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August 12, 2012 2:52 AM
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I agree it would be nice to have the option of having our weight in stones as well as pounds. I suppose it depends where and when you grew up but as long as I can remember we Brits have measured our weight in stones.

Also, I never have got why Americans but the day and month the wrong way around - day/month/year - simple!


You're younger than me, love. Metric was introduced in British schools in 1974.... Perhaps it's time to catch up, eh?


When I said weight I meant our body weight, which is true in this country. Also, when the metric system was introduced we didn't just simply switch over.

I remember buying sweets in a shop as a kid and they were measured in ounces. Do you not use feet and inches to measure your height? Or have you converted to using centimetres? I've worked in factories in the UK and inches are still used in engineering across the country to take precise measurements. Yards are still used in football to measure areas of the pitch such as the '6 yard box.' Even football commentary use yards to determine the distance footballers score from. Go to the pub and you order a pint of lager, you don't say, "Can I have 568 ml of lager please." Do you use kilometres to measure speed? Or do you use miles/hour like the rest of us here in the UK.

Maybe its you that needs to catch up with the rest of us and realize not everything and everyone has converted.
  25930253
August 12, 2012 2:55 AM
I'm British - we live in Europe, a metric continent (?).

I work in metric and, we weigh food in metric, buy fuel in metric, we went 'decimal' in 1971 and I weigh my food and myself in metric.

It's more precise - I struggle now with imperial measurements at work and always convert to metric.

I like the fact that my ticker shows kilograms and my home page shows pounds (pounds weigh more than kilos smile )

Having said that, I convert my weight loss into stones, kilos, pounds as the mood takes me.........I don't feel any need to show stones - 14 lbs = 1 stone; easy, and 30 lbs sounds better than 2 stone 2 lbs to me!
Edited by jc1200 On August 12, 2012 3:02 AM
  11202489
August 12, 2012 3:04 AM
I'm 30 and British and I was taught a mix of imperial and metric so I tend to weigh myself in stones & pounds, my height in feet and inches, distance in miles and temperature in centigrade. But I weigh my food in grams and liquids in mls.

Because I know there are 14lbs in a stone it doesn't bother me that this site using lbs.

But I'm with the person who said abut the cups - its annoying when food is entered as 1/2 a cup or 1 cup because I have no idea how much a cup is in mls or grams?
  3915986
August 12, 2012 3:10 AM
To have the choice would be wonderful.
  5996936
August 12, 2012 3:10 AM
We Brits use metric in most things, but the majority of Brits seem to use stones for body weight, feet and inches for body height, and miles for travelling.

For body weight, I worked out as a kid how to convert to the approximate equivalent in kg or lb by realising that:

7 stone is approximately 100 lb
8 stone is approximately 50kg

100 and 50 are easy numbers to use as baselines. And obviously 10 stone is 140 lb.

On the other hand, it would be nice to have a fitness site that uses stones as well as lb and kg. It would feel more inclusive.
August 12, 2012 3:13 AM
http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/pounds-to-ounces.htm
http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/pounds-to-stones.htm

I just use converters. Its not that hard.
  4057395
August 12, 2012 3:16 AM
To avoid arguments, we should measure everything in hamsters.
  20496170
August 12, 2012 3:17 AM
QUOTE:

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I agree it would be nice to have the option of having our weight in stones as well as pounds. I suppose it depends where and when you grew up but as long as I can remember we Brits have measured our weight in stones.

Also, I never have got why Americans but the day and month the wrong way around - day/month/year - simple!


You're younger than me, love. Metric was introduced in British schools in 1974.... Perhaps it's time to catch up, eh?


When I said weight I meant our body weight, which is true in this country. Also, when the metric system was introduced we didn't just simply switch over.

I remember buying sweets in a shop as a kid and they were measured in ounces. Do you not use feet and inches to measure your height? Or have you converted to using centimetres? I've worked in factories in the UK and inches are still used in engineering across the country to take precise measurements. Yards are still used in football to measure areas of the pitch such as the '6 yard box.' Even football commentary use yards to determine the distance footballers score from. Go to the pub and you order a pint of lager, you don't say, "Can I have 568 ml of lager please." Do you use kilometres to measure speed? Or do you use miles/hour like the rest of us here in the UK.

Maybe its you that needs to catch up with the rest of us and realize not everything and everyone has converted.


Yes, I think in metric. Sorry if that's hard for you. I generally also don't use 'football commentators' as a yardstick against which to measure what choices I make in my own life.

You'll find that your supermarket weights everything in metric, so I don't really get the relevance of what the corner shop did back when you were three... ?

