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November 20, 2012 4:27 PM
Dear MyFitnessPal Users of Fitbit, BodyMedia, MIO, and Striiv,

We've been looking closely at the question of how best to incorporate the calorie data from these devices. While we have further improvements on the way, we're announcing an update today that will let you customize the way your tracker's data affects your daily calorie goal.

We've added a setting that controls how calorie adjustments lower than zero are accounted for in your Exercise Diary.

A negative calorie adjustment means that your projected calorie burn for the day from the partner is below MyFitnessPal's initial estimate. By default, negative calorie adjustments will now be changed to a value of zero. If you prefer, you may opt to enable negative calorie adjustments to appear, which will decrease your food calorie goal on low-activity days.

We recommend leaving negative adjustments off, if:
- you do not expect to wear your tracking device consistently
- your device can only sync occasionally, or only late in the day
- you wish to use the device only for the motivational experience of earning additional calories from exercise

We recommend enabling negative adjustments if:
- you expect to wear your tracking device consistently
- your device is able to sync its data multiple times over the course of the day
- you would like the most accurate calorie feedback MyFitnessPal can provide

To enable negative calorie adjustments, log in to your account at http://www.myfitnesspal.com, then go to My Home > Settings > Diary settings.

For more information on MyFitnessPal's integration with each partner, please visit MyFitnessPal's Help section:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/help/section/65-fitbit-integration
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/help/section/76-bodymedia-fit-integration
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/help/section/100-mio-active-connect-integration
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/help/section/125-striiv-smart-pedometer-integration

Regards,
Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff
November 20, 2012 6:20 PM
Thank you very much for doing this! I wasn't happy with the unannounced change a few weeks ago for several reasons, but I gladly give you much credit for listening to your customers. You've proved once again why MFP is so great. Again, many thanks!

Lee Lauridsen
Lawrence, Kansas
  23643770
November 21, 2012 12:23 AM
Thanks for the option - Just tested this (Opted out by default) and where normally on returning from the gym I would typically see a proportion of calories deducted once I'd entered in logged cycling, and (unlogged) swimming from today's session - it has indeed settled at 0 from the original adjustment of 182 when I first connected them.

I suspect within a matter of a couple of syncs, it will be in the positive, which is the norm on a day started at the gym.
Will also test tomorrow where I tend to have a lie in and just do stretches on a rest day - I will expect to see the positive only come in much later in the day.

My real value from this site is planning my day to my calorie goal (assuming NO extras) and this has been serving me very well so far.

Thanks for listening to your user-base.
  26587270
November 21, 2012 12:29 AM
TYVM :)

My food plan is set to BMR calories,(1710) and my plan is to always eat that even if i haven't worked out, to give me a sustainabe healthy lifestyle rather than a diet. Having a negative adjustment on rest days was frustrating, because it was taking away calories i knew i was going to eat anyway.

Thanks again!
  28074240
November 21, 2012 2:39 AM
Thank you for this. Such a dramatic change in the way things are calculated really is best done on an "opt-in" basis.

I do think the description is still a little confusing, especially for anyone new to the site that has not gone through the last few weeks. I'm sure that will be refined though :)

Thanks for listening!
November 21, 2012 8:59 AM
Awesome "tweak" to the system.!!!!! Thank You!
November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
QUOTE:

Thank you for this. Such a dramatic change in the way things are calculated really is best done on an "opt-in" basis.

I do think the description is still a little confusing, especially for anyone new to the site that has not gone through the last few weeks. I'm sure that will be refined though :)

Thanks for listening!


I agree because im new and have no idea what hes talking about!
  32059001
November 21, 2012 9:35 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Thank you for this. Such a dramatic change in the way things are calculated really is best done on an "opt-in" basis.

I do think the description is still a little confusing, especially for anyone new to the site that has not gone through the last few weeks. I'm sure that will be refined though :)

Thanks for listening!


I agree because im new and have no idea what hes talking about!


The negative calorie adjustments affect only those users who have chosen to integrate their MyFitnessPal account with one of our integration partners - http://www.myfitnesspal.com/apps

The help links in the original post each have a section about "Calorie Adjustments" that may shed some light on the way the data from our integration partners is used in conjunction with MyFitnessPal. In brief. these devices can give MyFitnessPal information allowing us to raise (or lower) a user's expected calorie goal, based on actual tracked activity levels these devices record and report.
November 21, 2012 10:00 AM
I'm still a bit confused as to which option I should use - have added comments at the end of each point:

We recommend leaving negative adjustments off, if:
- you do not expect to wear your tracking device consistently - I wear mine constantly
- your device can only sync occasionally, or only late in the day - see comment below

