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November 17, 2012 7:44 PM
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Really? i've been here for a year, and I haven't seen rude posters or trolls being "moderated." Generally people are pretty supportive here, but the the ones who aren't aren't really told to stop, or aren't moderated in any way I can see.


Actually, if anyone was paying attention and read this entire thread, they'd notice 3 or so posts have been pulled from it...

Your moderators in action, thank you.
November 17, 2012 7:46 PM
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Really? i've been here for a year, and I haven't seen rude posters or trolls being "moderated." Generally people are pretty supportive here, but the the ones who aren't aren't really told to stop, or aren't moderated in any way I can see.


Actually, if anyone was paying attention and read this entire thread, they'd notice 3 or so posts have been pulled from it...

Your moderators in action, thank you.


Nice spot.
  18358448
November 17, 2012 7:50 PM
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...because I love a good post where we can all collectively come together and put down the "mean people" for nonspecific, general violations of some code of conduct...(but often for nothing more than disagreeing with an OP in a thread). Even better if we can call the "mean people" names along the way.


Well....I think you are mean just for saying that....bully!


Oh yeah!?

I should send you a FR...(that you would obviously accept because I'm so awesome)...and then remove you from my FL. (FYI, I get bonus mean points if I can make you cry.)
  8625464
November 17, 2012 7:50 PM
I totally agree, it's really quite awful, I mostly stay away from the forums. I came here from Sparkpeople, it has a wonderful, supportive community but the tracking, smart phone app and the range of foods available are just not up to scratch. MFP has them beat hands down for ease of use. My point is that a supportive community is possible... I don't know why MFP isn't.
November 17, 2012 7:51 PM
What you don't seem to understand is how effective the "rudeness" is at dispelling dangerous advice. This site is not *just* about motivation and support, it deals with sensitive subjects that can impact people's health- positively or negatively- and attracts a lot of people that are dealing with eating disorders. Some people are trying to recover, and some people try to encourage eating disorders. Without the "rude" self policing of these topics, there wouldn't be enough moderators in the world to keep a lid on some of the behaviors. As-is, the people already use this site to find each other and encourage REALLY dangerous diet and exercise practices. If you'd like a picture of what *could* happen, go fish around tumblr for a while. Motivation and support is not the only purpose of this site. I would much rather be considered rude and help people with actual problems than universally supportive and willfully ignorant of people hurting themselves.
  20711900
November 17, 2012 7:53 PM
Im new but i havent found anything rude. Im here to get healthy, not be miss popular...........Id hope other people are the same?
  32059001
November 17, 2012 7:54 PM
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...because I love a good post where we can all collectively come together and put down the "mean people" for nonspecific, general violations of some code of conduct...(but often for nothing more than disagreeing with an OP in a thread). Even better if we can call the "mean people" names along the way.


Well....I think you are mean just for saying that....bully!


Oh yeah!?

I should send you a FR...(that you would obviously accept because I'm so awesome)...and then remove you from my FL. (FYI, I get bonus mean points if I can make you cry.)


Then I could post a thread about it - it would be awesome!
  18358448
November 17, 2012 8:03 PM
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Im new but i havent found anything rude. Im here to get healthy, not be miss popular...........Id hope other people are the same?



Absolutely agree with this!
  31335336
November 17, 2012 8:16 PM
Exactly what do you want the mods to do? There are people who have been completely denied the privilege of using the forums all together. There have been people who have received strikes for the most trivial reasons.

The report/block features have been set in place to address negativity, but its not like they can stop them from happening. There is no way to know who will say something offensive until someone posts something and someone else gets offended.

To be honest, I am sick of seeing these "big meanies in the forums" type threads. You are an adult, but you are crying like a child because you aren't satisfied with the mods decisions on how to deal with certain individuals. Seems to me that you are the one who is acting like they are in junior high. Grown folks just avoid the people that upset them. They don't whine about it.
  7030416
November 17, 2012 8:29 PM
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Exactly what do you want the mods to do? There are people who have been completely denied the privilege of using the forums all together. There have been people who have received strikes for the most trivial reasons.

The report/block features have been set in place to address negativity, but its not like they can stop them from happening. There is no way to know who will say something offensive until someone posts something and someone else gets offended.

To be honest, I am sick of seeing these "big meanies in the forums" type threads. You are an adult, but you are crying like a child because you aren't satisfied with the mods decisions on how to deal with certain individuals. Seems to me that you are the one who is acting like they are in junior high. Grown folks just avoid the people that upset them. They don't whine about it.


Well...

That was a very mean post.
  8625464
November 17, 2012 8:35 PM
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Its beyond that Dan. Its more than one person reporting posts and seeing no results. The point of this site is motivation and the social aspects. All i see in the forums is diet attacking, unwelcoming posts, who is the hottest, who would you date, etc. Its like this is junior high.


All I can say is the "moderators" are on vacation (or non-existent) and have been for quite some time.


All I can say is that I don't think you know what you're talking about and are spreading lies.


Really? i've been here for a year, and I haven't seen rude posters or trolls being "moderated." Generally people are pretty supportive here, but the the ones who aren't aren't really told to stop, or aren't moderated in any way I can see.


