I agree I've been doing that the last week and 2 lbs went bye bye!

This past week I ate less and worked out a little more and lost 2 lbs!

Aaaaaamen!

I wasn't ever fat, and some days I can't reach my calories.


I also like being contrary!

My husband just had a bout of kidney stones. He didn't eat for 3 days and when he weighed in--he weighed more than he has this whole year. Be wise, focus on BALANCED NUTRITION and FITNESS. Best wishes to all!!

hmmm. I ate very little for years it only exasperated my problem. I'm realizing that I need to eat more. Not everybody burns the same, have you heard of thyroid issues? Most people with thyroid conditions are told to eat 800 calories a day and do and nothing happens...how do you figure that one.

Two words:
Water weight.

People don't magically gain body mass from nothing. If anyone can provide concrete evidence of that happening, every physicist on earth would love to hear from you.

I had mono once, I didn't eat for 1.5 months. I slept a lot, I ate like 2 bowls of cereal, and a little broth during that time...my tonsils were too swollen to eat, I loathed it. I did not LOSE ANYTHING! I lost my muscle tone is all. lol

When u dont eat enough, u can lose weight. But it's ab losing quality weight. You have to fuel ur body enough & properly to lose that quality weight, tht being fat. Those who eat so low w/ major burns are losing some muscle. & muscles weighs more than fat, so yeah.

Considering thyroid conditions serious enough to make weight loss impossible are generally fatal within a few years if untreated, not many people running around with that issue. I have a couple of friends who have legitimate thyroid issues (surprise surprise, neither of them are obese, although maybe on the border of overweight), and feel bad for them having to listen to people who are just fat and unable to accept accountability talk about their "thyroid" and "metabolism" issues.

Edit: Not telling you you don't need to eat more, but if you have a serious thyroid issue, you need to be getting medical treatment to keep your hormone levels healthy. If your hormone levels are within normal bounds, you have no reason why you can't lose weight the same as someone without a thyroid issue.

You totally do not get it do you? Eating more is NOT eating becuase you cannot stop or eating any amount - it is eating to a goal that is below TDEE - but eating at a reasonable deficit.

There is so much FAIL in the thread.

And OP: I really am not sure what point you are trying to make, except start yet another thread on starvation mode (which always end up the same)

Oh: and BTW love your sweeping assumption about wishful eating. People that have a higher calories target but BELOW TDEE, do not need to do as much wishful eating - they can do more actual eating (and still lose weight).

Starvation mode doesn't exist? a 300+ man doing 1,300 calories a day for 5 weeks, plus exercise. Speak from "EXPERIENCE" not from some word of mouth.

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let me correct your statement. Eat less, lose muscle mass, slow down your metabolic rate, and metabolic rate via thyroid function, get fatter

Go drink a liter of water then weigh yourself.

This man wins the internet for today (and yeah, I won it in the 'can I have a boyfriend and still have male friends' thread earlier...so it's mine to give).

Well said brother.

Thanks chris, as you know this used to be our debate. My new saying is, "If you never been in it, you won't believe it."

Yep...it was. It's funny though...we sort of gravitated towards each others thinking. I'm dedicated to IF now. Same deal as you...you don't really have a leg to stand on until you try it.

I had an abscess removed from my throat when I was 17. I couldn't eat solids for a week, and struggled sipping soup and water for about another week. I went from 150lbs down to 138lbs. Of course as soon as I could eat, however, the weight just flew back on..even with a reasonable diet .

Not sure if you remember, but that's where we met. I made a topic of IF and I got bashed for it. People still had the "eat 6x a day mentality." People who learn from their mistakes, and make proper adjustments, do end up in the same place.

I do, and that's why I made that point just now lol. Between IF and starvation mode (what a stupid name for it)...we both had it part right.

I honestly don't know if starvation mode exisists or not!! However, when I started here on 1200 I lost 4lb over the first four weeks (I have not got that much to lose to be a healthy ~BMI but still enough to need to lose it lol) After 4 weeks I stopped and stayed the same weight for 6 weeks so far :( despite not going over cals and doing exercise that I had not been doing before. After about 4 weeks of no movement I was starting to get upset since I don't know what to do so I increased my cals by between 200-400 but also started adding in more intensive exercise (as compared to walking only) and I am still the same weight , not moving at all, but not gaining having eaten a larger amount!!! I am however a lot less tired than before and I am hoping that the weight loss will start to kick in soon now that I am eating more. I suppose my moral is, eating more is better for me generally even if I am not yet losing more weight.
PS I eat fairly clean anyway if you ignore the glasses of wine and I don't think I was eating that much before I started on here but obviously something was going on as I had gained weight.

Can someone answer this for me please? What happens if you net an average of 1000 calories a day and never move to maintenance? I have to take being concerned about actual health and body composition out of this. People who are concerned about that don't do this or they don't do it for long. Can they just perpetually carry on? If your goal is to be thin and nothing else would netting 1000 cals a day work long term? It's so difficult for me to imagine how anyone thinks this is a good idea....unless in this specific way it works. Am I just seeing the beginning phase of yo-to dieters here? If they only want to be thin, or a certain size, could they pull it off for the rest of their lives by never moving to maintenance?

I ***think*** that your metabolism will level off at some point to that 1000 calories.First you'll lose fat and muscle, but eventually you won't lose or gain. Probably you would risk developing nutritional deficiencies, since it would be hard to eat a complete and balanced diet with sub-1000 cals/day.

Bascially, if you do not lose or gain at 1000 - that is your maintenance.