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bm99
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June 14, 2012 16:46
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No wonder so many teenagers are f'd up nowadays, the adults in their lives are so terrified of hurting their widdle feelings they won't help them get on the right path. Good Lord people.
It is HARD to find all the facts about weight loss. There is so much junk science and fad diets it's ridiculous. This little girl is fat and depressed and is trying to find something that works but she HAS NO FREAKING CLUE WHAT TO DO. Someone is willing to help her and she gets bashed? Would you rather her take the advice of her little friends and stop eating or go on some kind of dangerous crash diet? This aunt wants to give her the tools to SUCCEED.
The girl is fat. She knows she's fat. She likely gets a lot of flak for being fat. Do you really think her aunt bringing up weightloss and giving real advice is going to crush her? I doubt it. She might be a little offended but if the end result is that she has to tools to turn her life around for the better and be the vibrant, happy girl she should be then GOOD.
i understand where you're coming from but the OP is a bit misplaced in who she needs to talk to about this.
this is a CHILD. what is she supposed to do, quit school get a job and buy her own food? i dont think things have changed much since I was 13, but i had very little say in what I was eating because my parents were the ones buying it. it's all well and good to tell this girl she should be eating healthy but if she's never been taught that how exactly is she supposed to know how to do so?
unless of course the OP is willing to buy this girl's food and then show her how to cook it and eat it but since she lives so far away. i doubt it.
i really dont understand why people think an overweight child's weight has nothing to do with the parents.
She doesn't know how to eat healthy, that's what the OP wants to TEACH her.
Even if you don't get to choose what to buy (although most parents know what their kids like and that's what they buy), she can choose her portion sizes and decide how much of what she wants to eat. These are all skills that must be taught
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josyjozy
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June 14, 2012 16:48
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Sounds like she is like a million other Americans... knows there's a problem, probably hates her self for having the problem, but when push comes to shove has no freaking clue what to do about it!
Educate her when you visit. Say something like "I hear you want to try such and such diet plan, you know I lost 78 pounds doing THIS" and explain to her about diet and exercise. Introduce her to this site and show her what kind of physical activities can be fun. All you can do is give her the tools, and I think you are awesome for caring so much about the little ****. I know I cannot bear to be around a 13 year old for more than 5 minutes before I want to poke my eye out lol Way to go!
Edit: Can you talk to her guardians about this?
I think it's a great idea to do if you hear her mention something about dieting or weight loss. If not, can you speak to someone she is close to and see if you can get them concerned for her? Maybe helping the concerned friend/relative/other close person will have an effect. At least you can walk away knowing you gave it your best shot.
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ishtar13
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June 14, 2012 16:50
How about showing her photos from when you were heavy?
Don't specifically make it about your weight, though. Do it as sharing family memories and there just happens to be pics of you heavy. Point out that it's you, and when she says something along the lines of, "you look so different!" that can be your opening?
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FlaxMilk
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June 14, 2012 17:42
One of the best ways of teaching is modeling. Don't say a word to her about weight unless she or someone else brings up your weight. Then you can say, "Thanks! I found this great site blah blah blah." Be open that you are going to exercise and that you enjoy it as me time.
If no one mentions weight, bring it up yourself about YOU. "Remember when I had (random medical problem)? My doctor said since losing weight, it's all cleared up. If only had someone told me that watching my portions could do so much! I wish I had believed in myself enough to start this sooner." (Or whatever.)
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meshashesha20
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June 14, 2012 17:45
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No wonder so many teenagers are f'd up nowadays, the adults in their lives are so terrified of hurting their widdle feelings they won't help them get on the right path. Good Lord people.
It is HARD to find all the facts about weight loss. There is so much junk science and fad diets it's ridiculous. This little girl is fat and depressed and is trying to find something that works but she HAS NO FREAKING CLUE WHAT TO DO. Someone is willing to help her and she gets bashed? Would you rather her take the advice of her little friends and stop eating or go on some kind of dangerous crash diet? This aunt wants to give her the tools to SUCCEED.
The girl is fat. She knows she's fat. She likely gets a lot of flak for being fat. Do you really think her aunt bringing up weightloss and giving real advice is going to crush her? I doubt it. She might be a little offended but if the end result is that she has to tools to turn her life around for the better and be the vibrant, happy girl she should be then GOOD.
i understand where you're coming from but the OP is a bit misplaced in who she needs to talk to about this.
this is a CHILD. what is she supposed to do, quit school get a job and buy her own food? i dont think things have changed much since I was 13, but i had very little say in what I was eating because my parents were the ones buying it. it's all well and good to tell this girl she should be eating healthy but if she's never been taught that how exactly is she supposed to know how to do so?
unless of course the OP is willing to buy this girl's food and then show her how to cook it and eat it but since she lives so far away. i doubt it.
i really dont understand why people think an overweight child's weight has nothing to do with the parents.
