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October 8, 2012 11:57 AM
I created a thread, "would vegetarians/vegans eat meat if:", it was a legitimate question of mine and I posted it under the proper area, and last I checked there were 4 pages of overall relevant posts and minimal bashing. So why was the thread deleted rather than locked? Some threads are just locked and not deleted, and I think some consistency should be encouraged. Frankly I'm a little dissapointed I didn't get to read all of the responses because a vegan's point of view is something I could never fathom, and there were some very insightful responses on that thread.

Should it have been deleted? I don't think so. Locked? Idk, guess thats up to your discretion.
October 8, 2012 12:09 PM
I know! I replied to a thread today about Nikknak85 and the whole thread got deleted. Twice. Why?? There was nothing wrong about it. No bad language, no nude pics, no cussing.

Seems like the moderaters don't have a lot to do so go on deleting threads for no good reason?
October 8, 2012 12:21 PM
A thread of mine was totally deleted today for no reason, too. What the heck?
Edited by RebelliousRibbons On October 8, 2012 12:21 PM
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October 8, 2012 12:22 PM
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I know! I replied to a thread today about Nikknak85 and the whole thread got deleted. Twice. Why?? There was nothing wrong about it. No bad language, no nude pics, no cussing.

Seems like the moderaters don't have a lot to do so go on deleting threads for no good reason?


LOL. That was my thread! And yeah, no clue why that got deleted. -.- We were just concerned and confused friends. Who, apparently, were fooled.
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October 8, 2012 12:23 PM
Is it possible its just a glitch in the system instead? Why not have the writers of the thread contact MFP and ask which rule was broken. I think the posters comments should be deleted and they should be blocked from commenting for so many days if they are causing a problem, not the OP if they have a serioud question or post.
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October 8, 2012 12:23 PM
They will delete anything controversial. this will probably be deleted too/
  15059117
October 8, 2012 12:23 PM
I agree, I was reading that thread and was finding some interesting points of view...went to the next page and Poof, gone. That drives me crazy!

Why aren't the mods more uniform? Some will lock it and tell you why and delete the offending posts. That is not as bad, at least the relevant conversation is still there for people to see. Image not displayed
October 8, 2012 12:24 PM
I was so upset! I used to be a vegetarian, and now I'm not, so I was really looking forward to the conversation! I read the first page, clicked to see the second- NOTHING.
  24798011
October 8, 2012 12:38 PM
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Is it possible its just a glitch in the system instead?

Hi. I'm the glitch. Nice to meet you.
October 8, 2012 12:43 PM
Its against mfp rules for anyone to disagree with someone else or your thread gets removed
October 8, 2012 12:58 PM
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Its against mfp rules for anyone to disagree with someone else or your thread gets removed


That's not entirely true.
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October 8, 2012 1:04 PM
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Its against mfp rules for anyone to disagree with someone else or your thread gets removed


That's not entirely true.

Technically, it is true, sadly.

The "Community Guidelines" (obviously written by someone who couldn't spell "law school," let alone graduate from same), indirectly forbid "divisive topics" in the main forum. In other words, only topics in which everyone agrees are allowed in the main forum.

Because that is clearly realistic.

This thread will be deleted as well, as we are not allowed to "air grievances with moderators." They don't like being challenged.
Edited by GorillaEsq On October 8, 2012 1:05 PM
October 8, 2012 1:09 PM
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Its against mfp rules for anyone to disagree with someone else or your thread gets removed


That's not entirely true.

Technically, it is true, sadly.

The "Community Guidelines" (obviously written by someone who couldn't spell "law school," let alone graduate from same), indirectly forbid "divisive topics" in the main forum. In other words, only topics in which everyone agrees are allowed in the main forum.

Because that is clearly realistic.

This thread will be deleted as well, as we are not allowed to "air grievances with moderators." They don't like being challenged.


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October 8, 2012 1:11 PM
I'm under the mindset that those that wish to be moderators were Hall Monitors in school... and had to eat lunch by themselves. It's their way of seeking revenge for swirlies, noogies, and wedgies. grumble
October 8, 2012 1:11 PM
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Its against mfp rules for anyone to disagree with someone else or your thread gets removed


That's not entirely true.

Technically, it is true, sadly.

LMAO!
The "Community Guidelines" (obviously written by someone who couldn't spell "law school," let alone graduate from same), indirectly forbid "divisive topics" in the main forum. In other words, only topics in which everyone agrees are allowed in the main forum.

Because that is clearly realistic.

