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May 25, 2012 12:17 AM
yep
Edited by aimstein On May 25, 2012 12:19 AM
May 25, 2012 12:20 AM
nope
May 25, 2012 12:21 AM
Yes, I agree. I love this site but I find myself needing to defend IF I do post on something. A lot of negativity. I'm just waiting for something sarcastic now... *sigh*
There is so much good info but the negative seems to take over. What happend to being civil and supportive?
I'm sorry for you encounter.
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May 25, 2012 1:05 AM
A few years ago....it was all support. You can definitely find support here now....just gotta look A LOT harder. Look for support from your close friends on here.....just sayin......
May 25, 2012 3:33 AM
As sites gain more members, the trolls come out. People forget that there are real people on the other side of that computer screen, and they say things they'd never say in real life. It's a sad fact of the internet. Don't let it chase you off though. The new groups feature is AWESOME. You never have to go in the main forums again if you don't want to, and I've noticed that in the smaller groups, there's a lot more positivity and support. :)
May 25, 2012 3:36 AM
Nah, it's just the forums. The rest of the site is great.
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May 25, 2012 3:36 AM
I'm sick of the trolls

like REALLY sick of them.

Other than that, it's fine. I just keep myself to myself now which is a shame because I used to like the forums!
May 25, 2012 3:38 AM
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I'm sick of the pro-anorexia/bulimia trolls

like REALLY sick of them.

Other than that, it's fine. I just keep myself to myself now which is a shame because I used to like the forums!


Ugh me too!!!
May 25, 2012 3:40 AM
I have been thinking the same thing for a while. All fluff, no hard-core support, ideas, encouragement, etc. I used to get on here about a year and 1/2 ago and it was ALL diet, exercise, food ideas, struggle sharing, etc. NOW it just seems to be fun and games and ridiculous posts about favorite movies and "advice columns for lonely hearts". I'm still here because of the ease of logging food and keep track of progress, but I rarely post or read the message board. There seems to be no point anymore.
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May 25, 2012 3:54 AM
No, it's the best.
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May 25, 2012 3:56 AM
Still not as bad as caloriecount.
May 25, 2012 5:09 AM
I cannot speak from previous experience as I just started using the forums, but I can say that it is not very "newcomer friendly". What I mean by that is that most forums, when you introduce yourself, you typically get several replies welcoming you, etc etc. I introduced myself yesterday and got not one reply. Not exactly welcoming.
May 25, 2012 5:23 AM
QUOTE:

I have been thinking the same thing for a while. All fluff, no hard-core support, ideas, encouragement, etc. I used to get on here about a year and 1/2 ago and it was ALL diet, exercise, food ideas, struggle sharing, etc. NOW it just seems to be fun and games and ridiculous posts about favorite movies and "advice columns for lonely hearts". I'm still here because of the ease of logging food and keep track of progress, but I rarely post or read the message board. There seems to be no point anymore.

Maybe you should stay out of the chitchat forum if you don't like chitchat.
May 25, 2012 5:24 AM
QUOTE:

I cannot speak from previous experience as I just started using the forums, but I can say that it is not very "newcomer friendly". What I mean by that is that most forums, when you introduce yourself, you typically get several replies welcoming you, etc etc. I introduced myself yesterday and got not one reply. Not exactly welcoming.


Don't take it personally. There are SO many new threads posted all the time, and with so many different sections of the forums, a lot of times people just go to the "recent posts" link instead of clicking on the individual sections, and a lot of times a thread will get bumped down out of there really quickly. Just jump in. :)
May 25, 2012 5:34 AM
I've been here for a while but I deactivated my account and just recently came back (hence the join date).. and yes it has definitely gone downhill. Everyone is ripping eachother apart. There is no support anymore, or you have to really search for it.
May 25, 2012 6:09 AM
I was a little dismayed by the lack of support but decided it all comes down to me. I do wish that on some of the posts/questions I asked I would have had responses. There are some posts that seem ridiculous and have nothing to do with losing weight, exercising, or meal planning which is why I signed joined. Again, I try to use this as a tool to hold myself accountable.
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May 25, 2012 6:12 AM
I disagree. I quite enjoy this site and find both the tools and people helpful.
The only real rips I see are in the Chit-Chat/Fun section, which are obviously going to happen in a chat section. In the Motivation, Success Stories, Fitness, etc there are tons of people constantly supporting and giving advice. Now obviously there are instances where people disagree on a piece of advice or people get annoyed when a question like "should I eat my exercise calories" appears for the 30th time in an hour and the person clearly hasn't even bothered to search and see that there a million posts of that same question with answers. When those instances arise, there can be some disagreement, however, this is a small percentage. In the Chit-Chat it is trolly city, as I would expect it to be. But if you question the support aspect, just go to sections like Success Stories and Motivation - there are endless lists of recent posts with countless people giving positive support and advice.

Also, for the best support - make friends with supportive members on here. I see people who are exchanging positive comments 20 times a day with their new friends.
Edited by futuremalestripper On May 25, 2012 6:13 AM
May 25, 2012 6:17 AM
I have definitely found a lot of support here, and I've tried to build my groups and friends around that. I think this is an awesome tool! So thankful for it, actually.

I think the nature of online communities is that they tend to imitate real life, and we have to navigate it as such: we choose whom we interact with and how.

Just a thought, - which I need to remind myself of... Make sure that if you're looking for support, you're giving it too. That's what makes stuff like this work. Just like life.
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May 25, 2012 6:23 AM
I think it's fantastic. Maybe I'm just not sensitive. I find nothing but awesome positive support.

I have seen this a lot on other forums too, and when people provide other points of views, some people take that as arguing or bashing or whatever. Too sensitive, my friends. This is an anonymous Internet forum. People are going to have different points of views. You should read them, consider them, do some research and think about what others are saying. I think a community that just cheers you on is a bad community. What if you are doing it wrong?

