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October 12, 2012 2:54 AM
Be grateful you have been on a low carb diet! Imagine how many carbs you would have eaten if you had not! Accentuate the positive!
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October 12, 2012 3:31 AM
Why the heck do you want to get into ketosis! !! ? ??
October 12, 2012 3:32 AM
so first off as has been mentioned, from your photo you're very pretty and im sure people that know everyone around you thinks the same!

Depending on what your illness is? e.g. cold flu chest infection, your core temp is much higher and your body uses much more calories than normal anyway fighting the illness! your resting calorie count will be between 15-35% higher than if you wernt ill (sorry i cant remember where i read that :s)

Also in regards to shifting the final few lbs, you havent detailed the exercise you do? have you though increasing or changing what you do?

:)
October 12, 2012 3:48 AM
I didn't know that medicine has calories. I've had the flu for 2 weeks and have been living off cold meds. Hopefully, the alkaseltzer cold & flu tabs don't have as much sugar in them!!

I hope you feel better soon. flowerforyou
October 12, 2012 3:49 AM
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The problem is I increased calories from 1200 to 1500 and gained 6 pounds. Dropped again to 1200 calories and lost and then stayed the same. I went and dipped down into 500-900 calorie days a few times a week to see, and I would lose weight, but decided to do it the healthy way and again am gaining on a calorie surplus. I have done a high protein diet before and lost 25 pounds, so FOR ME, that is what works. Being stuck at the same weight for 4 months is a really really depressing situation to be in, despite the different things you've been trying.


You should NOT be trying to place yourself into ketosis when you are ill. The stress will prolong your illness and will probably trigger starvation mode more than anything else. A doctor reading this would be appalled.
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October 12, 2012 3:52 AM
focus on getting well first. then worry about 80 calories of sugar.


health first.
October 12, 2012 3:53 AM
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I'm just pissed off because I'm been trying to get my body into ketosis and I've been essentially no carbs for NO reason then, if this mucinex has 210 cals worth of sugar. I honestly couldn't care less if I have the flu, I've been stuck at this weight for 4 months and am tired of it, I want to lose this weight so badly. If that means suffering until its over and sticking with ketosis then that's what I'm going to have to do. There should be a label for this and the public should be made aware about this type of thing.

That is why ketosis based diets sucks. BRB prolonging my sickness cause I don't want to take medicine that has carbs in it.

Yes, i did that stupid **** in the past.
October 12, 2012 3:57 AM
my father is diabetic and he has to buy his meds made specifically without the sugars in it. you could ask a pharmacist what they recomend. I was shocked to find out my birth control contained sugar! noway
October 12, 2012 7:10 AM
Guys can we not turn this into a "why low carb is bad for you" debate? She's giving low-carbing a shot to get outta a plateau - it'll work or it won't - end of story. This is coming from somebody who eats 250-300 carbs a day but had phenomenal results doing a high-fat, low-carb diet.

She wanted to know how much sugar/alcohol is in her Mucinex. I went to the website and couldn't find anything. 210 calories would be 52g of sugar (since I doubt there is any fat/protein in Mucinex). That is about as much as a can of coke - I find that to be very debatable.

Lastly, you can low carb and not be sick if you eat healthy food.

So how about that debate last night?!
October 12, 2012 7:24 AM
If the only thing you wanted to know about was the calories in cough syrup then I think you found it.

On a side note it does not look like you have that much to lose. I know sometimes people weigh more than they look...blah blah blah. But you look great I think you need to focus more on exercise than on diet for what you are looking for. You want to get rid of body fat and build muscle. Good luck to you. I hope you have some good friends to talk to because you seem to have some body self esteem issues, you need to think about being healthy and feeling great. Get rid of the scale for awhile. Good luck.
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October 12, 2012 9:17 PM
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Guys can we not turn this into a "why low carb is bad for you" debate? She's giving low-carbing a shot to get outta a plateau - it'll work or it won't - end of story. This is coming from somebody who eats 250-300 carbs a day but had phenomenal results doing a high-fat, low-carb diet.