This thread will be deleted as well, as we are not allowed to "air grievances with moderators." They don't like being challenged.


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October 8, 2012 1:28 PM
i completely disagree with ur view
October 8, 2012 2:09 PM
If all divisive topics were actually removed, there would be nothing much to read about at all on these forums. Anything and everything can cause a difference of opinion round here....
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October 8, 2012 2:10 PM
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i completely disagree with ur view


I disagree with your use of "ur".

*watches thread swirl down the drain*
  24798011
October 8, 2012 2:18 PM
It would be more useful if the moderator were to post on the thread, announcing the thread was being locked, and explaining how the thread violates the rules, and then lock it for 24 hours and then delete it. This is how it's done on forums of other sites that I use - it works quite well, and gives the members more of an understanding of how the site works.
October 8, 2012 2:21 PM
He just deleted my "Everyone Must Agree" thread. Which is odd. Everyone agreed.
October 8, 2012 2:35 PM
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He just deleted my "Everyone Must Agree" thread. Which is odd. Everyone agreed.


The agreement on that thread was unanimous except for one.
October 8, 2012 2:35 PM
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It would be more useful if the moderator were to post on the thread, announcing the thread was being locked, and explaining how the thread violates the rules, and then lock it for 24 hours and then delete it. This is how it's done on forums of other sites that I use - it works quite well, and gives the members more of an understanding of how the site works.


Some of the mods here actually do that. I've seen locked threads that say they may/will be deleted, but some just disappear.
  24798011
October 8, 2012 2:46 PM
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I created a thread, "would vegetarians/vegans eat meat if:", it was a legitimate question of mine and I posted it under the proper area, and last I checked there were 4 pages of overall relevant posts and minimal bashing. So why was the thread deleted rather than locked? Some threads are just locked and not deleted, and I think some consistency should be encouraged. Frankly I'm a little dissapointed I didn't get to read all of the responses because a vegan's point of view is something I could never fathom, and there were some very insightful responses on that thread.

Should it have been deleted? I don't think so. Locked? Idk, guess thats up to your discretion.


Hi,

Thanks for raising this important concern.

My initial review of the thread in question leads me to the same conclusion: it was unnecessarily deleted. I recognize that there were some valid responses in the thread that may have been of interest to you as the OP. I'll loop back with the moderation team and strive for better consistency regarding when we clean threads up, lock them, or outright delete them.

A civil discussion about the moderation guidelines, and our handling of abuse reports in relation to those guidelines, is an appropriate conversation for the Website Suggestions/Feedback forum, and does not represent a guideline violation in and of itself. I'll do my best to keep abreast of replies to this thread.

Regardless of whether I post any follow-ups here, I will be sure to start a conversation with the moderators regarding the threshold between locking and deleting threads, particularly if the thread in question contains responses that might be of value to the OP, despite the thread being polluted by subsequent instances of hi-jacking, trolling, or other guideline violations.

Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff
October 8, 2012 2:59 PM
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I created a thread, "would vegetarians/vegans eat meat if:", it was a legitimate question of mine and I posted it under the proper area, and last I checked there were 4 pages of overall relevant posts and minimal bashing. So why was the thread deleted rather than locked? Some threads are just locked and not deleted, and I think some consistency should be encouraged. Frankly I'm a little dissapointed I didn't get to read all of the responses because a vegan's point of view is something I could never fathom, and there were some very insightful responses on that thread.

Should it have been deleted? I don't think so. Locked? Idk, guess thats up to your discretion.


Hi,

Thanks for raising this important concern.

My initial review of the thread in question leads me to the same conclusion: it was unnecessarily deleted. I recognize that there were some valid responses in the thread that may have been of interest to you as the OP. I'll loop back with the moderation team and strive for better consistency regarding when we clean threads up, lock them, or outright delete them.

A civil discussion about the moderation guidelines, and our handling of abuse reports in relation to those guidelines, is an appropriate conversation for the Website Suggestions/Feedback forum, and does not represent a guideline violation in and of itself. I'll do my best to keep abreast of replies to this thread.

Regardless of whether I post any follow-ups here, I will be sure to start a conversation with the moderators regarding the threshold between locking and deleting threads, particularly if the thread in question contains responses that might be of value to the OP, despite the thread being polluted by subsequent instances of hi-jacking, trolling, or other guideline violations.

Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff


Thank you Steven!
October 8, 2012 3:05 PM
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He just deleted my "Everyone Must Agree" thread. Which is odd. Everyone agreed.


They are all haters of gum drop pooping unicorns and glitter tossing fairies!!

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