She doesn't know how to eat healthy, that's what the OP wants to TEACH her.
Even if you don't get to choose what to buy (although most parents know what their kids like and that's what they buy), she can choose her portion sizes and decide how much of what she wants to eat. These are all skills that must be taught
you're not getting my point. teaching her what to do will have little effect if someone else is buying her food.
for instance i was lucky enough to grow up with a family who believed in whole foods, but i also knew kids who's parents bought crap like lunchables, hot dogs, etc. the only veggies were frozen french fries. the only fruit is what was in strawberry ice cream. they ate tons of mcdonalds and pizza, etc.
sorry but if you're trying to lose weight and are obese, there is no healthy portion size of hot dog, ketchup ramen, mrs paul fish sticks, ice cream etc if that's all you're given to eat
sure the OP can teach her how to combine her meals, make healthy salads with baked chicken or salmon, but what if this girl's parents aren't buying food like that? kids dont exist in a bubble
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bm99
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June 14, 2012 17:49
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No wonder so many teenagers are f'd up nowadays, the adults in their lives are so terrified of hurting their widdle feelings they won't help them get on the right path. Good Lord people.
It is HARD to find all the facts about weight loss. There is so much junk science and fad diets it's ridiculous. This little girl is fat and depressed and is trying to find something that works but she HAS NO FREAKING CLUE WHAT TO DO. Someone is willing to help her and she gets bashed? Would you rather her take the advice of her little friends and stop eating or go on some kind of dangerous crash diet? This aunt wants to give her the tools to SUCCEED.
The girl is fat. She knows she's fat. She likely gets a lot of flak for being fat. Do you really think her aunt bringing up weightloss and giving real advice is going to crush her? I doubt it. She might be a little offended but if the end result is that she has to tools to turn her life around for the better and be the vibrant, happy girl she should be then GOOD.
i understand where you're coming from but the OP is a bit misplaced in who she needs to talk to about this.
this is a CHILD. what is she supposed to do, quit school get a job and buy her own food? i dont think things have changed much since I was 13, but i had very little say in what I was eating because my parents were the ones buying it. it's all well and good to tell this girl she should be eating healthy but if she's never been taught that how exactly is she supposed to know how to do so?
unless of course the OP is willing to buy this girl's food and then show her how to cook it and eat it but since she lives so far away. i doubt it.
i really dont understand why people think an overweight child's weight has nothing to do with the parents.
She doesn't know how to eat healthy, that's what the OP wants to TEACH her.
Even if you don't get to choose what to buy (although most parents know what their kids like and that's what they buy), she can choose her portion sizes and decide how much of what she wants to eat. These are all skills that must be taught
you're not getting my point. teaching her what to do will have little effect if someone else is buying her food.
for instance i was lucky enough to grow up with a family who believed in whole foods, but i also knew kids who's parents bought crap like lunchables, hot dogs, etc. the only veggies were frozen french fries. the only fruit is what was in strawberry ice cream. they ate tons of mcdonalds and pizza, etc.
sorry but if you're trying to lose weight and are obese, there is no healthy portion size of hot dog, ketchup ramen, mrs paul fish sticks, ice cream etc.
Assuming the guardians would absolutely never change what they buy no matter how she begs them, eating 1 instead of 2, or learning what the portion sizes ARE and how to read the ingredients on a package and learning what nutrients she should try to get is all important and can take her a long way on her journey.
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angelraguel
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June 14, 2012 17:56
Im really shocked that the grandparents just let her sit there and eat that many cookies and ice cream in a sitting =x!!
I think the majority of her problem is she isnt being provided with the right food and she gets away with eating badly and I hate to say it but the grandparents are the main reason as to why she is big as she is still a child and needs someone to take control of her actions a bit more.
I think your best off addressing them first and once that's been done then chat with your niece. Like many other people have said I wouldn't mention her weight as most people who are big or overweight already know they are and don't need telling again and again and again. I think mentioning your story would be a great way to show her what a fab role model you are, she probably would notice your weight loss and ask you before u even tried mentioning it to her.
