negative adjustment! I've opted back in...I prefer to see a realistic assessment of my daily activity. Great that MFP listened to everyone who didn't like it.
November 21, 2012 10:54 AM
Thank you for this, I'm going to try it now and see how I like it (I had unlynced my Fitbit weeks ago)
  25692978
November 21, 2012 12:59 PM
Thank you for giving us options.
November 21, 2012 1:26 PM
QUOTE:

Funny, the only people responding to this are the ones who liked the negative adjustment! I've opted back in...I prefer to see a realistic assessment of my daily activity. Great that MFP listened to everyone who didn't like it.


Ditto. I've opted in too :)
  26109985
November 22, 2012 6:25 AM
This does go to show that the MFP staff do listen to popular requests on the forums. Well done to you.

Personally I will keep myself opted in. I have the new Fitbit One that talks very nicely to my phone throughout the day.

Thanks again for the option.

Steve
  25125890
November 23, 2012 6:15 PM
Thanks, I stayed opted in since I am sedentary for the majority of the day & haven't really started to exercise yet. I sync first thing in the moring before I leave the house so that I know what calories I have for the day. If I exercise I know I can eat a little bit more at dinner time. I feel activity plays a big roll in whether or not you lose weight so it makes sense that your calories would change day to day & not stay the same.
  10250520
November 24, 2012 10:25 AM
I am glad that MFP provided the option as I do not wish the negative adjustments.

I am going to disconnect my fitbit, though, as I think I just want to log food and exercise in separate apps.
Edited by Gidgiee1 On November 24, 2012 10:27 AM

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