When I go to the doctors, they measure my weight in kilograms.
Edited by meerkat70 On August 12, 2012 3:18 AM
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August 12, 2012 3:19 AM
I agree that it would be helpful to have other options for weight and measurements. The UK is a bit of a weird one- we deal mainly in metric now (because it makes sense- and because our trading partners in Europe tend to use metric too), but we also have many of our measurements in miles/pints/other imperial units partially due to other trading partners (including the USA). We drive on the left, say "Rubbish", "pavement" and "bloody hell"- yes you guessed it, we're a little different to other countries!

I was brought up in an imperial household, but taught metric at school. As a result I can happily give someone the measurements for an item "It's about 15cm by about an inch and a half..." It's not logical but it's just how our brain works!

I also find the American Cup system baffling- it appears to weigh things in volume? Why would you WEIGH everything by a VOLUME not a WEIGHT (I have the same issue with tablespoons etc, though ML for liquids is fine......)?! I've tried to use it before, but unless you can get your hands on an American Measuring cup, then you can't measure anything. grams make sense! How do you measure things that don't fit in a cup, like spaghetti, or merangues?!

And in response to someone who asked how we can measure a cup of tea but not a cup of anything else- there's two answers- one being that we can use mililitres, and the other being that even with full fat milk, a cup of tea is sub 30 cals..... does it matter?!



I've got my head around lb/ kg recently so don't need to measure in stone and lb- I've just made the transition as it's easier than complaining!
Edited by wifealiciousness On August 12, 2012 3:20 AM
August 12, 2012 3:21 AM
I agree it's a nuisance having to calculate pounds into stones, but I've gotten so used to logging my weight and weighing myself in pounds now that it doesn't bother me. It kind of feels like a bigger loss too lol tongue

I use a calculator anyway if I'm working out how many stones it is, so again it doesn't really bother me tbh.
  7004250
August 12, 2012 3:23 AM
I'm British and I've always dealt in pounds or Kilos. I left school back in 1976 and we had been dealing in kilos, metres and so on way back then. I use the pounds option on here because my home scale is set to pounds, it has kilo and stones options as well but I prefer using pounds for this. In everyday life, cooking, shopping, DIY and so on, I use kilos, grams, litres centimetres and metres as applicable.

For my job I drive a truck and the odometer in that is in kilometres, not miles, and they have been that way for the last 30 years I've been in this industry.
Edited by Coffeeholic8 On August 12, 2012 3:25 AM
  18676539
August 12, 2012 3:24 AM
I would like to see grams, litres etc in the food listings as cups and ounces mean nothing to me, or at least somewhere you can convert them.
  837819
August 12, 2012 3:28 AM
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I also find the American Cup system baffling- it appears to weigh things in volume? Why would you WEIGH everything by a VOLUME not a WEIGHT (I have the same issue with tablespoons etc, though ML for liquids is fine......)?! I've tried to use it before, but unless you can get your hands on an American Measuring cup, then you can't measure anything. grams make sense! How do you measure things that don't fit in a cup, like spaghetti, or merangues?!




I never weigh using cups. If I do it's VERY rare, and usually only so I can scoop something out easier lol, I always use my food weighing scales and measuring cup.
  7004250
August 12, 2012 3:30 AM
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I would like to see grams, litres etc in the food listings as cups and ounces mean nothing to me, or at least somewhere you can convert them.



I don't know where you've been looking because I'm always finding food listings in grams lol. Are you searching for the American versions of food? Everytime I search for a British food/brand of food it's in grams.
  7004250
August 12, 2012 3:52 AM
It did seem odd not using stones and pounds at first but I actually prefer it now because I can disassociate a bit from how many stones I weigh and concentrate on how many pounds I've lost. I have my scales set up to weigh in pounds and when I do the conversion back to stones occasionally it comes as a happy surprise to see I have dropped down one or two!
  20223889
August 12, 2012 3:56 AM
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I would like to see grams, litres etc in the food listings as cups and ounces mean nothing to me, or at least somewhere you can convert them.



I don't know where you've been looking because I'm always finding food listings in grams lol. Are you searching for the American versions of food? Everytime I search for a British food/brand of food it's in grams.


If you're looking at the generic listings (e.g. 'cheese, grated, generic), when you click the item, it may *look* like it's in cups, but if you use the pull down menu on the item, you'll see there's usually measures by cup, fl ounce, gram, ounce - all sorts of measures. Grams are certainly available for most items, unless they're a very specifically american food, or perhaps user entered.
  10095468
August 12, 2012 4:00 AM
That would make it so much easier, just looking at a number in pounds means nothing that I can visualise.
Please let us work in stones and pounds, they really mean something.
August 12, 2012 4:28 AM
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It would be nice to be able to choose stones and lb's. Purely because it's what us Brits are used to. Also I don't understand the cup measurement? I did google it but it didn't really make it much clearer. Is there any one that could explain it to me in laymans terms? ;-)



A cup is 250 ml, i.e. a quarter of a litre.

