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drea85an
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August 10, 2012 09:52
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It seems like many people have changed their standards to suit themselves. I've told a few people that I've joined MFP and what my goals are and they're shocked. They think I'm already skinny and they know I'm already an active runner and I have lots of energy compared to others. However, I see a steady pound increase here and there and I could definitely use more muscle.
Even here, I see lots of people like a 5'3" woman with a goal of 150 lbs. That's chubby. It might be a drastic improvement but it's still chubby.
I've also noticed how little people know about food. Lots of people have already mentioned all the "diet foods" available. They're awful!!! I personally didn't know how to eat fresh fruit until I was out on my own. Growing up, I thought canned fruit was healthy. I also had my own personal struggles with diet food and it took me forever to figure out how bad they are.
You don't know everyone's personal goals or why they have them. I have pcos, my doctor, more than one, told me I will be starving myself to get below 150, and I have a large frame, at that height. My goal is still, 130, but I eat a mostly clean diet, I am a daily exerciser, and I have been doing this for quite a while. We are all different. Clearly this country has a problem, but don't put down others goals because they wouldn't work for you. Maybe their goal is 150, and then they will go from there. Maybe they were 400lbs, and 150 is where they can maintain and be healthy ( and slightly overweight can be healthy, if eating right and exercising)
I agree we have a problem, but everyone is different with their goals.
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bberg0521
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August 10, 2012 09:59
Being Lazy, no motivation, being consumed with televison, computers, electrionic gadets. Convenience foods. So many things contribute to this and I myself am no exception to this.
All this is why I look the way I do. I cannot change each and every American but I can change myself and I can be a better example for my children and family and hope they follow in my change and be healthy themselves so they don’t have to go through this.
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jcjsjones
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August 10, 2012 10:15
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Education - If there are McDonalds in high schools the kids don't stand a chance!
I agree! My son started middle school the other day and the only thing I could get him to tell me was the cafeteria was "awesome". Yep, all the doughnuts, pop tarts, pancakes, and juice you could handle!
Needless to stay he eats breakfast at home...
And I am seriouly considering starting to fix his lunch.
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jadesign19
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August 10, 2012 10:19
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I don't think you can just say laziness... maybe when it comes to exercise but we didn't become the top nation in the world by being lazy. I think when we were in a economic boom most were focused on careers and a lot more people found themselves behind desks for 8 hours/day. I kind of feel like we're on the rebound though and people are starting to hit the gyms like never before. People are getting bored and looking for things to do. I bet we get healthier in the next 10 years!!
my two cents.
I totally agree with this!
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myownadvice
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August 10, 2012 10:23
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Follow the money, there is no profit to be made in a healthy population.
Totally agree!
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Marll
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August 10, 2012 10:29
Increasingly sedentary lifestyle
Wheat
Sugar
Processed foods
I know plenty of people with great willpower and drive, and workout like crazy yet still gain or can't loose weight. A good friend of mine has struggled his entire life with weight, and only after going low carb and eliminating processed foods, wheat and sugar has he been able to loose weight. He is a driven successful professional....don't ever equate lazy with being fat unless you know first hand the person.
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ninerbuff
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August 10, 2012 10:31
Straight up: Most Americans don't really care. If they REALLY did, they'd do what the ones that really care are doing too. I really care, which is why I don't have a weight/health issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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bcattoes
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August 10, 2012 11:08
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Straight up: Most Americans don't really care. If they REALLY did, they'd do what the ones that really care are doing too. I really care, which is why I don't have a weight/health issue.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yeah, except for a very small minority, it all really boils down to this.
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Jeneba
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August 10, 2012 11:09
New Yorkers (ih the 5 boroughs) are slimmer as a population than most of the rest of the country.... because we walk more, are less dependent on automobiles.
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AlabasterVerv
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August 10, 2012 11:14
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Fear of dietary fat consumption based on bad science, a food pyramid based on bad science, subsidising agriculture, politics and commercial interests overriding good health.