She wanted to know how much sugar/alcohol is in her Mucinex. I went to the website and couldn't find anything. 210 calories would be 52g of sugar (since I doubt there is any fat/protein in Mucinex). That is about as much as a can of coke - I find that to be very debatable.

Lastly, you can low carb and not be sick if you eat healthy food.

So how about that debate last night?!



Thank you.

I do have self esteem issues, I won't deny that. I weighed myself and lost 2 pounds doing this diet so far. Who knows if it would have been more had I not consumed the syrup, but we will see. I don't want to be keto forever, it's not a forever thing.. I would like to simply kickstart back into losing weight and basically being a leaner and smaller version of myself.. The female version of Fields4life without the bulky manness :)

Your body is the only thing you get in this world. It's the only thing you are given and will always have with you. That's like someone giving you a brand new mercedes benz and you graffiting it, putting the cheapest grade fuel in it, not changing the oil, and essentially being a very irresponsible vehicle owner.

Your body is your one vehicle. You get ONE shot at life. So why is striving to have your body be the best and healthiest and sleekist it can possibly be such a bad thing? If you had a choice of driving around a rust bucket piece of **** that wasn't reliable and looked horrible, verses a brand new luxary vehicle that was beautiful and always reliable, which would you choose?

That's why this is so important to me. I don't have any other way to describe it. And this analogy is coming from a girl who rebuilt an old BMW, so I know cars and this is the best I could relate it to.
  18954088
October 12, 2012 9:27 PM
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I feel absolutely terrible right now, and if I weren't trying so hard to get into ketosis I probably wouldn't care. I just am longing for cereal or cookies or chocolate or orange juice/apple juice, and I can't have any because I can't consume any sugars/carbs. So to know how much effort (I am a HUGE chocolate/cake/cookie addict, like binging on the stuff) I have put into eating a clean ketosis diet and then seeing I am consuming something that will completely negate all I've worked for and had willpower for, I feel defeated.


I understand where your coming from. Re-read what you wrote though. Your longing for cookies or chocolate. Is this the kind of life your devoted to stick by? Or is it after you lose the weight, your free to eat these foods again. Itll put you back in the same yoyo. Im not bashing you at all, but Ive been there where you are. Struggling so hard as weeks go by to lose weight and you feel like the past week was a complete loss because of a mishap. Dont take things so seriously. Calories in vs calories out is more important than macronutrients.
October 12, 2012 9:32 PM
get well first, worry about the cals later! :) FEEL BETTER SOON!!! flowerforyou
  25788035
October 12, 2012 9:36 PM
Well said.

Yes, I know what it's like to be plateaued, forever. Very frustrating. Although, probably, your body composition has been changing -- your waist may be smaller, for instance.

And yes, they ought to label the stuff properly, to enable people to make an informed decision. Sigh.

But if you're looking for low-carb cold remedies, check out the diabetic section of your drug store. They're out there!

(I like to get the lemonade flavor of Emergen-C, and make it up with hot water.)
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October 12, 2012 9:36 PM
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I feel absolutely terrible right now, and if I weren't trying so hard to get into ketosis I probably wouldn't care. I just am longing for cereal or cookies or chocolate or orange juice/apple juice, and I can't have any because I can't consume any sugars/carbs. So to know how much effort (I am a HUGE chocolate/cake/cookie addict, like binging on the stuff) I have put into eating a clean ketosis diet and then seeing I am consuming something that will completely negate all I've worked for and had willpower for, I feel defeated.


I understand where your coming from. Re-read what you wrote though. Your longing for cookies or chocolate. Is this the kind of life your devoted to stick by? Or is it after you lose the weight, your free to eat these foods again. Itll put you back in the same yoyo. Im not bashing you at all, but Ive been there where you are. Struggling so hard as weeks go by to lose weight and you feel like the past week was a complete loss because of a mishap. Dont take things so seriously. Calories in vs calories out is more important than macronutrients.


