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August 12, 2012 6:16 AM
It's 2012. Why are lbs still being used at all???

I use KG and find it a pain to convert all the time for people living in the 1970s or something.
  15889742
August 12, 2012 6:17 AM
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I believe I read them all, and was, indeed, reacting to them. Is there a particular point on which you feel my comprehension has failed? I do believe I understood every single post on the thread.


No, no, you carry on. laugh


Sorry, I'm still struggling here. Did I fail to understand, or not? Which point did I not 'read' correctly?


You didn't read anything incorrectly sweetheart, I'm sure if ever we meet I will bow to your intellectual wisdom and be glad to be corrected by you flowerforyou


Like?

Could you be a bit specific about what I've misunderstood? Or is this just a rhetorical device to distract from the real paucity of your argument... ?


I had already said, earlier in the thread (before you decided to pounce on me, possibly because I dared to say "Us Brits") that conversion charts were available, that I could convert kilos to pounds and whatever other measurements I saw fit, through the power of google. Of course you know this because you did read all my posts before you initially responded to me. But you chose to ignore those comments of mine, possibly because I suggested Cups are a bit mad.
I don't know why you have such a loathing for those of us who like Stones and pounds, but the issue is yours, and I shall leave it with you.
It doesn't really bother me whether the powers that be decide to add in extra conversion options for those of us who'd appreciate it. It doesn't really bother me whether people want to use Cups, or mls, or even hamsters. And it doesn't bother me whether people look to convert things on google, buy the correct measuring implements from a super market. I'm not going to belittle them on a forum for not towing the party line in correct measuring tactics. But that's just me. You have a good day now!


I don't really see how the availability of conversion charts invalidates any of the specific points I've made? Perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain.

I don't loathe anyone. How very strange that you imagine that. Do you often think random strangers on the internet hate you, because of your preference for an archaic measurement system?

I also didn't belittle you. Could you give a specific instance of where I did so?

Disagreeing with your argument is not the same as attacking *you*.
Edited by meerkat70 On August 12, 2012 6:19 AM
  10095468
August 12, 2012 6:20 AM
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It's 2012. Why are lbs still being used at all???

I use KG and find it a pain to convert all the time for people living in the 1970s or something.


Careful. Don't be belittling people that way. They get all huffy.... :-D
  10095468
August 12, 2012 6:58 AM
I would appreciate stones and pounds as pounds alone is the only one I have to really work. Being English I was raised with stones and pounds and still think in this but having lived in both Asia and Africa am now also used to kilos. It would be great if there where options to customise the site to the individual.
August 12, 2012 10:01 AM
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I would appreciate stones and pounds as pounds alone is the only one I have to really work. Being English I was raised with stones and pounds and still think in this but having lived in both Asia and Africa am now also used to kilos. It would be great if there where options to customise the site to the individual.

Sorry, but at 28yrs old, how can you say you were raised with "stones and pounds as pounds alone"?

At school, you would have been immersed in metric measure. I don't believe Imperial weights and measures are included in the modern curriculum. I went to school between 1969 and 1982. in primary school our old text books were in Imperial, but all the modern text books were exclusively in metric.

I really hate (and it's not a word I use flippantly) the successive governments of Heath and Wilson in the 70s for not having the balls to make the UK adopt metric measurements. This fannying around with Imperial and metric is not doing us any good as the handful of people who are actually capable of doing the conversion mathematics is few and far between.

When the UK decimalised in 1971, we should have also adopted metric weights and measure at the same time. Yes, there would have been some resistance as there was to decimal currency, but within 5 years it would have been fait accompi and we'd not have to go through this nonsense every time. the Met Office successfully moved from Fahrenheit to Celsius (via a brief dalliance with centigrade) and nowadays even my octogenarian father who can count as fast in base-12 as he can in base-10 is comfortable conversing in temperatures in C rather than F.