You are eating too much nutrient poor rubbish supported by recommendations that have no basis in fact.
Follow the money, there is no profit to be made in a healthy population.
Rampant diabetes and statins are a logical result of this madness.
Gluttony and sloth? Less so.
Yup!
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There's research being done right now that shows one of the biggest indicators of childhood obesity is the diet of the mother while she was pregnant. It seems that it can "turn on" the fat gene (or some such) and even though these children are born a normal weight they just get fatter in an environment with abundant food.
Not that I expect anyone to care. It's much more satisfying to believe there's no biological and environment reasons for the obesity epidemic and that it's "their own fault" for being bad, lazy people instead of something driving people to overeat. Everyone seems to absolutely revel in this idea that being fat is a well deserved punishment for a lack of character and thinness is a reward for a good, virtuous character. Truly bizarre.
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LowcarbNY
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August 10, 2012 12:03
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Why?
The Food Pyramid and fat phobia.
Hmm, pretty sure those were around long before the 90's.
Pretty sure the US was getting fat before the 90's
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Sidesteal
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August 10, 2012 12:08
The problem is overconsumption of calories.
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odusgolp
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August 10, 2012 12:09
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The problem is overconsumption of calories.
WRONG! It's Totinos Pizza Rolls. God, you never listen to me, SS!
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Sidesteal
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August 10, 2012 12:11
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The problem is overconsumption of calories.
WRONG! It's Totinos Pizza Rolls. God, you never listen to me, SS!
You are correct. And if those were wheat-pizza rolls we'd all be dead.
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bcattoes
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August 10, 2012 12:13
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Why?
The Food Pyramid and fat phobia.
Hmm, pretty sure those were around long before the 90's.
Pretty sure the US was getting fat before the 90's
The OP asked why we were getting heavier since the 90's.
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drmerc
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August 10, 2012 12:16
Lack of raspberry ketones in our diet
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Dad_of_3
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August 10, 2012 12:19
I have not read all these posts- too busy, so if this is a quote or paraphrase of someone else, that's ok.
Sidesteal said over-consumption of calories. True. But why?
Until the late 1800s the world was an agrarian society. Not only that, but an agrarian society that used man and animal power to get tasks done around the farm.
When the industrial age began, and the automobiles and tractors got rid of the horse and ox as beasts of labor, we no longer had to walk everywhere, and we no longer had to manually saddle up the horse or yoke up the oxen. As technology improved, our playtime outside (running, jumping, climbing, and skipping) was replaced with playtime inside (sitting, sitting, sitting and sitting). As we moved from an agrarian society to a manufacturing society, at the beginning, it was not so bad- there was much manual labor to be had to burn off calories. Now, with a more service oriented economy, with desk jobs, standing in one spot without aerobic exercise, fewer calories were/are being consumed.
We require fewer calories to live, but we consume way to many calories to be healthy. Also, with the mass-production of ready-made foods with salt and fat added for flavor, and the convenience of fast food, we are exploding out of our pants, skirts, shirts and blouses, our weight and waistlines ever ballooning upward until we have now become a nation of fat folks.
And I am changing my life here with MFP and Weight Watchers. Having lost 22.4 pounds so far, I have 127.6 more pounds to lose. I refuse to be a part of the problem. Cut the calories, increase the aerobic exercise and strength training. Problem solved.
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bcattoes
Joined 2011-03-23
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August 10, 2012 12:20
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There's research being done right now that shows one of the biggest indicators of childhood obesity is the diet of the mother while she was pregnant. It seems that it can "turn on" the fat gene (or some such) and even though these children are born a normal weight they just get fatter in an environment with abundant food.
Not that I expect anyone to care. It's much more satisfying to believe there's no biological and environment reasons for the obesity epidemic and that it's "their own fault" for being bad, lazy people instead of something driving people to overeat. Everyone seems to absolutely revel in this idea that being fat is a well deserved punishment for a lack of character and thinness is a reward for a good, virtuous character. Truly bizarre.
"They get fatter in an environment with abundant food". That would suggest they would not get fat if they did not overeat.