You are incorrect about the moderators. I've notified them of issues and they dealt with it swiftly every time. I think some people need to also remember this a a FREE site so how dare anyone EXPECT anything at all. That is rude in my opinion! Keep up the great job MFP. I love this site, it's saved many many lives and helped many people find good friends, partners, husbands and wives too.
November 17, 2012 8:42 PM
This forum is the one of the milder and, quite frankly, nicest one I've ever visited. I've never had a problem with rude people here *knocks on wood*.
November 17, 2012 8:45 PM
Seeing the subject had me intrigued.........I only joined this site in last couple of months and can honestly say that I have not seen or experienced any of what you mention.
I am blown away by the generosity and support of the ppl that are my MFP's, so I feel for you if you see this other side!
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Pat
  30199788
November 17, 2012 8:52 PM
Sometimes I think rudeness comes into play when someone asks a question that has been asked a million times before. The first time a newbie freaks out about gaining 10 lbs overnight, you give a long, detailed response. By the 30th time, you just want to type "It's not fat, it's water. Chillax." But than can easily come across as dismissive.
  21619196
November 17, 2012 10:43 PM
If you're dissatisfied with the forums and the moderators, maybe you should ask MFP to refund all of the money you paid for using this site.
  24798011
November 17, 2012 10:53 PM
There will always be people like that, especially in places so inpersonal as online forums; people get really brave. and i cant blame a few of the veterans on this site for losing it on a few of the noobs from time to time. have you seen some of the dumb **** people post? -.-'
November 17, 2012 10:58 PM
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There will always be people like that, especially in places so inpersonal as online forums; people get really brave. and i cant blame a few of the veterans on this site for losing it on a few of the noobs from time to time. have you seen some of the dumb **** people post? -.-'


That reminds me!
I need to pull the "beating a dead horse" gif out of retirement!
  7369177
November 18, 2012 12:06 AM
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Strange you feel that way, because I find this to be one of the most helpful sites on the net. People go out of their way to help others on the path to fitness and health. People tell positive stories of motivation, determination, and success.

I stumbled onto this site when I was at a point in my life where I never thought I would be able to lose the weight that I had spent the previous 5 years gaining. I was considering surgery, diet pills, any and every damn thing. While it was great to have the calorie plan laid out by the MFP software, what really got me invested was the MFP community. ALL of the community. From the fantastic people on my FL, to the intelligent people on the forums dispensing advice, to the people that I vehemently disagree with and enjoy debating, all the way down to the nutbags spewing ridiculousness that I get to shoot down on a daily basis. I love them all. The push/pull is what holds this site together for me. With the assistance of the entire community, from the gurus to the trolls, I went from Can't Do It to Doing It to Did It.

I think people see what they want to see. You see rudeness and people to ignore or report, I see help, support, and the occasional target. I guess this place could be more like Facebook, but then Facebook sucks.


^^^ This.

I go on the forums for information/education. I see some rude comments, but honestly for the most part this site is pretty fantastic. I also kinda don't care about rude people and tend to avoid them or not respond (seems to make them worse) I guess just kinda do the same. You will have that... even in life you run across people like this... every day.
November 23, 2012 1:33 PM
I think it's the anonymity of the internet that gives "permission" to users to post things they would never say to someone face-to-face. This is not the only weight loss website I belong to (I'm checking out a few others), and on all of them, there are some great people, and some nasty ones.

People like to think their opinions are the best, most correct, and the only ones worth hearing. Also, many people use public forums to vent their frustrations in the relative safety of hiding behind a screen name. Unfortunately, immaturity manifests itself on the internet, regardless of the user's age.

Ignore the nasty posts, they aren't worth reading anyway.
November 23, 2012 1:39 PM
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I think it's the anonymity of the internet that gives "permission" to users to post things they would never say to someone face-to-face. This is not the only weight loss website I belong to (I'm checking out a few others), and on all of them, there are some great people, and some nasty ones.

People like to think their opinions are the best, most correct, and the only ones worth hearing. Also, many people use public forums to vent their frustrations in the relative safety of hiding behind a screen name. Unfortunately, immaturity manifests itself on the internet, regardless of the user's age.

Ignore the nasty posts, they aren't worth reading anyway.


Hello OP.

You coulda just "bumped" your thread rather than using your second account for it
  17121359
November 23, 2012 1:57 PM
The moderators do their job.

I've been here a while

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.....and this site is really tame compared to what it was a few years ago. People here are basically nice and will help people - to a point. Eating disorders, fad diets, under eating, cleanses, diet pills and the like are not really suitable for a Fitness site, and will get attacked accordingly.

You think this is bad? Try going to Catforums.com and posting a thread talking about how de-clawing saved your couch. laugh
  5978
November 23, 2012 7:41 PM
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You think this is bad? Try going to Catforums.com and posting a thread talking about how de-clawing saved your couch. laugh


This made me laugh out loud.

I'm a big fan of catsthatlooklikehitler.com. They don't have a forum but they have some pretty funny hatemail posted.
November 23, 2012 8:28 PM
Eh, its the internet your always going to find the high school drama. Its not just kids, even some adults can revert back to "Ego is better than you" attitude and say some pretty hurtful things. I just honestly ignore it and worry about myself and what I am looking to accomplish. "Never Cry Over Spilled Milk' is my motto when someone else has something nasty to say, cuz in all honesty you can't change someones mind if they don't agree with what you you agree in.
  31525512
November 24, 2012 6:51 AM
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I totally agree, it's really quite awful, I mostly stay away from the forums. I came here from Sparkpeople, it has a wonderful, supportive community but the tracking, smart phone app and the range of foods available are just not up to scratch. MFP has them beat hands down for ease of use. My point is that a supportive community is possible... I don't know why MFP isn't.
I guess the experience is what you make of it. I left Spark because I found it wasn't supportive. To each his own.

If you are not getting what you need at a website, then it is time to move on. That is true whether it is MFP, Spark, or any other. The internet is a big place, somewhere you can find the perfect fit. If not, it is pretty easy these days to build your own :) Life is too short to hang out in forums that doing nothing but increase stress.

Edit: I forgot about groups on here. I find most of my support from the groups. If there is already not a rudeness-free zone group, it would easy to start, and I'm sure there would be lots of others joining in.
Edited by Joanitude On November 24, 2012 7:09 AM
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November 24, 2012 6:59 AM
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