For all you Brits with a problem converting here's a quick-reference guide:

1 lb=45.5g 2.2 lbs = 1kg 1 st = 14 lbs = 6.364kg

8 st = 112 lbs = 50.91kg . . . . . 50kg = 110 lbs = 7 st 12 lbs
9 st = 126 lbs = 57.27kg . . . . . 60kg = 132 lbs = 9 st 6 lbs
10 st = 140 lbs = 63.64kg . . . . . 65kg = 143 lbs = 10 st 3 lbs
11 st = 154 lbs = 70.00kg . . . . . 70kg = 154 lbs = 11 st
12 st = 168 lbs = 76.36kg . . . . . 75kg = 165 lbs = 11 st 11 lbs
13 st = 182 lbs = 82.73kg . . . . . 80kg = 176 lbs = 12 st 8 lbs
14 st = 196 lbs = 89.09kg . . . . . 85kg = 187 lbs = 13 st 5 lbs
15 st = 210 lbs = 95.45kg . . . . . 90kg = 198 lbs = 14 st 2 lbs
16 st = 224 lbs = 101.82kg . . . .100kg = 220 lbs = 15 st 10 lbs
17 st = 238 lbs = 108.18kg . . . .105kg = 231 lbs = 16 st 7 lbs
18 st = 252 lbs = 114.55kg . . . .110kg = 242 lbs = 17 st 4lbs
19 st = 266 lbs = 120.91kg . . . .120kg = 264 lbs = 18 st 12 lbs
20 st = 280 lbs = 127.27kg . . . . 125kg = 275 lbs = 19 st 9 lbs
21 st = 294 lbs = 133.64kg . . . . 130kg = 286 lbs = 20 st 6 lbs
22 st = 308 lbs = 140.00kg . . . . 135kg = 297 lbs = 21 st 3 lbs
Edited by kyle4jem On August 12, 2012 10:03 AM
  10281816
August 12, 2012 10:10 AM
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I think it should show ALL of them! So your tickers say

14lbs/1 stone/6.3KG

That way we are all in the loop and up to speed regardless of where we are from :)


^^ THIS ^^
  2946164
August 12, 2012 10:13 AM
I don't mind the pounds thing now. At first I found it really confusing, but I find it easy to understand how much someone weighs now.

The height in inches though is confusing. I find most say it in feet and inches though.

I'm not that bothered tbh.
  4881502
August 12, 2012 10:13 AM
I prefer recording my weight loss in lbs as opposed to Kgs. Purely a psychological boost. 2.2lbs sounds more than a Kg
  2946164
August 12, 2012 1:09 PM
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I agree it would be nice to have the option of having our weight in stones as well as pounds. I suppose it depends where and when you grew up but as long as I can remember we Brits have measured our weight in stones.

Also, I never have got why Americans but the day and month the wrong way around - day/month/year - simple!


You're younger than me, love. Metric was introduced in British schools in 1974.... Perhaps it's time to catch up, eh?


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It would be nice to be able to choose stones and lb's. Purely because it's what us Brits are used to. Also I don't understand the cup measurement? I did google it but it didn't really make it much clearer. Is there any one that could explain it to me in laymans terms? ;-)



A cup is 250 ml, i.e. a quarter of a litre.

If you use a mineral water bottle for your water intake, this is probably marked as 75cl - which is 3 cups. So you need to drink nearly 3 of those per day. Hope that helps.

Your water bottle might be smaller or larger than that - check the markings on its label.


How nice, a polite answer to my question. Not a sarcastic patronising troll post. Have you got nothing better to do than pick fights on harmless threads? Sad man....take your rudeness and condescending attitude and do one please.
August 13, 2012 2:50 AM
Jesz, I'm not sure who you're talking to, or quite what you're trying to say there....

I'm endlessly amused, though, by people who think anyone with a view different from there own, who is able to advance that view in passable English, with something resembling logic, is 'patronising'.
  10095468
August 13, 2012 3:37 AM
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I'm endlessly amused, though, by people who think anyone with a view different from there own, who is able to advance that view in passable English, with something resembling logic, is 'patronising'.


I'm not here to argue, but your choice of words in this comment could be construed as 'patronising' (not to mention somewhat condescending...):

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You're younger than me, love. Metric was introduced in British schools in 1974.... Perhaps it's time to catch up, eh?


Incidentally, I was taught a mixture of metric and imperial at school.
August 13, 2012 10:00 AM
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We definitely plan on making a variety of improvements to the app for UK users, including supporting weight measurements in stones, water tracking in pints, etc. We can't promise when those will be available, but they are definitely on our to-do list.

Steven
MyFitnessPal Staff
August 13, 2012 10:11 AM
Thank you Steven!
August 27, 2012 9:16 PM
Well said! It seems that many of you are missing the crux of my original post - that for those of you for whom kg/lbs immediately "means" something when you look at your weight-loss graph, great. You need do nothing, since your preference is already catered for on MFP, and therefore this post doesn't really concern you one way or the other.

