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August 9, 2012 1:07 PM
Hi,

Today was my return to weight lifting (its been a while), and the first time I have done it since joining this site. After I entered all the things I did, there was nothing added to the calories burned like when I enter a cardio workout. Is this normal or is there just something I am not clicking to finish the entry? Thanks
August 9, 2012 1:16 PM
This is incredibly frustrating for many of us. There doesn't seem to be a reliable way to calculate calorie burn for weight training, even though I think I'm burning at least as many calories now in a workout as I was burning when I was doing P90-X. The only (lame) solution that I know of is to know that you're working hard, and adjust your calories based on your level of hunger level and the progress you're seeing. If you're doing a really intense program, assume you'll need at least 500 and maybe 1000kcal over your BMR, and most of it should be protein.
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August 9, 2012 1:20 PM
I see, well that is a shame. Oh well. This site is still a great tool for gaining a better understanding of what you're eating and should be eating. Thanks for the help.
August 9, 2012 1:31 PM
It's a great site for lots of things. I've learned a ton about weight lifting by being on here, even though I've been doing it for over 20 years. The community here is great - very knowledgeable. What sort of program are you doing? Have you tried Strong LIfts 5x5?
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August 9, 2012 1:55 PM
I'm not really on any type of program right now. I just figured I would get back into some light weight lifting to supliment the cardio that I am concentrating on. I'm not too eager to get really big again. I don't have the time or drive to maintain that kind of muscle anymore. (I'm sure my girlfirend wouldn't be happy hearing me say that...) I am more interested in just trimming the fat and maybe some toning, you know, a slimmer healthy build.

I just find that mixing up the diet and workout routines helps to prevent me from hitting platues. And after all, I have free wieghts an elliptical and a treadmill in my house, I might as well make use of them all right? I will look into that strong lifs 5x5 though and see what its all about. Thanks.
August 9, 2012 2:09 PM
You can also log it under cardio and look up weight lifting.drinker
Edited by COCookieRaider On August 9, 2012 2:09 PM
August 9, 2012 2:14 PM
There are some other sites that provide the calories for weight training as well as physical therapy. Then I found a cardio workout in the data base that used simlar calaories and used it for my calculation. Several of us are using that method and it seems to be working.

Many times I can't find the exact workout/carbs, but just ordered a new polar that will help me with the calories.

Good luck.
August 9, 2012 2:19 PM
get a heart rate monitor ;-) you burn ALOT less lifting then cardio .... well at least I do my average burn weight training is around 250 cals per hour and for cardio it is about 550-600 cals per hour ... not sure if that helps
Edited by BackTatJIM On August 9, 2012 2:19 PM
August 9, 2012 2:50 PM
I have been meaning to look into heart rate monitors. How does all that work? Can you just program the monitor with your age, height, weight, ect and then it will calculate calories burned? I guess it probably depends on what you want to spend on one as well right?
August 9, 2012 3:07 PM
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I have been meaning to look into heart rate monitors. How does all that work? Can you just program the monitor with your age, height, weight, ect and then it will calculate calories burned? I guess it probably depends on what you want to spend on one as well right?


that's exactly how they work. you will be amazed at the difference between the HRM and what the online database SAYS you are burning! i use the Polar FT7. it's great, and only about $80 on amazon (cheapest place i found it -- even less than Polar)
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August 9, 2012 3:12 PM
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You can also log it under cardio and look up weight lifting.drinker

or circuit training

the stength training area is just to keep track of reps and weights.
August 9, 2012 3:20 PM
Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions. I have come across the Sportline SX Universal Combo ECG Heart Rate Monitor. It has really good reviews and has the chest strap and watch piece. It is a good price, so I am going to go pick that up and give it a shot.
August 9, 2012 3:28 PM
You simply go to the cardio exercises and enter strength training. Then you can log it under cardio and you'll get your calories.
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August 9, 2012 3:47 PM
thanks goldfinger88 i will give that a try!
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August 9, 2012 3:58 PM
QUOTE:

You can also log it under cardio and look up weight lifting.drinker
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August 10, 2012 7:29 AM
QUOTE:

I have been meaning to look into heart rate monitors. How does all that work? Can you just program the monitor with your age, height, weight, ect and then it will calculate calories burned? I guess it probably depends on what you want to spend on one as well right?


