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June 15, 2012 9:58 PM
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... stuff about nutrition...
I think that's the part that I struggle with most. I'm really good at not eating over my calories, or working off the little "oops, I ate too many" calories, but I have no idea how much of the other nutrients to eat. As can be seen in the other comments, I've heard "more fat" "less fat" "less carbs" "same amount of carbs" "more protein" "less protein", etc.. i think the only thing we all agree on is less sodium! How can I find out what values are right for me?


You're also way under on fiber. In comparison to other sites, MFP doesn't recommend as much as many other sites, and you're even below that.

The balance between fat/carbs/protein is a bit of a "religious" war. I'm not going to get into that argument, my sense from what I've read is that you shouldn't go below 20% of your calories on any of those three categories, but whether it should be 30-30-40 or 20-40-40... I don't know, and I rather expect it's different for various people. MFP only tracks some of the nutritional information. On a regular basis only 2 vitamins and 2 minerals. I'd suggest tracking on a site like the usda.gov's "my plate", which is not as easy or supportive as MFP, but where you can see how you're doing with many more nutrients... just try it for a few days or even some key foods, and you can get a sense of where you're doing fine and what you may be missing and want to track more carefully for awhile.

In the meantime, I'd recommend a daily vitamin. Personally I like children's vitamins... they don't have 100% of what an adult needs, but I figure I am getting at least 1/2 of what I need from what I eat.
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Good luck!


Ah fiber....we won't get into why I reluctantly eat it haha XD That sounds like a good idea though; I'll definitely check out "my plate." Like I said, I just don't want a repeat of the calorie fiasco where I sent my body into a very unhealthy place. Thanks for the advice!
June 15, 2012 11:07 PM
i started my change when i was on vacation from work, so when i got ready to go back i went to the McDonald's website http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/nutrition_choices.html and literally wrote down anything under 450 calories. that way you can make better informed decisions. most chains have this i've personally looked at burger king, culver's and subway. honestly, part of the problem in going into those places is people all around you are making poor choices, and they smell sooooo good! resist, trust me when i tell you you can eat decently on the go, just do your research, you don't know where you're going to stop so research their favorites or most visited, or just stuff in the area. and you don't sound lazy, sometimes i don't get up until 11 either (i work late) it's still considered breakfast, and if you're not hungry eat a piece of fruit or like i do drink a cup of coffee. get your metabolism going. i've never been a breakfast person but years before i decided to change i wanted to test the theory "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and i PERMANENTLY dropped 10 pounds. since then i've been a believer. once again, i will say that is what worked for me and i am in no way licensed to tell you what to do. lol
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June 16, 2012 8:44 AM
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i'm probably going to catch crap for this but i suggest eating breakfast, i only looked at a couple days of your diary but i immediately realized you weren't eating until lunch.


You're correct. My mother's taking a nutrition class and the instructor said you need to eat within 1 hour of waking up. And you need to eat regularly. Remember the genes we had as hunter-gatherers are still there and if our body thinks there is famine, it will start holding on to things.


This is going to sound extremely lazy of me, but lunch IS within the first hour of me waking up....I've been sleeping until 10/11 almost every day >.<


Than wake up earlier and pack food or continue eating junk. It's your choice.
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June 16, 2012 8:55 AM
Like someone said, at 150 you were nowhere near "obese". You were less than 5 lbs. over "normal/healthy" BMI. Are you sure you see yourself accurately?

People do lose eating mostly restaurant food so if you really have to have it, it's possible to be ok. I think if I had to eat it, I would use a food scale to weigh my 'usuals', at least once, to get a feel for if my bean burrito really IS the XXX gram serving size Taco Bell gives me the calories for, and so on. Obviously a burger is going to be a burger. But the fries might be 25% more than specs say and you would be missing logging those if you didn't know it.
June 16, 2012 9:50 AM
There are books you can purchase fairly inexpensively that have calorie counts for restaurants, or you could print out the nutrition info from online to bring along with you. That way, no matter where you stop, you'll know what you can choose to make smart decisions.
June 16, 2012 12:18 PM
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Like someone said, at 150 you were nowhere near "obese". You were less than 5 lbs. over "normal/healthy" BMI. Are you sure you see yourself accurately?