So, cheer up and enjoy the ride. Don't be so sensitive about it. Think of it more as a stream of conscienceness thing. The information here is top notch. And I find the support to be top notch too.

Again, I'm not very sensitive to people I don't care about or that don't share my views, so maybe it's easier for me to find the bits that make me happy.
May 25, 2012 6:37 AM
I love this site and it's much better than a forum I used to belong to. Those people were MEAN!

When I have posted to the message boards, people have been supportive and helpful. Even when I was a newbie and pulled a classic rookie mistake by posting a topic that's been done to death (I didn't know I could search at that time), I got tons of valuable responses and no one was rude or unkind.

The internet is just like real life - lots of different characters and personalities, but it's taken up a notch because we can hide behind our anonymous profiles. But also like real life, you learn who the encouraging people are, surround yourself with them and ignore the trolls.
May 25, 2012 7:00 AM
I've found when you "invite" friends, you do get really good response and I've made some nice friends. As far as sharing tips and info, I've tried but there doesn't seem to be much interest. I think everyone has their own ideas/plans and they tend to stick with their own program. Anyway, best of luck to all my pals.

Regards
Janet
May 25, 2012 7:39 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I cannot speak from previous experience as I just started using the forums, but I can say that it is not very "newcomer friendly". What I mean by that is that most forums, when you introduce yourself, you typically get several replies welcoming you, etc etc. I introduced myself yesterday and got not one reply. Not exactly welcoming.


Don't take it personally. There are SO many new threads posted all the time, and with so many different sections of the forums, a lot of times people just go to the "recent posts" link instead of clicking on the individual sections, and a lot of times a thread will get bumped down out of there really quickly. Just jump in. :)


Life is to short to take anything personally :-)
And I have never been shy about sharing my opinions, so jump in I did...
May 25, 2012 8:56 PM
Only been here 102 days, but I like the site. Yes,, there are trolls, but they are everywhere in life, there are people who are too 'short' with their answers which come off as sarcastic or rude instead of simpy tired of reanswering the same questions... I do think some people should avoid certain forums if they are tired of seeing the same discussion again and again.... But they seem inten of going back... Go figure.

There are some very helpful, great hearted people on this board. And with a bit of reading it doesn't take long to find them. And I've made 'friends' on here - which I never expected or planned...

The tools is good, the database is ok (could use clean up !) and the community is very good relative to many other Internet communities I've been involved with.

One negative I see is the pace at which some of the forum topics spin past as there are so many people all over the world reading and posting in the same forum. It does make some conversations end abruptly, or never get started (welcome to the board damion!) perhaps a few regional forums for food type discussions or other alternatives so people spread out a bit... There is a large enough community on here to support a hater number of defined forums I think.... But all in all. It has been a great tool for me, I've learned a ton, and while it may not be what it was in 'the good old days' .. ... Nothing ever is.
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May 25, 2012 9:18 PM
I LOVE THIS SITE!!! The information provided has been very helpful and folks are very encouraging. I noticed a little bickering but I usually just ignore those replies and continue to scroll down.

My *ONLY* problem with this site is purely technical -- if I try to search for something on the forums I can't go backwards once I've clicked on link. So if I want to go back to the results I basically have to search all over again. Of course, this may not be MFP's problem -- it may just be my browser, or my OS. Either way, NOT A BIG DEAL.

I want to thank everyone here. You wouldn't believe how much I lean on everyone's responses -- successes and failures -- to keep me motivated. If you are unhappy with a few people, don't let it prevent you from connecting with people like me who really appreciate you sharing your experiences in this shared journey.
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May 25, 2012 9:44 PM
For the most part I love the site! There are things I don't like but I'll never find a site to stick with that I love everything about and hate nothing, ya know?

The pros of this site out weigh the cons for me, and if it were the other way around, I would not be here. Honestly if someone has more cons for this place then pros then why are they still here? (In general not directed at anyone just my opinion.)

My pros are too many to name but my cons...

Cons:

1. Too many people on the forum that think just because it works for them it'll work for everyone else. Not everyone is motivated the same way as the next person, not everyone is built the same way as the next person, not everyone can lose weight by eating their workout calories back, those threads that tell people that they should do it their way piss me off. The threads that start out asking a question and you get the "Oh you are on 1200 calories? You can't lean out on 1200 calories, you can lose weight for long on that, you need more." really? Like you know what's best for me! Those piss me off.

2. I hate that SOME people on this site, make you feel like you have to spell everything out, because they will take you wrong if you don't.

3. Some times I feel like I talk to myself a lot on here lol. It's not a bad thing really, I talk to myself a lot in real life. I have kids so apparently since my son (the only one old enough to really obey) refuses to mind me, he thinks I'm talking to myself.

4. If you post a thread that has been started before, you get ass holes that come in and like to act all superior and tell you to search. Yup it's wise to search but some times people are in a hurry, and being an ass about it, isn't going to make me go do what you suggest, honestly it'll piss me off and I'm likely to tell you where to shove it!

5. People who think it's their duty to point out every little spelling and grammar error. I didn't graduate high school, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. For the most part, I'm pretty smart, I'm not perfect and spelling and grammar are not my strong point. However, i taught myself everything I know, and I know quite a bit. I don't need some spelling grammar nazi to try and make me feel dumb. I'm on here to lose weight, not be picked apart for other self esteem issues I've had/have. This is suppose to be a support site, so how about you stop finding something to pick someone apart with and start supporting like the rest of us are trying to do. I am naturally a nice person till ya piss me off. I can be your best friend or your worst enemy but I leave that to you to decide.

And before anyone decides to judge me on quitting high school, remember you don't know my story ;)
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