I've heard over and over that HRMs can't be used to gauge calories burned for weight training. It's been backed up by references to research - that I've followed up and read, even though it's a bit over my head - and it seems to be a supported claim. The basic idea is that HRMs try to make calculations for stress under volume (related to VO2 Max estimates), whereas weight training creates stress under load, which is a different animal altogether. So even though your HR goes up, it doesn't correlate to calories burned the way cardio does.

I've also heard that weight training - especially fulll body exericses like squats and deads - can burn more calories than cardio, but of course, it's nearly an impossible comparison, since there's no real way you can control for intensity across such different activities. Even duration is hard to line up, since you have rest breaks when you're lifting heavy, etc.

I confess, that while I was doing P90-X I did use my HRM to estimate calories burned, but I'm really not sure how accurate it was. These days, I'm doing very little cardio, and just the 5x5 routine 3 days/week. So, I'm working out a lot less, from a time perspective. But my weight is going down, and my strength is going up; I feel better, and I'm just keeping my calories pretty even for 'moderate activity'. Of course, those 3 workouts each week are serious full body workouts, and I feel pretty wasted after each one, more so than how I felt from P90-X. When I finish the 5x5 stuff, I feel a little shaken, way down deep. It's a great feeling, but very different from any other workout I've tried. (Squats and deadlifts rock!)
Edited by MoveTheMountain On August 10, 2012 7:31 AM
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August 10, 2012 8:09 AM
Hmm, a little disappointing to hear about the HRM not working accuratley on weight lifting, but I am still eager to try it out while on the treadmill today and see what it says versus what the treadmill and this web site say.

I do agree, or at least suspsect that once a person has developed a good amount of muscle, if they really are pushing themselves, there are a lot of calories to be burned lifting weights. In high school and a few years after, I was in pretty decent shape with a good amount of muscle, and I always felt like I had burned a lot more lifting wieghts that I ever did running, but of course I had no way to back this up or prove it. Even yesterday (first time back lifting weights in a long time) about 5 minutes into the workout, I was starving. I remember this always happened before when I lifted weights too. I don't know if there is any relation with that and burning calories, but it never happens with cardio workouts.

Thats what I love about this site though, someone is bound to have some comments to this and I get to learn more.
August 10, 2012 8:27 AM
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You can also log it under cardio and look up weight lifting.drinker



This is what i do but, i wear a HRM so i input the calories that it says on it. Then i log all my training moves under strength training.
August 10, 2012 10:01 AM
QUOTE:

Hmm, a little disappointing to hear about the HRM not working accuratley on weight lifting, but I am still eager to try it out while on the treadmill today and see what it says versus what the treadmill and this web site say.

I do agree, or at least suspsect that once a person has developed a good amount of muscle, if they really are pushing themselves, there are a lot of calories to be burned lifting weights. In high school and a few years after, I was in pretty decent shape with a good amount of muscle, and I always felt like I had burned a lot more lifting wieghts that I ever did running, but of course I had no way to back this up or prove it. Even yesterday (first time back lifting weights in a long time) about 5 minutes into the workout, I was starving. I remember this always happened before when I lifted weights too. I don't know if there is any relation with that and burning calories, but it never happens with cardio workouts.

Thats what I love about this site though, someone is bound to have some comments to this and I get to learn more.


I have a Polar FT60 that I love for tracking cardio/circuit stuff. Now that I'm only doing weights, I really miss the feedback of watching my HR and the calories burned keep notching upward.
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August 10, 2012 10:01 AM
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QUOTE:

You can also log it under cardio and look up weight lifting.drinker



This is what i do but, i wear a HRM so i input the calories that it says on it. Then i log all my training moves under strength training.


That's what I did for all my P90-X workouts.
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August 15, 2012 3:29 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

You can also log it under cardio and look up weight lifting.drinker

or circuit training

the stength training area is just to keep track of reps and weights.


Under cardio there is weightlifting that tells you how many calories were burned...

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