People do lose eating mostly restaurant food so if you really have to have it, it's possible to be ok. I think if I had to eat it, I would use a food scale to weigh my 'usuals', at least once, to get a feel for if my bean burrito really IS the XXX gram serving size Taco Bell gives me the calories for, and so on. Obviously a burger is going to be a burger. But the fries might be 25% more than specs say and you would be missing logging those if you didn't know it.


This is the most sensible advice on here, OP. If you have to eat out, just remember that the calorie counts can be off by a bit. Something like a prepackaged salad at McDonalds might be more accurate than, say, the fires.

Also, I don't think you need to eat breakfast to lose weight. Breakfast is typically the healthiest meal of the day and can help keep you from bingeing at lunch. But breakfast doesn't jump start your metabolism or anything like that.
June 16, 2012 12:38 PM
Do you wake up at home, or do you guys travel for days at a time? It is difficult when you're not choosing where to go, but if you start out the day at home, you could easily pack an insulated lunch box or cooler with stuff just for you. Maybe your parents will like that you're saving them a couple of bucks, too! Even a pretty plain sandwich with some pretzels (or even chips) and fruit would be a whole lot better than eating fast food every day. And honestly, you could *still* do this if you were traveling for days at a time, it would just be really tough if your parents won't allow a stop at a grocery or convenience store.
June 16, 2012 1:09 PM
Forewarning: This is brutal truth not formatted to consider the feelings of readers.

Ignore every post using your BMI as any form of indicator for your health or fitness level.
Asthma is no excuse not to do cardio.
Stop eating fast food, sugars, and grain products (if you still are).
Adjust your exercise to include lifting HEAVY weights at least 2 times per week. Go as heavy as you can, 6-8 reps per set for 3 to four sets.
Do the above for at least two weeks, with your results logged.

p.s.
I did not read the three pages of posts, but what I have written above is likely already stated but not consolidated.
June 16, 2012 1:45 PM
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Forewarning: This is brutal truth not formatted to consider the feelings of readers.

Ignore every post using your BMI as any form of indicator for your health or fitness level.
Asthma is no excuse not to do cardio.
Stop eating fast food, sugars, and grain products (if you still are).
Adjust your exercise to include lifting HEAVY weights at least 2 times per week. Go as heavy as you can, 6-8 reps per set for 3 to four sets.
Do the above for at least two weeks, with your results logged.

p.s.
I did not read the three pages of posts, but what I have written above is likely already stated but not consolidated.


I appreciate your bluntness. Honestly, I do.

I will address the BMI comment I made earlier. I misspoke with the "obese" instead of "overweight" classification. I am aware of my body. I've got some fat to lose, but I am not obese. Nor did I say that I cannot do cardio. I cannot do high intensity cardio for a long period of time....yet. I'm working on it. ^_^
June 16, 2012 1:58 PM
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I appreciate your bluntness. Honestly, I do.

I will address the BMI comment I made earlier. I misspoke with the "obese" instead of "overweight" classification. I am aware of my body. I've got some fat to lose, but I am not obese. Nor did I say that I cannot do cardio. I cannot do high intensity cardio for a long period of time....yet. I'm working on it. ^_^
I recommended that you ignore using BMI because it's a terrible measurement method. According to BMI: I'm 2 points shy of being classified as obese. I would recommend going to your local gem and asking who's the best with calipers and getting your body fat measured. At least then you'd have something a bit more accurate to go off of. Keep up the good work!
June 17, 2012 9:29 AM
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I appreciate your bluntness. Honestly, I do.

I will address the BMI comment I made earlier. I misspoke with the "obese" instead of "overweight" classification. I am aware of my body. I've got some fat to lose, but I am not obese. Nor did I say that I cannot do cardio. I cannot do high intensity cardio for a long period of time....yet. I'm working on it. ^_^
I recommended that you ignore using BMI because it's a terrible measurement method. According to BMI: I'm 2 points shy of being classified as obese. I would recommend going to your local gem and asking who's the best with calipers and getting your body fat measured. At least then you'd have something a bit more accurate to go off of. Keep up the good work!


That's a great idea! I'm going to look into seeing a dietician so I can sort out all of these issues with food levels. Thanks for all the advice!

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