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November 6, 2012 2:06 AM
I'm new to the program and it looks great. I weighed myself in this morning and was very accurate at measuring the food and drink I had for breakfast. I even weighed my peanut butter! I was thrilled with the bar code scanner and how it even found the German foods I had on the table!

But then - I wanted to add the 175 ml of milk to my food diary, and it gave me only cups as an option. I searched all over for the "ml" button, but to no avail. I have the app set at metric, but that only gives me my weight ticker in kgs, it seems.

So, I went to the website on my pc and was certain that the answer would be there to find. I did find more options, yes - I could now enter my 175ml of milk in cups, ounces, quarts or grams. (grams??) Still not what I was looking for, I'm afraid. Liquids are measured in liters or fractions thereof. :s

Yes, I could do the math myself, knowing that 1 cup is 250ml and then figuring that 175ml is 0.7% of 1 cup and therefore just shy of 3/4c., BUT needing to do that with a majority of the foods I eat and drink during the day will discourage my dieting attempts using this app very quickly.

My question is: Have I missed the Magic Metric Button in the program, and now seem to be a very silly old person? OR, is this really a shortcoming of the app for us continental Europeans? If it's the latter, I would like to make the suggestion to add a more complete list of metric conversions to the database. Needing to do any conversions by hand during the course of the day risks having items not entered in the diary. It's just human nature.

Thanks for listening!

~Jera
Germany
November 6, 2012 2:48 AM
The food database is almost entirely user-generated. The majority of users of the site are American, and work in cups and ounces, and so the vast majority of database entries are in imperial units. It's not a fault of the site, or the database - it's due to a lack of users who want to deal in metric measurements.

You could always add to the database using mls if you really wanted to, but this would further clutter up an already messy database. Best to use a quick mental conversion as you have referred to in your original post.
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November 6, 2012 3:16 AM
For some staple items (like milk) you could try searching for versions from UK supermarkets (so something like "Tesco Milk") and you'll find a version in ml.

I agree that some of the core items in the database could do with more measurement options.
Edited by dlegros On November 6, 2012 3:17 AM
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November 6, 2012 3:33 AM
I agree with you, Jera07. Hardly a day goes by without somebody asking for simple conversion.

It would:
* eliminate an entire class of duplicates
* help non-metric users. They could use the same food entered by metric users.
* help metric users. They could use the same food entered by non-metric users.

It's trivial in software. If anyone wants to know how to solve it, just look at other diet websites. It's already been solved. Each food has an option to show it in grams or ounces if by weight. Just one click - how difficult is that?.
It's been on the wishlist for this website since at least 13 February 2008.

I hope they get round to doing something about it before another four years go by. This isn't an America versus the world thing. Many Americans use metric at work, including military service. Many Americans use metric for food dieting. Most pre-packed containers in the supermarket are required by US law (FPL Act and others) to have metric units on the label.

In the meantime, you can search for:
"milk ml"
"peanut butter g"
and you'll find metric values.

PS requests are intended as constructive and aren't to be interpreted as disloyal
Edited by mfp_1 On November 6, 2012 3:36 AM
November 6, 2012 4:46 AM
Go on the internet ask "how many ML in a cup. You should find a conversion table there. And than you can adjust it by your diary. Good luck.
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November 6, 2012 4:51 AM
You could also search for your brand of milk
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November 9, 2012 10:49 AM
Yesterday I had a look at my friends iPhone app and she was able to use a rolling display to choose portion size for example she could roll whole numbers and then fractions - eg 1 and a 1/2 .... I thought this was great, in the Website and Android apps you have to enter the data like 1.5 or 0.75 etc.

I have a friend who does not understand how to convert fractions to decimals but she knows how to use a measuring cup. It would be easier if you could choose to add food using either option ie 1/2 vs 0.5 - that would then help those who don't know maths. I know this sounds simple but it isn't for those without basic math skills.

Is this something you are looking at people being able to do on the Website and Android apps? It would be much appreciated.
November 17, 2012 10:56 PM
QUOTE:

Yesterday I had a look at my friends iPhone app and she was able to use a rolling display to choose portion size for example she could roll whole numbers and then fractions - eg 1 and a 1/2 .... I thought this was great, in the Website and Android apps you have to enter the data like 1.5 or 0.75 etc.

I have a friend who does not understand how to convert fractions to decimals but she knows how to use a measuring cup. It would be easier if you could choose to add food using either option ie 1/2 vs 0.5 - that would then help those who don't know maths. I know this sounds simple but it isn't for those without basic math skills.

Is this something you are looking at people being able to do on the Website and Android apps? It would be much appreciated.
December 27, 2012 2:43 AM
How do you know what size cup to use? A tea cup? a coffee cup?
isn't it all unnecessarily confusing?
December 27, 2012 3:14 AM
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How do you know what size cup to use? A tea cup? a coffee cup?
isn't it all unnecessarily confusing?


A cup is not a stab in the dark any old tea cup, coffee cup measurement, its a specific metric measurement of 250 ml


To the op i have been logging here for over a year and really can find everything i want in grams or mils you just have to search for them properly.
Edited by Mads1997 On December 27, 2012 3:18 AM
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