We recommend enabling negative adjustments if:
- you expect to wear your tracking device consistently - I wear mine constantly
- your device is able to sync its data multiple times over the course of the day - I sync mine once I get home from work but it can then sync a few times during the evening so is this classed as multiple or should I just stick with not enabling?
November 21, 2012 10:10 AM
my syncing's been just fine. I set both mfp and bodymedia to the same goal (lose 1/2lb per week and very active)- even though the base calories that the day begin with are different (mfp says 1800 something and bodymedia says 2100 something) the bodymedia adjusts the mfp goal up to what my estimated burn is for the day. I don't have a link, so they don't sync multiple times throughout the day- I'll plug in the bmf in the morning and let it sync (and therefore let bodymedia adjust mfp to my esimated burn for the day) and then plug it in again in the evening before dinner to let it readjust if needed. Has worked out seamlessly so far!
  5347022
November 21, 2012 10:54 AM
QUOTE:

I'm still a bit confused as to which option I should use - have added comments at the end of each point:

We recommend leaving negative adjustments off, if:
- you do not expect to wear your tracking device consistently - I wear mine constantly
- your device can only sync occasionally, or only late in the day - see comment below

We recommend enabling negative adjustments if:
- you expect to wear your tracking device consistently - I wear mine constantly
- your device is able to sync its data multiple times over the course of the day - I sync mine once I get home from work but it can then sync a few times during the evening so is this classed as multiple or should I just stick with not enabling?


I would stay opted out - the fact you sync late in the day means you would get loads of "negative calories" and if you base your evening meal on this, you will probably find later in the evening that you have a huge number you could have used and haven't eaten enough.

Other opinions may vary!
November 21, 2012 2:45 PM
I have just logged into MFP and the weight loss badge and ticker have reset themselves back to zero. It should be showing a 14lb weight loss. Has anyone else experienced this before and what do I need to do to correct this. All my weigh ins are still recorded.
  19095349
November 22, 2012 3:02 AM
QUOTE:

Thanks for the option - Just tested this (Opted out by default) and where normally on returning from the gym I would typically see a proportion of calories deducted once I'd entered in logged cycling, and (unlogged) swimming from today's session - it has indeed settled at 0 from the original adjustment of 182 when I first connected them.

I suspect within a matter of a couple of syncs, it will be in the positive, which is the norm on a day started at the gym.
Will also test tomorrow where I tend to have a lie in and just do stretches on a rest day - I will expect to see the positive only come in much later in the day.

My real value from this site is planning my day to my calorie goal (assuming NO extras) and this has been serving me very well so far.

Thanks for listening to your user-base.


Yep - 2nd day of opting out - woke up a good couple of hours later than normal, did stretches and light core work only, and not surprisingly, it has taken a good few hours to get to a single digit positive value - which is pretty much what I expected...

Good to know that with the opting out - I get to see a realistic positive.
  26587270
November 22, 2012 3:54 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Thanks for the option - Just tested this (Opted out by default) and where normally on returning from the gym I would typically see a proportion of calories deducted once I'd entered in logged cycling, and (unlogged) swimming from today's session - it has indeed settled at 0 from the original adjustment of 182 when I first connected them.

I suspect within a matter of a couple of syncs, it will be in the positive, which is the norm on a day started at the gym.
Will also test tomorrow where I tend to have a lie in and just do stretches on a rest day - I will expect to see the positive only come in much later in the day.

My real value from this site is planning my day to my calorie goal (assuming NO extras) and this has been serving me very well so far.

Thanks for listening to your user-base.


Yep - 2nd day of opting out - woke up a good couple of hours later than normal, did stretches and light core work only, and not surprisingly, it has taken a good few hours to get to a single digit positive value - which is pretty much what I expected...

Good to know that with the opting out - I get to see a realistic positive.


So you mean you've Opted IN then? IN is for negative cals.....?
  719856
November 22, 2012 3:58 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Thanks for the option - Just tested this (Opted out by default) and where normally on returning from the gym I would typically see a proportion of calories deducted once I'd entered in logged cycling, and (unlogged) swimming from today's session - it has indeed settled at 0 from the original adjustment of 182 when I first connected them.

I suspect within a matter of a couple of syncs, it will be in the positive, which is the norm on a day started at the gym.
Will also test tomorrow where I tend to have a lie in and just do stretches on a rest day - I will expect to see the positive only come in much later in the day.

My real value from this site is planning my day to my calorie goal (assuming NO extras) and this has been serving me very well so far.

Thanks for listening to your user-base.


Yep - 2nd day of opting out - woke up a good couple of hours later than normal, did stretches and light core work only, and not surprisingly, it has taken a good few hours to get to a single digit positive value - which is pretty much what I expected...

Good to know that with the opting out - I get to see a realistic positive.


So you mean you've Opted IN then? IN is for negative cals.....?