I do hope this young girl gets some good help, whether it be from you or her grandparents, i wish I could have had the help when I was younger :) good luck :D
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zenchild
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June 14, 2012 18:01
You mentioned that your sister has lost a good bit of weight as well. If she's going to be there at the same time talk to her about weight loss in front of your niece. Trade tips, experiences, recipes, etc. Your niece will hear it and be able to join the conversation and ask questions if she wants to but it won't be so direct. If you just start talking to her about her weight she'll just get defensive and shut down.
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MrsBully4
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June 14, 2012 18:06
Chiming in that this is a terrible idea and there is absolutely no way to bring this up to the girl without coming off as cruel and mean-spirited. If SHE mentions it to YOU, there's an open door to gently talk about how you improved your own eating habits etc. When I was about 13 my grandparents stopped by to visit for the first time in several years, "gently" told me I was too fat, and sailed away on a cruise. That in no way helped me and I can't imagine how an adult she hardly sees stopping by on vacation to tell her that she's fat will inspire her to do anything other than cut you out of her life.
Talk to the grandparents about buying her cookies and ice cream. Do not confront the girl.
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NautiLife
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June 14, 2012 18:11
I've switched just about everything in our house without telling my two young kids (7&4) to all natural products( I.E. natural jiff peanut butter the ingredients are peanut butter and palm oil) Having a diabetic grandfather I use to eat and snack with him growing up which was pretty bland when it came to ingredients in taste so I knew my biggest challenge was keeping them wanting to eat healthy. Our household in my opinion would rank at the 7.5 or 8 out of 10 for the health factor when it comes to food and the kids eat really wellm here's how we did it. Starting with my 4 year old, he would wake up all hours of the night , be hyper etc. Most people called it being a kid but my wife and I knew it was his diet. We went though the cupboards and ditched anything that had preservatives and or sugary. Product number one was Nutella! You might as well be feeding your kids cotton candy with this stuff. Instead of sugar we use stevia in the raw which is a plant that is 300% more sweeter than sugar but has zero calories, does not effect the glucose spiking our kids blood sugar making it safe for diabetics as well. We took the stevia and baked cookies, cakes, fresh squeezed lemonade. We also created a shelf in the fridge thats strictly for the kids, if they want a snack they can help themselves as much as they want from that shelf only. On that shelf is string cheese, yogurts lots of fruit pre-peeled and cut up if needed. This takes all the thinking out of "what should I eat" for them. So although the foods that they eat may seem like the sugary stuff they like, there is in fact no sugar in them which allows their pancreas to stay steady with the insulin production keeping them from going crazy candy freaks then crashing into naps which messes up their sleep patterns causing them to wake me up through the night
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cheesy_blaste
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June 14, 2012 18:46
I think one issue a lot of overweight kids have is that they feel uncomfortable with their bodies and they end up not liking sport/working out/gym because of it. I think this happens with girls a lot (I'm sure guys too I just don't really know any teenage boys haha) because of puberty etc.
If you maybe tried to find a non-competative sport or activity she liked, maybe that would help encourage her to become active. Maybe going for a walk each night and trying to get further and further each time? Maybe setting up a geocaching/scavenger hunt?
When I was younger I loved horse back riding because I could do it by myself. Another good option would be if she could get a "job" walking someone's dog. A couple bucks a week and she could walk it everyday after school or something. Even giving her a gift like an cheap mp3 player and making her a playlist of your favourite work out songs (or a CD if she already has an mp3 player) so she can dance in the privacy of her own room could help her develop confidence and a love of movement. Creating something shared and special between you two might help her feel more comfortable about talking to you too.
It's tough because no matter what kind of progress you make while you're there, it's up to the rest of her family to keep it going. And it sounds like they aren't super motivated like you are.
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Lozze
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June 14, 2012 19:46
I was a year younger when my auntie had this discussion with me. Offered a weight I should be, offered hints and tips. My auntie is one of my best friends, then and now. I cried myself to sleep that night.
OP all you are going to achieve is hurting your niece even more. You are not close to her, see her once a year and you don't like her. You're doing this out of obligation not out of care. The advice to get to know you niece is the best. Find something you like about her. This girl already has enough issues without you adding to them. I assure you she's aware of her weight. Talk to the people who can change it your parents. Suggest councelling if it's possible.