What is singularly unhelpful, and I might add, unnecessary, is to then go on to actually rebuke people for using a system which they can relate to, and which holds a particular motivational significance for them (since, like an earlier post reiterated, our relationships to weight and weight loss rarely exist without various 'non-rational' emotional attachments). By way of example, I'm sure that if the tables were turned and MFP suddenly changed all its measurements only to stones, all the kg/lb people who smugly told us here to 'just change over' or 'just convert on a calculator - it's easy!' would suddenly be rather vocal in their requests to instate a system they were familiar with.

What possible difference could it make to any kg/lb person whether I, and those like me, actually get the stones and pounds option we have requested or not? Since it will make no material difference to you in your measurements, can I suggest you keep your suggestions about how you think the world *should be* to a minimum, and embrace, or at least quietly tolerate, its difference instead.
  15293300
August 27, 2012 11:33 PM
Wow. Necropost much?
  10095468
August 28, 2012 2:13 AM
Because it's nonsense like this that is holding back the human race.
  9711248
August 28, 2012 5:16 PM
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Jesz, I'm not sure who you're talking to, or quite what you're trying to say there....

I'm endlessly amused, though, by people who think anyone with a view different from there own, who is able to advance that view in passable English, with something resembling logic, is 'patronising'.


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Wow. Necropost much?


If mine is indeed a necropost, as you seem to think, how ironic that you would necropost simply to point out my necropost! How fitting...

The reality is that, since I started this thread 4 months ago, I had not been back in a while to read what people had been posting, because unlike you, apparently, I have better things to do than to pounce on posts a mere 2 hours after they go live so that I can convince myself and the world of my superior intellect by unleashing my criticism on them. However, since I am not the first person to take umbrage with you in this thread about your fractious and relentlessly antagonistic way of expressing yourself, enough is enough. I can only assume you either have a very poor grasp of sociolinguistic norms, or are actively being facetious in the mistaken belief that that this somehow raises people's estimation of you as you demean the other. In fact, quite the opposite is true.

Either way, let me tell you that when you are attempting to intimidate someone with a patronising demonstration of your dazzling intellect, it is much less effective when you yourself cannot differentiate between the simplest points of grammar as you do so. I would have thought that, as a self-professed academic, you wouldn't need a lesson on the uses of 'there' versus 'their'. And yes, that's what condescension feels like. So give it a rest.
  15293300
August 30, 2012 4:36 PM
I'm also a self-confessed dyslexic. :-)
  10095468
September 5, 2012 2:32 AM
Why are people arguing over this and, more specifically, being condescending?

I was brought up with stones.

Over the course of my weight loss, I have learnt about lbs.

I have no bloody idea about KG, and only use it when trying to convert my weight lost for my co-workers (who are mainly foreign)

Why does this matter? If the OP would find it useful to have the option, then so be it. Not sure why people are arguing.
  3123985
September 5, 2012 2:35 AM
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Wow, rude much? Even in this part of the forum, people still have to be arse'y? :/


How is that post rude? Simply disagreeing, and pointing out what I'd see as logical errors is not rude. It's disagreeing and pointing out logical errors....


No, you're rude.

There's a difference between disagreeing/pointing out errors and doing so in a rude way.

But, you seem to lack self-awareness so I think I won't bother going there..
  3123985
September 5, 2012 2:55 AM
Metric system for the win! bigsmile
September 5, 2012 2:59 AM
I would like to see stones and ilbs, i weight myself that way and have to convert to lbs for the site and bugs me!

Defo means more to me in stones and lbs and would be happier with the results I see on screen!!

Please do stones and lbs!! x
September 5, 2012 3:00 AM
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I thought the Brits had gone Metric years ago. No?


Sadly we're still stuck in the past. *Crosses fingers for the day when we finally turn metric*.
September 5, 2012 3:24 AM
meerkat70 are you freakin serious?! Tell me honestly, would there being an option to use stones and lbs affect your use of this site? Even a little bit?

Good luck with your endeavour to force a nation of 63 million to convert to your opinion.
  12166618
September 17, 2012 3:33 AM
Haha this thread is hilarious! Calm down dears!

Woo for stones and pounds coming soon, thanks MFP :)

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