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June 4, 2012 6:00 AM
I think with some small adjustments the end of the day summary could be so much more encouraging! I don't know how anyone can exactly eat their goal calories each day because it's so precise. Everybody can get close enough, though!

I can be two calories under, and it tells me in bold red letters I'm not eating enough and warns me about starvation mode. If I'm two calories over, I have that glaring red "-2" in my remaining calories showing that I went over. Always having those red "negative" reports is discouraging. I know in my mind that I'm close enough to get good results, but it feels like I can't do it "right."


Why could we not, instead, have a very encouraging, "Congratulations, you were within an acceptable range for your calorie intake today! Keep up the good work!" This message could come with the summary report in blue print, and remaining calories over or under within a 50-calorie range, could also show in blue.

If one is constantly within that range, reaching goal weight will happen. Some days it will be a little over, and other days will be a little under, but I can know that I'm on the right track every day when my report turns blue! So encouraging!
  20385140
June 8, 2012 3:33 PM
The reason it's telling you you're eating too little isn't because you were under, it's because the number is below the threshold that MFP has deemed as safe to eat for a prolonged time.

When I had my goal set at 1200, had this problem all the time. Ate under, and got the warning. Ate over and got the big red numbers. That's when I looked into WHY 1200 is the lowest acceptable number for intake. When I put my goal up to a much safer 1700, I don't get the warning anymore - unless I go under the 1200 again.

Muchhhh happier :)
  22788463
June 8, 2012 3:51 PM
I do agree with the above poster that the reason you are getting a warning for going under is only because you are already set at the very lowest calorie level to begin with. And, it might actually be too low for you anyway.

However, I really do wish MFP would let us set a goal range instead of a number. I could eat up to 300 calories UNDER my goal (which would not be good for me at all), and I would get a happy congratulatory message and notice posted to all my friends saying that I was "under my calorie goal!" Yet if I eat exactly my goal, my friends are only told that I completed my diary -- nothing about how I ate exactly my goal for them to congratulate me on. And if I eat one single calorie over, I get that awful red number!

As it is right now, the system encourages people to set their calorie goal as low as possible, and then encourages them to consistently come in UNDER that already low number. It would be so much nicer if we had a range, with the low number being "eat AT LEAST this much," and the high number being "no more than this," and we could all get a congratulatory message when we've stayed inside our range.

In the meantime, I suppose you could think about what your range would be, and set your calorie goal at the high number.
  6547793
June 8, 2012 3:55 PM
Range would be much better than the present all or nothing. Another pet peeve is the red negative numbers when you go over on things like Vitamin C. There's no harm in having "too much" Vitamin C, at least up to some multiple of the RDA.
  13285248
June 8, 2012 4:05 PM
QUOTE:

Range would be much better than the present all or nothing. Another pet peeve is the red negative numbers when you go over on things like Vitamin C. There's no harm in having "too much" Vitamin C, at least up to some multiple of the RDA.


I completely agree. Since things like protein, fiber and vitamins are shown at the minimum amounts you should have, maybe they should stay red until you reach the goal and then turn green. This would also help with all the people who keep asking questions like "what if I go over on my protein?"
Edited by yentess On June 8, 2012 4:05 PM
June 8, 2012 6:13 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Range would be much better than the present all or nothing. Another pet peeve is the red negative numbers when you go over on things like Vitamin C. There's no harm in having "too much" Vitamin C, at least up to some multiple of the RDA.


I completely agree. Since things like protein, fiber and vitamins are shown at the minimum amounts you should have, maybe they should stay red until you reach the goal and then turn green. This would also help with all the people who keep asking questions like "what if I go over on my protein?"


Oh, that would be awesome! :)
  6547793
June 8, 2012 6:18 PM
I loveeee this!
June 8, 2012 6:20 PM
That's what "buddies" are for! Don't beat yourself up! ;)
  23263306
June 8, 2012 6:20 PM
QUOTE:

I think with some small adjustments the end of the day summary could be so much more encouraging! I don't know how anyone can exactly eat their goal calories each day because it's so precise. Everybody can get close enough, though!
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Focus on the part where it says "If every day were like today in 5 weeks you would weigh...." that way if its less than your current weight you are still in the green in my books!
June 8, 2012 6:21 PM
What I did at first to avoid that is increase my daily calorie goal to 1250.
You could try that or a different number and just try to get at least 1200 but not more than your goal
  9395949
June 8, 2012 6:24 PM
Do you have your goal for weight lose set to high?
  15479450
June 8, 2012 6:25 PM
Would be nice if it was in the black...
June 8, 2012 10:37 PM
I also agree that the numbers can be confusing. Fiber is green if it's too low - but being low on fiber is bad, not good. So fiber should be red until I reach my goal, and then turn green. Similar for protein. I don't care if it's too high, but I do care if it's too low. This area of the app definitely needs some tweaking.
  23117420
June 11, 2012 7:35 AM
I understand the settings and why I'm getting the reports I do. (My calories for the day are a reflection of needing to lose weight, but being short/small framed, so there isn't a better way to calculate a deficit for losing the pound or two a week that taller/larger people can. That's a conversation for another area of the board, if it needed to be discussed. Perhaps I should change my calorie goal to 1250, like one poster mentioned.) That's not the issue. It's that "negative" and "red" feedback, i.e. "something's not the way it should be" feedback at the end of every day. This is a board for website suggestions, so I'm saying that if a person is within an acceptable range for the day, there should be some positive feedback that tells me I'm doing well. I can function okay with the settings the way they are. I'm using the MFP site, and I'm getting results, but this is a place for offering ideas that can make it better, and I wanted to say that I, personally, and perhaps others would feel more encouraged if our end-of-the-day report showed that we did something right.

So, as another person suggested - an acceptable range as a goal instead of a specific calorie number could be a good thing. It should be easy to set up by simply showing the numbers in blue or black instead of red if the total is within +50/-50 or +100/-100 of the number specified as ideal. The end of the day report could have an encouraging message telling me I did well, and my working to be fit will pay off!

An additional option might be to add to the daily report a four-day or a seven-day statement. As in, "You have been over/under your 4-day goal by "this" much. Sometimes I'm too far under one day, but I make sure to make up for it the following day. This is important, since, as you've observed by goal is already at the lowest because of my height and my goals. Also, for many people, if there is a special occasion where the routine has varied (party, wedding, travel, etc.) and they've gone over, they can balance it out the next day. This can be another aspect to supporting the idea of an appropriate calorie range.

I also agree that having other colors for fiber, vitamin C, etc., (things you can't really have too much of,) would be a good thing!
Edited by spedabstbit On June 11, 2012 7:52 AM
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