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September 17, 2012 3:41 AM
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meerkat70 are you freakin serious?! Tell me honestly, would there being an option to use stones and lbs affect your use of this site? Even a little bit?

Good luck with your endeavour to force a nation of 63 million to convert to your opinion.


Thanks. We're trying.
  9711248
September 17, 2012 3:44 AM
Yes, please please please. Surely it wouldn't be hard to add it as an alternative option in the settings?
September 17, 2012 4:17 AM
Although I learnt both imperial and metric at school, primarily metric as I got older - when weighing body weight it has always been in stones and pounds throughout my whole life, you go to slimming world or weight watchers in this country they weigh you in stones and pounds. It's a quirk of this nation, a lovely one.
Stones and pounds, the same as Kg or lbs for other nations, means something to those who are familiar with it. It's just a measurement unit, but as you might know what 10kg loss or 10lb loss looks like and it's significance - to us a stone loss is significant - we know what it looks and feels like.

There is little point arguing for or against, it just is. And it can be confusing, when I convert it's a rounded up or down way of doing it, when I flick the button and weigh in pounds it's more accurate but means little to me.
September 17, 2012 4:21 AM
I've grown up being taught kg in school. But when it has come to body weight its always been in stones. Lb and kg when it comes to body weight means very little. And i'm tired of having to convert to understand how heavy I am and how much I am losing. MFP has two options for weight as it is, i can't be that hard to add a 3rd?
  28080317
September 17, 2012 4:25 AM
Yup, I'd like stone, please.
September 17, 2012 4:27 AM
Totally agree! And as for all the ''I thought the UK was metric'' hello? We measure food in grammes, liquids in litres, building stuff in millimetres and distance in MILES! Also height in feet and inches! So what we use stones and pounds, are the rest of you so bad at maths you can't work out 10 stone 4 is 144 lb? Is that why it was dropped when it went states side?!
Mwa ha ha! Suck on that sissies!
edit to add height!
Edited by diadojikohei On September 17, 2012 4:39 AM
September 17, 2012 4:32 AM
I agree! Although I have gotten use to pounds so would probably still use it, although lots of brits, especially when starting out would benefit from having the weight in stones!
  16639690
September 17, 2012 5:21 AM
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Wow, rude much? Even in this part of the forum, people still have to be arse'y? :/


How is that post rude? Simply disagreeing, and pointing out what I'd see as logical errors is not rude. It's disagreeing and pointing out logical errors....


No, you're rude.

There's a difference between disagreeing/pointing out errors and doing so in a rude way.

But, you seem to lack self-awareness so I think I won't bother going there..


I concur.

I too would like to be given the option, if the MFP creators would be so kind. It wouldn't, however, be a deal breaker for me, as I love the site just the way it is and the support and motivation that I get from my MFPs is invaluable.

This doesn't make me 'incalcitrant', resistant to change, unable to apply simple mathematics or mean that I don't know how many pounds there are in a stone.

I just like what I like and if that means I am set in my way, then so be it! I shall still be buying half a pound of ham when I pop into the supermarket this afternoon and the employee behind the counter will know exactly what I am talking about and won't bat an eyelid!

What I fail to understand is why anyone would feel the need to jump on people in such a condescending manner when they were merely stating an opinion.

It is rude and it is unjustified.
Edited by PJ_73 On September 17, 2012 5:25 AM
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September 21, 2012 8:40 AM
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I would appreciate stones and pounds as pounds alone is the only one I have to really work. Being English I was raised with stones and pounds and still think in this but having lived in both Asia and Africa am now also used to kilos. It would be great if there where options to customise the site to the individual.

I also am English and I was raised with metric... The metric system was taught in school which I started in 1970, so I don't understand anyone younger than me still using stones and pounds, but hey ho, each to their own :-)
  26181475
September 21, 2012 8:44 AM
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I would appreciate stones and pounds as pounds alone is the only one I have to really work. Being English I was raised with stones and pounds and still think in this but having lived in both Asia and Africa am now also used to kilos. It would be great if there where options to customise the site to the individual.

Sorry, but at 28yrs old, how can you say you were raised with "stones and pounds as pounds alone"?

At school, you would have been immersed in metric measure. I don't believe Imperial weights and measures are included in the modern curriculum. I went to school between 1969 and 1982. in primary school our old text books were in Imperial, but all the modern text books were exclusively in metric.