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Sidesteal
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August 10, 2012 12:22
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Sidesteal said over-consumption of calories. True. But why?
That's an important question.
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Until the late 1800s the world was an agrarian society. Not only that, but an agrarian society that used man and animal power to get tasks done around the farm.
When the industrial age began, and the automobiles and tractors got rid of the horse and ox as beasts of labor, we no longer had to walk everywhere, and we no longer had to manually saddle up the horse or yoke up the oxen. As technology improved, our playtime outside (running, jumping, climbing, and skipping) was replaced with playtime inside (sitting, sitting, sitting and sitting). As we moved from an agrarian society to a manufacturing society, at the beginning, it was not so bad- there was much manual labor to be had to burn off calories. Now, with a more service oriented economy, with desk jobs, standing in one spot without aerobic exercise, fewer calories were/are being consumed.
We require fewer calories to live, but we consume way to many calories to be healthy. Also, with the mass-production of ready-made foods with salt and fat added for flavor, and the convenience of fast food, we are exploding out of our pants, skirts, shirts and blouses, our weight and waistlines ever ballooning upward until we have now become a nation of fat folks.
And while I can't comment on our history, the above seems like a very reasonable assessment.
Bottom line is, we aren't as active and we eat too much. And the rather ridiculous availability of calorie dense food is not helping.
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Jules2Be
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August 10, 2012 12:22
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The problem is overconsumption of calories.
WRONG! It's Totinos Pizza Rolls. God, you never listen to me, SS!
You are correct. And if those were wheat-pizza rolls we'd all be dead.
I'm sure i read somewhere that wheat is BAD for you.
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Dad_of_3
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August 10, 2012 12:24
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Sidesteal said over-consumption of calories. True. But why?
That's an important question.
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Until the late 1800s the world was an agrarian society. Not only that, but an agrarian society that used man and animal power to get tasks done around the farm.
When the industrial age began, and the automobiles and tractors got rid of the horse and ox as beasts of labor, we no longer had to walk everywhere, and we no longer had to manually saddle up the horse or yoke up the oxen. As technology improved, our playtime outside (running, jumping, climbing, and skipping) was replaced with playtime inside (sitting, sitting, sitting and sitting). As we moved from an agrarian society to a manufacturing society, at the beginning, it was not so bad- there was much manual labor to be had to burn off calories. Now, with a more service oriented economy, with desk jobs, standing in one spot without aerobic exercise, fewer calories were/are being consumed.
We require fewer calories to live, but we consume way to many calories to be healthy. Also, with the mass-production of ready-made foods with salt and fat added for flavor, and the convenience of fast food, we are exploding out of our pants, skirts, shirts and blouses, our weight and waistlines ever ballooning upward until we have now become a nation of fat folks.
And while I can't comment on our history, the above seems like a very reasonable assessment.
Bottom line is, we aren't as active and we eat too much. And the rather ridiculous availability of calorie dense food is not helping.
Amen to what you said.
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Acg67
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August 10, 2012 12:24
White bread...
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AlabasterVerv
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August 10, 2012 12:25
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There's research being done right now that shows one of the biggest indicators of childhood obesity is the diet of the mother while she was pregnant. It seems that it can "turn on" the fat gene (or some such) and even though these children are born a normal weight they just get fatter in an environment with abundant food.
Not that I expect anyone to care. It's much more satisfying to believe there's no biological and environment reasons for the obesity epidemic and that it's "their own fault" for being bad, lazy people instead of something driving people to overeat. Everyone seems to absolutely revel in this idea that being fat is a well deserved punishment for a lack of character and thinness is a reward for a good, virtuous character. Truly bizarre.
"They get fatter in an environment with abundant food". That would suggest they would not get fat if they did not overeat.
Of course?
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bcattoes
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August 10, 2012 12:26
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White bread...
The whiter your bread, the sooner you're dead.
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Acg67
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August 10, 2012 12:26
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White bread...
The whiter your bread, the sooner you're dead.
Def maybe
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