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May 22, 2012 8:56 AM
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I wish MFP was a little less weight-centered and a little more centered on overall body improvement. As many of us who have been here for a while know, weight is not always a good measure of progress. For example, I've gained weight in the last month but my measurements and BF% have gone down. It's kind of discouraging when my ticker is showing that I'm making the opposite of progress, when really I'm heading in the direction I want to head in!

Basically, it would be awesome if we could set a goal for inches lost, or a reduction in BF%, instead of JUST weight. I think everyone has different types of goals and it would be awesome to see that reflected more around the site (and maybe it would even reduce the amount of "OMG I gained a pound" threads wink )
May 22, 2012 9:01 AM
I agree. I would definitely use the BF% since I'm actually working on that rather than scale weight. I need to remove my weight ticker since it's useless now!
May 22, 2012 9:03 AM
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I agree. I would definitely use the BF% since I'm actually working on that rather than scale weight. I need to remove my weight ticker since it's useless now!


Haha yep, same! I just removed mine a minute ago. It still shows up on my profile, though.
May 22, 2012 9:18 AM
It would be nice to have body fat percentage on the ticker. There are already ways of tracking inches lost, body fat percentage and virtually anything you want on the site.

I know you won't like this, but weight does tend to decline as you lose body fat. Weight is not the only measure, but it's still a critical one.
Edited by mfpcopine On May 22, 2012 9:20 AM
May 22, 2012 9:21 AM
developing healthy self esteem and over all body image will be really good.
May 22, 2012 9:22 AM
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If you are embarrassed that your ticker looks wrong, then don't report your weight. It's pretty simple....

If you don't like the way MFP is set up, go elsewhere.


Thank you for your encouraging and helpful post!!! grumble

Notice that we are in the "Website suggestions/feedback" section of the forums. If you don't like seeing people's suggestions and feedback, go elsewhere.
Edited by LaurenAOK On May 22, 2012 9:23 AM
May 22, 2012 9:23 AM
That's not a bad idea, actually. Have the option of showing different stats in the ticker, if that's what you want to track (be it weight, measurements, body fat percentage, etc).

I don't remember whether MFP currently has a way of tracking body fat percentage, but that should be no big deal to add. It's just another user-entered piece of data, like weight is now.
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May 22, 2012 9:25 AM
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It would be nice to have body fat percentage on the ticker. There are already ways of tracking inches lost, body fat percentage and virtually anything you want on the site.


Yeah, I already have a category for body fat percentage set up in the weigh in section, so that's cool. I just wish there was a way to base my goals around that instead of around just weight.
May 22, 2012 9:26 AM
I'd like to second:

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If you are embarrassed that your ticker looks wrong, then don't report your weight. It's pretty simple....


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Weight is not the only measure, but it's still a critical one.


Also, while weight is relatively easy to measure, body fat percentage is actually fairly tough to estimate. Even the best methods (which most of us cannot afford to use on a regular basis) are just estimates. The estimates of body fat percentage that I commonly see used the site, such as calipers, scales, and handheld meters have a lot of issues with measurement error, which is a fancy way of saying they aren't particularly good estimates. Even as measures of progress they have serious issues (i.e. on two consecutive days, you could get different readings, even though your body fat levels can't really have changed that much).

If you don't like to see your ticker changing in the "wrong" direction, don't update it.
Edited by mellisant On May 22, 2012 9:27 AM
May 22, 2012 9:28 AM
I too am not a fan of the inches lost section, as it only shows you over a weeks time rather than stats like excel spreadsheet style, So i made my own spreadsheet to track body fat percentage and inches lost so I can see the progress there better.

Can you put in your own ticket? Like from the website tickerfactory.com? They have a BMI ticker.
Edited by StarvingDiva On May 22, 2012 9:30 AM
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May 22, 2012 9:29 AM
I don't look at this site as being about losing weight at all. I use it as a tool to help me focus on eating healthy and getting back to being active again. If I lose weight in the process that is great. I do have a ticker on my profile but it is there because a scale is the easiest way for most of us to "see" if we are in line with our goals.

We can also track inches lost on MFP, not many categories though. Perhaps you could make your suggestions to MFP. I am sure they take suggestions. Body fat percentage is harder to measure for most of us.

And once you do get to a healthy weight you want to ensure that you maintain the healthy weight, this is a great place to help you keep track of it. When I get there I certainly plan to continue to keep track of myself. I never want to have to do this over again.
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May 22, 2012 9:29 AM
Weight is the only "measuring stick" that I'm really familiar and comfortable with using. I know that my BF will drop when I lose weight. My risks for high blood pressure and diabetes will also go down when I lose weight, as will my risk for heart disease.
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May 22, 2012 9:30 AM
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Also, while weight is relatively easy to measure, body fat percentage is actually fairly tough to estimate. Even the best methods (which most of us cannot afford to use on a regular basis) are just estimates. The estimates of body fat percentage that I commonly see used the site, such as calipers, scales, and handheld meters have a lot of issues with measurement error, which is a fancy way of saying they aren't particularly good estimates. Even as measures of progress they have serious issues (i.e. on two consecutive days, you could get different readings, even though your body fat levels can't really have changed that much).