I really hate (and it's not a word I use flippantly) the successive governments of Heath and Wilson in the 70s for not having the balls to make the UK adopt metric measurements. This fannying around with Imperial and metric is not doing us any good as the handful of people who are actually capable of doing the conversion mathematics is few and far between.

When the UK decimalised in 1971, we should have also adopted metric weights and measure at the same time. Yes, there would have been some resistance as there was to decimal currency, but within 5 years it would have been fait accompi and we'd not have to go through this nonsense every time. the Met Office successfully moved from Fahrenheit to Celsius (via a brief dalliance with centigrade) and nowadays even my octogenarian father who can count as fast in base-12 as he can in base-10 is comfortable conversing in temperatures in C rather than F.


For all you Brits with a problem converting here's a quick-reference guide:

1 lb=45.5g 2.2 lbs = 1kg 1 st = 14 lbs = 6.364kg

8 st = 112 lbs = 50.91kg . . . . . 50kg = 110 lbs = 7 st 12 lbs
9 st = 126 lbs = 57.27kg . . . . . 60kg = 132 lbs = 9 st 6 lbs
10 st = 140 lbs = 63.64kg . . . . . 65kg = 143 lbs = 10 st 3 lbs
11 st = 154 lbs = 70.00kg . . . . . 70kg = 154 lbs = 11 st
12 st = 168 lbs = 76.36kg . . . . . 75kg = 165 lbs = 11 st 11 lbs
13 st = 182 lbs = 82.73kg . . . . . 80kg = 176 lbs = 12 st 8 lbs
14 st = 196 lbs = 89.09kg . . . . . 85kg = 187 lbs = 13 st 5 lbs
15 st = 210 lbs = 95.45kg . . . . . 90kg = 198 lbs = 14 st 2 lbs
16 st = 224 lbs = 101.82kg . . . .100kg = 220 lbs = 15 st 10 lbs
17 st = 238 lbs = 108.18kg . . . .105kg = 231 lbs = 16 st 7 lbs
18 st = 252 lbs = 114.55kg . . . .110kg = 242 lbs = 17 st 4lbs
19 st = 266 lbs = 120.91kg . . . .120kg = 264 lbs = 18 st 12 lbs
20 st = 280 lbs = 127.27kg . . . . 125kg = 275 lbs = 19 st 9 lbs
21 st = 294 lbs = 133.64kg . . . . 130kg = 286 lbs = 20 st 6 lbs
22 st = 308 lbs = 140.00kg . . . . 135kg = 297 lbs = 21 st 3 lbs


Have to say I agree, we must be the same age almost as I do not recall stones and pounds at school. My dad, who is 71 uses metric, because he had to at work, as that is What the rest of Europe uses...
  26181475
September 22, 2012 3:38 PM
I personally don't have a problem in the conversion process, but I also want stones and pounds as a measurement on MFP as that is what 60 million people over the pond here in the UK use.
  25125890
September 26, 2012 3:36 PM
Yes please, that'd be great. I hope the admins are nice enough to consider adding this option flowerforyou
September 27, 2012 1:22 PM
Yes do this please as well as KG or whatever the Europeans use. It would only be fair & polite.
  4168800
October 9, 2012 3:43 PM
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QUOTE:

I would appreciate stones and pounds as pounds alone is the only one I have to really work. Being English I was raised with stones and pounds and still think in this but having lived in both Asia and Africa am now also used to kilos. It would be great if there where options to customise the site to the individual.

I also am English and I was raised with metric... The metric system was taught in school which I started in 1970, so I don't understand anyone younger than me still using stones and pounds, but hey ho, each to their own :-)


I use stones and pounds because that's what I was taught. I am 25.
  28080317
October 18, 2012 4:56 AM
Just Started with this app and really like it but I agree that it is sorely missing a setting to use Stones and Pounds as well as kgs and lbs. I find that at the moment I am weighing myself twice each time. Once in lbs for the app and then setting the scales so that it displays stones so that I can relate to the actual weight. Surely a simple piece of programming could address this? Thanks.
October 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Actually NO....

Only a small percentage of old farts resistant to change here in the UK still use stones and pounds... get a grip - learn your weights in kgs and be done with antiquated units of measurement.