The point is though that longing to eat huge unhealthy amounts of those items is what got me here to begin with. I'm on day 4 of my keto diet and I am not craving sugar, cookies, or chocolate. I've turned down chocolate and cookies. There are boxes of cookies and junk (chips ahoy, oreo, keebler elf, m&m cookies, chocolate chip cookies, chips, chocolate, cupcakes, sugary cereals, soda) in the house and I haven't had to fight or use any willpower to stay away from them. I'm simply NOT craving them. When I get down to where I want to be I am going to eat fresh fruits to compensate for always wanting that sugary corn syrup stuff. I'll make it to where I can eat those things a few times a month, but for the first time in my life I am not feigning for something sugary and processed or going nuts because I haven't had any pop tarts or soda today. I actually am craving healthy foods and feel better. Granted I still have this cold/flu/virus thing, but I feel a difference in my body compared to when I would include tons of carbs in my diet each day, which ultimately lead me to be stuck at this plateau to begin with.
  18954088
October 12, 2012 9:38 PM
I'm living on cold meds and cough drops myself at the moment. No fun!!!

I understand how frustrating this is for you. I had a ED in high school and college. I still find it very easy to fall back into old habits from that time in my life. It sounds like you have done research and are staying connected with people so I don't think you are being silly in your diet plans BUT I do think having a therapist or someone to talk to about your ED and self esteem issues would help you. You are beautiful!!!! You need to know that!
Edited by mycrazy8splus1 On October 12, 2012 9:46 PM
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October 12, 2012 9:48 PM
I can sympathize with the cold. I had one from last Wednesday to the Monday of this week. As to calories... I was feeling silly when I noticed the cough drops had calories listed. At first I decided it didn't matter which ones I had, I wouldn't have enough for it to matter, and I went for the best tasting ones. Later, when I found I was eating them like candy because I was miserable I changed my tune. I got some I didn't like, and that had very few calories. I was still popping them like candy. I have to add I didn't really go over my calories for most days. I was rather miserable to eat or cook or even scavenge around my kitchen. I worked and slept.

On the other hand, I have clients who are diabetic. So I do know that there is sugar free cough syrup around. It's not easy to find, and I think it's only one brand (I was shopping in Big Y, the selection might be greater in a pharmacy), but it's there. If it matters, it's worth switching (which is why I switched cough drops, because it did matter to me that one was twenty calories per drop and the other was five calories).

Don't get discouraged! Thankfully colds go away and we can go back to our best laid plans with a less cottony feeling brain...
Edited by SongDragon On October 12, 2012 9:51 PM
October 13, 2012 7:12 AM
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Ah, at least that explains where the 210 comes from, thanks!

14 teaspoons is a dose????? Wow! If you imagine each of those is basically a spoon of sugar......


Yeah, that does look strange.
My mistake, dosage is 20 mL which is 4 not 14 teaspoons.

60 cals per dosage. not 210.
Edited by EvgeniZyntx On October 13, 2012 7:12 AM
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October 23, 2012 5:15 PM
I may have missed it...need a cite for the finding that Mucinex fast max is only 60 cal instead of 210. Seems so unlikely that 210 cal would be packed into 20 ml...and disappointing.
October 23, 2012 5:25 PM
Try Mucinex tablets instead of syrup. There are plenty of pill formulas that should do the trick without all the sugar. Good luck and get well! I swear by home made chicken soup with lots of spice and herbal tea (yes, I'm sick right now too) flowerforyou
October 23, 2012 5:50 PM
I scanned my medications and vitamins for sh!ts and giggles too and realised that there are quite alot of vitamins and medications containing calories.

My thoughts are that I'm taking medication for a reason and it's only a short term thing so the benefits I will get from these outweigh any extra calories.

Take fish oil for example, I take this every day as a supplement and each capsule contains approximately 10 calories. Again, it's about weighing up the benefits.

Hope you feel better soon.
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