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September 9, 2012 10:57 PM
I thought this was standard practice? If you work in a hospital or nursing home, you have to have your shots. If it were in any other workplace, then I'd be against it. Honestly, I never get the flu and never get the shot, half the people who get the shot get the flu at work! lol
September 9, 2012 11:00 PM
I never thought I needed the flu shot....

then a few years ago, I got hit hard with the flu I was out for THREE WEEKS.

So either you have the vacation time, or if your work happens to give you three weeks of "paid sicktime" or they can fire you for Job abandoment, which is perfectly legal.

When the swine flu came around that first year, I had gotten the regular flu shot but not the one for the swine flu, But my wife and kids had gotten the shots.....Guess what I had gotten it.... out 2 weeks.....poof see ya vacation time.....It also went through our work and cost thousands of dollars of management time.

The flu vacine is a good thing, take it. Why would you want to be miserable for 2-3 weeks? Throwing up with chills and a fever?
  7867124
September 9, 2012 11:01 PM
I think it should be a personal choice...the one time I got the flu shot I was sick within a week and I had a neverending cold all winter long.
September 9, 2012 11:03 PM
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I thought this was standard practice? If you work in a hospital or nursing home, you have to have your shots. If it were in any other workplace, then I'd be against it. Honestly, I never get the flu and never get the shot, half the people who get the shot get the flu at work! lol


doubtful, they probably get a cold or a virus, not the flu. I used to think this way when I was your age, after a couple of kids and getting my butt kicked twice by the flu, I am a solid believer in the shot or spray.

Plus people, it is a mist spray in the nose now, $25 and 2 seconds your done.
  7867124
September 9, 2012 11:04 PM
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I thought this was standard practice? If you work in a hospital or nursing home, you have to have your shots. If it were in any other workplace, then I'd be against it. Honestly, I never get the flu and never get the shot, half the people who get the shot get the flu at work! lol


doubtful, they probably get a cold or a virus, not the flu. I used to think this way when I was your age, after a couple of kids and getting my butt kicked twice by the flu, I am a solid believer in the shot or spray.

Plus people, it is a mist spray in the nose now, $25 and 2 seconds your done.


It depends on where you live and where you get it...........................
September 9, 2012 11:07 PM
yes its should be your choice but the last few yrs i have had the flu shot myself so i see nothing wrong with it! If you don't have it and get the flu you REALLY will wish you did have it belive me! bigsmile
and to be honest what's one small prick in the grand sceame of things?bigsmile
September 9, 2012 11:09 PM
The hospital, community health, mental health, social services and ambulance services here are now mandatory too. For those who are allergic, there's a couple of alternatives but most of us will just bite the bullet and take the shot. I react about one year in 3.
It sucks that we're faced with being forced to do it. Even though I would have had the shot this year anyway for my own health reasons, I still hate being told that I have to do it.
  25927560
September 9, 2012 11:09 PM
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Nope. I very much do not believe in them and would absolutely refuse, I would not use religious reasons, when they fired me, I'd sue their god damn asses off their freaking faces. (obviously, I feel very strongly about ths).


This pretty much sums it up for me too bigsmile
  994207
September 9, 2012 11:10 PM
and surely if YOU care anything for the patents you would get it done right??? noway
September 9, 2012 11:48 PM
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All of a sudden, it would be against my religion to get a flu shot.


This.

Say you're a Jehovah's Witness. If they push back, ask for their home address so you can visit them regularly in the evenings, around dinnertime, to proselytize.

--P
September 9, 2012 11:49 PM
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and surely if YOU care anything for the patents you would get it done right??? noway


There are these things called surgical masks and gloves that do a pretty good job of protecting the people wearing them, as well as the people around them. In fact, most hospitals I know of force people to wear those if they refuse the flu shot. I can see the benefit of getting a flu shot if you do work in a healthcare setting, but threatening to fire people if they don't is crossing a line. I work in a pharmacy, and it's not mandatory, but they definitely try to pressure you into getting them. I haven't gotten the shot in the four years I've worked there, and I also haven't gotten the flu in the four years I've worked there.
  7135467
September 9, 2012 11:55 PM
I would absolutely refuse. Contains thimerosol.
September 10, 2012 12:02 AM
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If you work around the elderly, infants or immune compromised people get the shot, if you don't want to, quit or get fired. People go to the hospital to get better, not get sicker because someone working there refuses to not spread a potentially lethal virus. Worked in healthcare long? Doesn't seem like it if your unwilling to do everything you can to keep yourself and your patients well.


Agreed. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want the shot, other than some "I don't want to because they're forcing me" business. And I would hope anyone in the healthcare industry would know thimerosol is nothing to worry about. Makes your chances of getting sick and inadvertently killing an elderly person much lower.
September 10, 2012 12:23 AM
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If you work around the elderly, infants or immune compromised people get the shot, if you don't want to, quit or get fired. People go to the hospital to get better, not get sicker because someone working there refuses to not spread a potentially lethal virus. Worked in healthcare long? Doesn't seem like it if your unwilling to do everything you can to keep yourself and your patients well.


Agreed. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want the shot, other than some "I don't want to because they're forcing me" business. And I would hope anyone in the healthcare industry would know thimerosol is nothing to worry about. Makes your chances of getting sick and inadvertently killing an elderly person much lower.


