No no, if there was pity the first hug would've been enough. I say the second hug was a reassurance, or maybe he just wanted to feel your arms around him again. Two and a half hours talking and two (I assume) great hugs, makes a wonderful first date!

He left you wanting more didn't he..? Sounds promising to me...

way to make yourself sound like a complete asshat! Ugh youre gross.

OP, I def wouldn't stay with someone long after the bill is given if I didnt like them. Always give themthe benefitof the doubt, you are still new to him and he probably truly wanted to hang with a old buddy. Shoot him off a text and see how it is received, good luck sweetie! xoxo

** I guess his rude comment got deleted, thank goodness!!**

asshat...that just made my morning! And I agree, it sounds like it went really well so the friend thing is probably legit. Hope it works out, keep us posted! :)

When I wake up dehydrated in the previous night's clothes?

It sounds like it went great! When it's hard to leave and hard to stop talking, it is a really good sign. The last first date I ever had lasted 14 hours (we wern't naughty, I swear!!). We just couldn't stop talking. That was 3 years ago and my husband and I haven't been apart since :) I wish you the same happiness!!

Well from the way I'm picturing it from your description is that yes it did and your date likes you! Couldn't imagine someone going in for a second hug with someone they didn't want to :)

It's LA. I think he probably has cause to at least recognize the possibility :)

It really depends on the guy, though. Keep lines of communication open without looking needy and neurotic and you should get a better feel for how he thought the date went.

Yeah, don't be a Carrie Bradshaw about it (quite possibly the most irritating TV character EVER), but definitely keep communication lines open. Like we all said though, it sounds like it went well!

And yeah, in LA it's hard to know who to trust so being weary is going to happen.

Sex...

If she puts her lips around the tip of your....

Sounds like it went fine. Send him a text telling him you had a good time.

Well suspecting of lying is a bit strong. I don't really consider making excuses to prevent hurting another person by telling the truth to be really lying.

I know everyone is being positive, but if I didn't know in advance that he had to leave, I'd be unimpressed and wouldn't be asking for a second date. But I'm a big b#tch. Let him come to you.

~ When you never want the night to end .... Sigh ~

LOL I hear ya. I should point out that on parting we did discuss meeting again sometime next weekend. Though of course that needn't mean anything either.

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I don't know it. I just feel it!

I wish I could. I'm terrible at this kind of thing.

Yep, like others are saying, it sounds like it went well. The time you spent with him is a significant amount of time for a first date - spending hours and hours together on a first date isn't always everyones choice. If you go on another one, then the first went well!

Ok, but he didn't respond today to my text of "Thanks I had a great time." Granted, I have been chatting with him for about 2 months and he often went days without responding. I suppose it's a pattern.

I don't know but it sounds like "he's just not that into you". Perhaps you are on different levels . . . . maybe he just wants a great friend and you want more?

Totally agree with this.

ok so here is the update. I texted him on Saturday thanking him and saying I had a nice time. He has yet to respond. OUCH! I mean isn't that common courtesy to at least say likewise or something back?

I had a bit of an epiphany about it in think over what happened. In the beginning of the date, we were outside for about half an hour waiting for out table at the restaurant. He was very flirty and fun in demeanor, and did this thing where he was playing with the glare of the sun by having me stand in front of it and block it for him because I am tall. He did it in a flirty way, not just a practical one.

I think the shift in his demeanor happened when we ordered. He wanted to split the food and at that time I was forced to tell him I was a vegetarian because he wanted to get something meat-based. I thought initially he took it well but in hindsight I don't think so. I was very diplomatic about it and made no speeches about animal rights or anything like that. I just said I don't like it so I don't eat it and didn't press the point. I think the nail in the coffin was after we had decided on food the waiter came over and asked about drinks. I said diet coke, the waiter then went to him and asked about wine. He ended up ordering iced tea. I then told him that I don't drink because I take a pill that interacts with it. I think that was the nail in the coffin. His demeanor toward me after that was perceptibly different. And now that I think about it, all of the time I have been texting him he would mention to me quite often that he was drinking. !!!

I think this guy obviously really likes his drink, and is not looking for someone who abstains. The meat part was one thing, the drinking another. Maybe this is all wishful thinking because I am hurt he obviously didn't like me but I could have sworn he was quite different in the beginning toward me before these revelations.

Tbh if he lets a silly reason like food choices or drinking preferences changed how he feels about you then he's not worth your time! I'm a meat lover but am happy for someone I date to be a veggie - as long as they don't force it down my throat so to speak, it s the same as religion, believe, practice what you want, but I'll do what I want too! I would never dream of making a veggie eat meat. As for the drinking thing, it's quite common for people that drink a lot to not understand why you don't want to - I used to go out and drink but when I had the kids I cut right back - nothing worse than a hangover with 2 babies! But when I go out now I'll have none or one - people look at me like I'm an alien! My teetotal friend has the same issues - and we always get the 20 questions about why...


I'd say you could do much better, forget him and move on! X

Had you told him before the date that you were vegetarian and that you don't drink? I'm getting the sense that you didn't say anything to him ahead of time. Those are some pretty important things to let your date know about ahead a time just as if your a smoker or have a certain religious belief. Then followed up by your feelings about others who eat meat and drink. If that line of communication had there the outcome could have been quite different. After reading everything I"m going to safely say he's not feeling it. To be quite honest it doesn't sound like he was worth you time anyway. The whole thing about meeting up with his friend, that was his way out of the date. That is something he would have know ahead of time and should have communicated to you before the date.

The best thing that you can do is learn from this, don't let it get to you there is no guy out there worth getting down about. Just put it in the past and say it's his loss! Stay true to yourself, believe in yourself and never have any sort of expectations on the first date.