I cant believe that in a modern world we even still use these ridiculous units. The whole metric system is developed with sound science behind it giving it meaning. ie 1kg = the mass of 1litre of water etc...

drop the pounds in MFP all together i say - make everyone use metric.

Another thing that bugs me here in the UK - we are no longer allowed to sell produce in lbs or oz's but why the hell are all our speed limits still in mph... grrrrrrrrr!!!!
  29089428
October 18, 2012 9:48 AM
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Actually NO....

Only a small percentage of old farts resistant to change here in the UK still use stones and pounds... get a grip - learn your weights in kgs and be done with antiquated units of measurement.



Wow. Talk about rude?

I'm not an old fart by any means, I prefer stones and lbs.

Get over it.
  3123985
October 18, 2012 9:51 AM
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Totally agree! And as for all the ''I thought the UK was metric'' hello? We measure food in grammes, liquids in litres, building stuff in millimetres and distance in MILES! Also height in feet and inches! So what we use stones and pounds, are the rest of you so bad at maths you can't work out 10 stone 4 is 144 lb? Is that why it was dropped when it went states side?!
Mwa ha ha! Suck on that sissies!
edit to add height!


Yes. I am bad at maths. I have to use Google to convert, but I know most of them off by heart now, at least the ones that are relevant to me.

Nice of you to be so horrible about people being bad at maths, though. We can't all be good at everything. I have my strengths, and my weaknesses. Maths is one of them.
  3123985
October 18, 2012 10:01 AM
I agree.. but it is a site run by the US.
That being said - it offers a great ability to scan in UK foodstuffs - when I reviewed another site - it flatly stated it would NOT support anyone outside the US... so I convert to pounds and shake my head at the continuing thought process from the US that states they are the centre of the universe.

It should not be within the wit of the staff (given their penchant for messing around (badly) with figures) to offer that as an option, along with pounds and kilos (no-one is asking for stones and pounds only, as far as I can tell...)

Oh and I'm useless at maths too... so innerfatgirl - make no apologies to ANYONE on a forum for voicing your opinion and asking for a website suggestion - that's what the thread is therefore!
Edited by rfsatar On October 18, 2012 10:06 AM
  26587270
October 18, 2012 12:24 PM
My bathroom scales have the options of kg, pounds or stones/pounds.
I choose stone/pounds as that's my preference and instantly means something to me.

It's not an issue of being competent at maths (I am thanks!) - just a preference. My goal weight is twelve and a half stone which means something to me and also the vast majority of people I speak with.

Like most Brits I'm comfortable with petrol in litres but will convert fuel consumption to miles per gallon.
When I'm lifting weights I'm happy either in pounds or kilos.
In summer I talk about temperature in Fahrenheit and in winter in Celcius.

Oh, by the way - beer HAS to be in pints!
  27827333
October 18, 2012 12:33 PM
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Oh, by the way - beer HAS to be in pints!


Oh thanks for offering... half a carlsberg please mate
  26587270
October 24, 2012 9:30 AM
PLEASE pretty please i need stones for my weight! i'm hopeless at maths and converting, even with the converters online i can't seem to get it right.
October 24, 2012 11:29 AM
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sijomial wrote:

Oh, by the way - beer HAS to be in pints!


Factoid:
In the UK, more beer is sold in bottles&cans (in metric units) than draught (British Empire units).

See:
http://www.beerandpub.com/news/new-handbook-highlights-fall-in-uk-alcohol-consumption
October 24, 2012 11:37 AM
I am no good at math other than the traditional American pounds/feet/miles...switching to STONES would actually make me leave the site even though I enjoy it. I think you could give a choice when you sign up how you want your results to show (either in pounds or in stones, etc).
October 24, 2012 1:11 PM
I think that it would be nice to be offered the choice of stones, kilos and pounds in the personal settings. And if MFP got round to actioning this, they should also ensure that when you looked at someone else's data that is what you saw. For example, user A N Other selects kilos in their "view options" but if you chose stone you may see 9 Stone 7.

Unfortunately, I think MFP only caters for the "many". I am a gainer and our tickers don't work and there are no badges for us either!!! It is a shame that they dont appear to be motivated to help the minority.

Toni
drinker
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