I don't want the shot because I've had adverse reactions to vaccines in the past, so I don't see the point of getting one when there are plenty of other ways to avoid getting sick and getting other people sick.
  7135467
September 10, 2012 12:26 AM
The hospital I work at is now doing the same...get the flu shot OR wear a mask at all times. Guess I'll be wearing a mask. For all that make the comment "if you really care for your patients"...blah, blah, blah, I'm more likely to get all kinds of disgusting organisms FROM the patients that cough and spew in the faces of the people taking care of them. And for the comments like "work in health care long?", as a matter of fact, yes, almost 30 years. I've also worked on a Respiratory care unit for at least the last 10 years and have NEVER gotten the flu shot OR the flu in all those years. An employer should NOT be able to force employees to have any kind of medical treatment, preventative or otherwise. What's next, if you get pregnant you get fired. It's a personal choice and an employer shouldn't be able to make that decision for you. Apparently they realize that they legally can't force you to have the flu shot, so they try to coerce you into getting it by saying that you have to wear a mask at all times if you don't get it. They figure that wearing a mask all the time will be such a pain in the arse that people will just give in. I wonder how long it will be before they decide that they are spending too much money on masks? I already have to wear a mask for most of my shift just to prevent myself from getting sick from my patients, so it's no big deal to wear one the whole time.
September 10, 2012 12:55 AM
I will always come down on the side of the medical profession. But I have regular IV transfusions of a crazy drug cocktail for my arthritis that switch me from cripple to very mobile, so I have a lot of faith and respect.
September 10, 2012 1:50 AM
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The hospital I work at is now doing the same...get the flu shot OR wear a mask at all times. Guess I'll be wearing a mask. For all that make the comment "if you really care for your patients"...blah, blah, blah, I'm more likely to get all kinds of disgusting organisms FROM the patients that cough and spew in the faces of the people taking care of them. And for the comments like "work in health care long?", as a matter of fact, yes, almost 30 years. I've also worked on a Respiratory care unit for at least the last 10 years and have NEVER gotten the flu shot OR the flu in all those years. An employer should NOT be able to force employees to have any kind of medical treatment, preventative or otherwise. What's next, if you get pregnant you get fired. It's a personal choice and an employer shouldn't be able to make that decision for you. Apparently they realize that they legally can't force you to have the flu shot, so they try to coerce you into getting it by saying that you have to wear a mask at all times if you don't get it. They figure that wearing a mask all the time will be such a pain in the arse that people will just give in. I wonder how long it will be before they decide that they are spending too much money on masks? I already have to wear a mask for most of my shift just to prevent myself from getting sick from my patients, so it's no big deal to wear one the whole time.


AMEN!

My hospital has the same policy. I have refused the flu shot every year and instead choose to wear the mask. I've never gotten the flu, and as someone else said, the single best way to protect your patient is to wash your hands.

Does anyone actually think that hospital corporations actually care about the patient? There's only one thing they care about and that is MONEY. Guess what hospitals get if they force enough employees to take the flu shot? I'll give you one guess....
  27142596
September 10, 2012 2:18 AM
I'd develop a religious conviction. Simple
September 10, 2012 2:30 AM
I get one every year and so do my kids- never made any of us sick. If my work was giving them out for free I'd be happy.
  2251992
September 10, 2012 2:31 AM
I have no opinion either way but I will say this.....If I was a patient in a hospital and the nurse walks in with a mask on I would honesty be so freaked out. I would be wondering why the heck a nurse is wearing a mask AND if she/he is sick.
  1811914
September 10, 2012 2:45 AM
It bothers me that drugs are the answer to everything. Why don't they enforce healthy eating and exercise. They would rather put donuts and pizza in the breakroom for everyone and then mandate a shot. It makes no sense to me!!
September 10, 2012 2:56 AM
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AMEN!

My hospital has the same policy. I have refused the flu shot every year and instead choose to wear the mask. I've never gotten the flu, and as someone else said, the single best way to protect your patient is to wash your hands.

Does anyone actually think that hospital corporations actually care about the patient? There's only one thing they care about and that is MONEY. Guess what hospitals get if they force enough employees to take the flu shot? I'll give you one guess....


YES this right here!!!!!! Hospitals and Ins Co. all the care about is the bottom line.

My son got it when he was little both the flu, the H1N1, and the RSV vacc.He was medically complex when he was little, we had a very rought 2.5 years with him.

But last winter he did not. Last winter was the first winter he did not get very ill. The first winter he was born, I got the shot being one of his primary care givers. I got the flu something horrendous!! Puking for a week and nothing staying down, chills, fever...it was awful.

IDK, I know that DRs will tell you that the flu shot will NOT give you flu, but we've seen the opposite in our house.
  23607906
September 10, 2012 3:07 AM
I work in a clinic and we are required as well. I gladly take the vaccination because I work with women battling breast cancer. The last thing I want to do is expose them to an illness that could take their life as they are undergoing chemotherapy. It is a small thing to do for the health of so many other people who are battling life threatening illnesses. I hope those who do not take the immunization wear masks.
September 10, 2012 3:12 AM
against flu shots.
September 10, 2012 3:15 AM
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I thought this was standard practice? If you work in a hospital or nursing home, you have to have your shots. If it were in any other workplace, then I'd be against it. Honestly, I never get the flu and never get the shot, half the people who get the shot get the flu at work! lol


doubtful, they probably get a cold or a virus, not the flu. I used to think this way when I was your age, after a couple of kids and getting my butt kicked twice by the flu, I am a solid believer in the shot or spray.

Plus people, it is a mist spray in the nose now, $25 and 2 seconds your done.


Not true. The year before last I got the flu shot in November. In early February I got the flu. I didn't have the doctor send it off to see ifit was H1N1 because I really didn't care. I just wanted to feel better. I ended up being out of work for 2 weeks.

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