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Krissy366
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June 15, 2012 07:46
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I've switched just about everything in our house without telling my two young kids (7&4) to all natural products( I.E. natural jiff peanut butter the ingredients are peanut butter and palm oil) Having a diabetic grandfather I use to eat and snack with him growing up which was pretty bland when it came to ingredients in taste so I knew my biggest challenge was keeping them wanting to eat healthy. Our household in my opinion would rank at the 7.5 or 8 out of 10 for the health factor when it comes to food and the kids eat really wellm here's how we did it. Starting with my 4 year old, he would wake up all hours of the night , be hyper etc. Most people called it being a kid but my wife and I knew it was his diet. We went though the cupboards and ditched anything that had preservatives and or sugary. Product number one was Nutella! You might as well be feeding your kids cotton candy with this stuff. Instead of sugar we use stevia in the raw which is a plant that is 300% more sweeter than sugar but has zero calories, does not effect the glucose spiking our kids blood sugar making it safe for diabetics as well. We took the stevia and baked cookies, cakes, fresh squeezed lemonade. We also created a shelf in the fridge thats strictly for the kids, if they want a snack they can help themselves as much as they want from that shelf only. On that shelf is string cheese, yogurts lots of fruit pre-peeled and cut up if needed. This takes all the thinking out of "what should I eat" for them. So although the foods that they eat may seem like the sugary stuff they like, there is in fact no sugar in them which allows their pancreas to stay steady with the insulin production keeping them from going crazy candy freaks then crashing into naps which messes up their sleep patterns causing them to wake me up through the night
I applaud you and wish more parents were like this. I get that parenting is tough - and I get that it's a whole new battle once kids are school aged and influenced by outside forces, but I hate when I see little kids walking around with bags of chips or candy or just eating junk in general. At early ages there is no one responsible for their food but you (with occassional exceptions). I saw a woman on the bus recently repeatedly giving her kid Starbursts. The kid couldn't have been more than 3 and in the 10 minute bus ride had eaten 3 Starbursts, which the mother clearly bought and provided for her. It's just so unnecessary. You get a few scant years to completely control diet and influence their choices, why in the hell would you introduce that junk? And I know for some people they just don't know any better. I just wish more people knew better.
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bluiz13
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June 15, 2012 07:52
i dont pity her....i want her to be healthy...just because i dont enjoy being around her does not mean i dont want what is best for her....if there was nothing to love about this "poor child" i would have said screw it let her get bigger..BUT i'm not, i want to help her...seriously why do you think i asked for help with this....i'm pretty surprised by some of the replies but i guess that is what happens when you ask for opinions....no worries, i will work with her when i go home and i will work with my parents (her grandparents) and i will do what i can....that is all anyone can do....denise
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You're very sweet, but please for the love of humanity find something you can love and cherish about this poor girl instead of just acting out of pity. Then play up on that. People sense how you really feel, whether they consciously know it or not. There has to be something worth loving about the poor child, so find it!
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bluiz13
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June 15, 2012 07:53
thank you very much...well said and pretty much what i think i'm going to do....
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I would suggest letting her talk to you about her health/weight and ask about your journey. Tell her what you did, what you went through as a teenager etc. Rather than a "you should do this...you need to do this..." conversation. Just listen to her story and then share yours. Offer to be a long distant support and sounding board. To truly make a difference, simply be an example while home. Teenagers will watch and learn from what they see and respond to that far more than they will to advice, not matter how well meaning.
Lead by example. Try and influence the food choices while visiting. Talk to your Dad and Step-mom about balancing their meals more to have a better variety and options so she can have choices. Most likey you will not be able to turn them into a full-blown healthy house but if you cook a few really tasty yet good for you meals, leave them with examples on how to change it up etc. You have a shot at leaving after vacation with a real impression and example.
Just my .02
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bluiz13
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June 15, 2012 08:00
it does have to do with her grandparents who she lives with and if you read other things that i have replied to on this post I AM GOING to have a talk with them as well...my stepmom will be far more help than my dad who is clueless and honestly not a great role model....my step mom is just overwhelmed with having another child to raise after her 2 grew up and as sad as it is to say has pretty much just given up so my niece is suffering because of lack of interest. i want them all to change and make better choices but i am primarily concerned with chelsie and that is what i am going to work on while i'm there.....
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i really dont understand why people think an overweight child's weight has nothing to do with the parents.
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stubbysticks
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June 15, 2012 08:02
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I think it's great that you're concerned and want to see her making more healthy choices.
With that said, you said you're not close, you never see her, she's a pain in the ass, and you perceive her as having many issues. She is probably likewise not under the illusion that the two of you are close. My recommendation would be to walk away slowly and leave it up to someone else. There's just about no possible way any sort of conversation can occur with a positive outcome given this set of circumstances. In terms of how ideal the situation is, I would rank it slightly below walking up to a complete stranger and beginning a conversation with, "So, I noticed you're fat..."
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THIS.
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