While that's all true, that doesn't affect what MFP would have to implement in the least. All of the "check-in" stats, including weight, measurements, or body fat percentage, are just user-entered data. The accuracy of that data is up to the user, and MFP doesn't have to care. We're just talking about displaying a different stat on the ticker.
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May 22, 2012 9:32 AM
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Weight is not the only measure, but it's still a critical one.


Also, while weight is relatively easy to measure, body fat percentage is actually fairly tough to estimate. Even the best methods (which most of us cannot afford to use on a regular basis) are just estimates. The estimates of body fat percentage that I commonly see used the site, such as calipers, scales, and handheld meters have a lot of issues with measurement error, which is a fancy way of saying they aren't particularly good estimates. Even as measures of progress they have serious issues (i.e. on two consecutive days, you could get different readings, even though your body fat levels can't really have changed that much).

If you don't like to see your ticker changing in the "wrong" direction, don't update it.


Fair points. But even though body fat is an estimate, I could still track if it's going up or down. I do understand that weight is important - I've lost 15 pounds and I'm extremely proud of that! I guess my point was that it's not the ONLY important factor.
May 22, 2012 9:32 AM
Funny, I did a search to see if there were tickers out there for BF% so maybe you could add your own and found people complaining of the same thing on SparkPeople. Couldn't find any tickers though, sorry. ohwell
May 22, 2012 9:33 AM
I think a BF% ticker would be a nice addition.
Edited by deadstarsunburn On May 22, 2012 9:34 AM
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May 22, 2012 9:33 AM
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Also, while weight is relatively easy to measure, body fat percentage is actually fairly tough to estimate. Even the best methods (which most of us cannot afford to use on a regular basis) are just estimates. The estimates of body fat percentage that I commonly see used the site, such as calipers, scales, and handheld meters have a lot of issues with measurement error, which is a fancy way of saying they aren't particularly good estimates. Even as measures of progress they have serious issues (i.e. on two consecutive days, you could get different readings, even though your body fat levels can't really have changed that much).


While that's all true, that doesn't affect what MFP would have to implement in the least. All of the "check-in" stats, including weight, measurements, or body fat percentage, are just user-entered data. The accuracy of that data is up to the user, and MFP doesn't have to care. We're just talking about displaying a different stat on the ticker.


This, exactly.
May 22, 2012 9:34 AM
Then don't treat MFP advice, limits, measurements, estimations, etc. as gospel. Use it for what you like it for, leave the rest at home. There are several features that I don't use, the ticker included.
Edited by UponThisRock On May 22, 2012 9:35 AM
May 22, 2012 9:34 AM
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Funny, I did a search to see if there were tickers out there for BF% so maybe you could add your own and found people complaining of the same thing on SparkPeople. Couldn't find any tickers though, sorry.


It's a moot point as far as MFP is concerned, because you can't set up your own signature or ticker on these forums anyway. If you have a ticker at all, it's the one you set up on the MFP site, and nothing else. So, in order to support showing something other than weight on the ticker, MFP would have to provide that option (or allow you to set up your own signature with external HTML references).
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May 22, 2012 9:35 AM
It depends on who you "hang out" with. I have a lot of people on my friends list who are not overly concerned with the number on the scale. Hell, I used this site to GAIN 10lbs last winter.
May 22, 2012 9:38 AM
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Perhaps you could make your suggestions to MFP. I am sure they take suggestions.


This is posted in Website Suggestions/Feedback so essentially she just did.
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May 22, 2012 9:39 AM
I honestly stopped caring so much about the scale and this is due alot in part to the awesome peeps on my friends list that keep me going......

Use it how you like.....its up to you what your MFP is centered around
May 22, 2012 9:41 AM
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If you are embarrassed that your ticker looks wrong, then don't report your weight. It's pretty simple....

If you don't like the way MFP is set up, go elsewhere.


Thank you for your encouraging and helpful post!!! grumble

Notice that we are in the "Website suggestions/feedback" section of the forums. If you don't like seeing people's suggestions and feedback, go elsewhere.


Anytime! wink laugh

I didn't actually notice what section we are in. My apologies. embarassed

I really do doubt MFP will change this though. It is the foundation of the website.
May 22, 2012 9:43 AM
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If you are embarrassed that your ticker looks wrong, then don't report your weight. It's pretty simple....

If you don't like the way MFP is set up, go elsewhere.



I don't think she ever said or implied that she was embarrassed about her ticker, but that it wasn't showing the results that her body is showing, therefore thought to make a suggestion that it be added. Hence the reason she posted it in the Website Suggestions/Feedback forum.
Edited by IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym On May 22, 2012 9:43 AM
May 22, 2012 9:47 AM
I completely agree. My pants already feel a bit loose! Weight wise I am the same, but I can tell my body is changing.
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