No... opted out and reckoned that it would take me until half way through the day before my adjustment went from zero to anything different.
I was just assuming that it would be so, and therefore remain a realistic addition to my exercise calories which is a touch more motivational (to me anyway) than seeing those exercise calories wiped out and having to watch the thing creep up gradually.
Edited by rfsatar On November 22, 2012 3:59 AM
  26587270
November 25, 2012 7:58 PM
Okay what would I need to do then? I am looking to keep it showing me if my workout is correct with MFP. my bodymedia is some times lower than what MFP gives me and I was loving that it showed me the true loss I had. Would that be Opt in then? because when i went to do that it still keeps it at 0. So I am a little lost :) thanks for the help
  31525512
November 29, 2012 8:22 PM
I opted out, and now when the fitbit syncs, the calories I burned that day show up like they used to, but then a day or two later I look and those amounts have reverted to zero. Is that right? Not sure of the value of linking even with this change... may either just add manually like I did before I got the fitbit or start using the fitbit site, or is this what it's supposed to do??
  20430403
December 16, 2012 9:17 AM
Hi Steven,

When I use my fitbit and log activity records, is there a way that MFP could publish those workouts/exercises? It would be nice to see them on the home page of MFP -just an additional piece of motivation which would help!
December 29, 2012 10:22 AM
Hello.

I have a few questions that I will explain in an example:

My daily calorie intake is 1290. I've eaten breakfast for 289. I exercised and burned 180 calories. My daily calorie intake then changes to about 1470. It has increased by the same amount as the exercise.

Why is this happening? Don't I still only need to eat 1290 calories for the entire day and still loose weight? Do I have to eat the extra calories so I don't go into starvation mode? If I eat the extra calories does that mean I stay at the same weight and not loose anything?

I'm guessing that this means since i'm exercising that my body needs the extra calories on top of my normal daily calorie intake so that I don't go into starvation mode, and that i'm still going to loose weight. But, I would really appreciate a clarification of this before I get down the road a few weeks into this.

Thank you
December 29, 2012 10:25 AM
awesome thanks
December 29, 2012 10:29 AM
QUOTE:

Hello.

I have a few questions that I will explain in an example:

My daily calorie intake is 1290. I've eaten breakfast for 289. I exercised and burned 180 calories. My daily calorie intake then changes to about 1470. It has increased by the same amount as the exercise.

Why is this happening? Don't I still only need to eat 1290 calories for the entire day and still loose weight? Do I have to eat the extra calories so I don't go into starvation mode? If I eat the extra calories does that mean I stay at the same weight and not loose anything?

I'm guessing that this means since i'm exercising that my body needs the extra calories on top of my normal daily calorie intake so that I don't go into starvation mode, and that i'm still going to loose weight. But, I would really appreciate a clarification of this before I get down the road a few weeks into this.

Thank you


If you set yourself up to lose weight at my home > settings > update diet / fitness profile then your daily calorie goal is for FOOD alone with the deficit as part of your goal to lose at your chosen rate of loss 0.5 1 1.5 or 2 lbs per week. MFP doesn't 'believe' your planned exercise figures and these are ignored in calculating your daily goal. Try it. Plan 0 minutes of exercise and view daily goal. Now plan 3600 minutes of exercise and view the identical calorie goal. WHEN you log the exercise as "complete" on a given day via exercise > CARDIO > add exercise and enter the "how long (in minutes)" you worked out you'll have the calories added... your daily goal already has the deficit to lose weight (if you set up for losing weight) so you CAN eat back those calories and keep your deficit for weight loss intact.
  3335912
December 29, 2012 12:37 PM
I just got a Fitbit One for Christmas and I connected it to MFP. My normal calorie allowance is 1800 but now it's got this negative 500-some calories! I read this opt in stuff and nothing changes whether I flag that negative calories thing in settings or not. What am I missing? Perhaps someday I 'll agree to lose 500 calories a day but not now. How do I turn this thing off for real?

France

Oops, forget that. I just realized that it's just doing what it normally does with exercise; it's adding to my calorie allowance, not subtracting. Sorry. My bad.
Edited by frapilu On December 29, 2012 12:39 PM
January 2, 2013 6:49 PM
Steven - I have Fitbit and MFP integrated. I train on an elliptical machine each day. Today I logged 40 min and burned 460 calories. I have the negative calorie adjustment enabled. I take the Fitbit OFF when I use the elliptical trainer. I don't belive I have been less active today, yet I have a -460 calorie adjustment. Am I doing something incorrect? Should I wear the Fitbit on the elliptical? Will it double up my activity or b/c I am stationary it won't "know" I'm exercising. Thanks.

-Kim
January 3, 2013 7:50 PM
I am currently syncing with Fitbit. Should I still be manually punching in the exercises/cardio workouts that I do or does Fitbit/MyfitnessPal do this already? Thanks!
January 9, 2013 1:05 PM
Hello, I chose to connect my endomondo acct to my MFP acct today.and I dont see the info, os there somethong I need to do this.n ,
sorry on my phone, will this sync later , ty

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