If you use a mineral water bottle for your water intake, this is probably marked as 75cl - which is 3 cups. So you need to drink nearly 3 of those per day. Hope that helps.

Your water bottle might be smaller or larger than that - check the markings on its label.
  24811419
August 12, 2012 4:40 AM
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SImilar issues for Australians (and New Zealand, I presume as well)- but relative to metric AUSTRALIAN measurements....

** Number One, Australians measure Energy expended and ingested by kilojoules, (kJ), not Calories http://www.nrv.gov.au/energy.htm; and http://www.healthyactive.gov.au/internet/healthyactive/publishing.nsf/Content/healthy-eating-calculator

** 2. Australians walk, run, cycle, jog, and row in metric measurements of KILOMETRES (km), not miles.....

** 3. Australians weigh-in in KILOGRAMS (kg): evidently in line with the rest of the (non-British) "Fitness Pal" world

The closest Australian App is designed by the New South Wales State Government 8700.com.au, in reference to daily kJ count average of Australians, but it directly targeted to mitigate consumption of junk & fast food, and therefore lacks wide menu recognition (of counts of fruit, vegetables, and "health" food, for example)

, Australians would like, across the board, metric Australian measurement options available, when opted for in options that is integrated across ALL sections of the software/ application!

Thanks fellas. Sure that this business is more popular and places more demands on you than you potentially ever imagined!

Regards from Western Australia



This!
From someone from Europe
August 12, 2012 5:26 AM
Sorry if this has been suggested before, how about a tab at the top for conversions.

We all remember our starting weight. Click on the tap it pops up with a converter. then everyone can have the conversions at their finger tip.

I love stones, weigh food in grams, but calculate cooking a roast by lbs. I work with cm, but prefer inches (years of converting stuff for my mum) I buy material in meter, but calculate road distance in yards.

Yes i would like it - would it ruin my day - use of this site - no
  27494380
August 12, 2012 5:51 AM
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I believe I read them all, and was, indeed, reacting to them. Is there a particular point on which you feel my comprehension has failed? I do believe I understood every single post on the thread.


No, no, you carry on. laugh


Sorry, I'm still struggling here. Did I fail to understand, or not? Which point did I not 'read' correctly?


You didn't read anything incorrectly sweetheart, I'm sure if ever we meet I will bow to your intellectual wisdom and be glad to be corrected by you flowerforyou
August 12, 2012 5:55 AM
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I believe I read them all, and was, indeed, reacting to them. Is there a particular point on which you feel my comprehension has failed? I do believe I understood every single post on the thread.


No, no, you carry on. laugh


Sorry, I'm still struggling here. Did I fail to understand, or not? Which point did I not 'read' correctly?


You didn't read anything incorrectly sweetheart, I'm sure if ever we meet I will bow to your intellectual wisdom and be glad to be corrected by you flowerforyou


Like?

Could you be a bit specific about what I've misunderstood? Or is this just a rhetorical device to distract from the real paucity of your argument... ?
  10095468
August 12, 2012 6:04 AM
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I believe I read them all, and was, indeed, reacting to them. Is there a particular point on which you feel my comprehension has failed? I do believe I understood every single post on the thread.


No, no, you carry on. laugh


Sorry, I'm still struggling here. Did I fail to understand, or not? Which point did I not 'read' correctly?


You didn't read anything incorrectly sweetheart, I'm sure if ever we meet I will bow to your intellectual wisdom and be glad to be corrected by you flowerforyou


Like?

Could you be a bit specific about what I've misunderstood? Or is this just a rhetorical device to distract from the real paucity of your argument... ?


I had already said, earlier in the thread (before you decided to pounce on me, possibly because I dared to say "Us Brits") that conversion charts were available, that I could convert kilos to pounds and whatever other measurements I saw fit, through the power of google. Of course you know this because you did read all my posts before you initially responded to me. But you chose to ignore those comments of mine, possibly because I suggested Cups are a bit mad.
I don't know why you have such a loathing for those of us who like Stones and pounds, but the issue is yours, and I shall leave it with you.
It doesn't really bother me whether the powers that be decide to add in extra conversion options for those of us who'd appreciate it. It doesn't really bother me whether people want to use Cups, or mls, or even hamsters. And it doesn't bother me whether people look to convert things on google, buy the correct measuring implements from a super market. I'm not going to belittle them on a forum for not towing the party line in correct measuring tactics. But that's just me. You have a good day now!
August 12, 2012 6:07 AM
@CathyL, don't know if you remember but I remember being taught over and over in school that America was switching to all meteoric so we had to learn it or else. Haha. Well we didn't switch for all... I definitely think the option to convert should be on this site. As I'm sure they will do that. However, as an American used to pounds I don't want to know how many stones I've lost. And the progress would appear too slow for me.
  8446015
August 12, 2012 6:10 AM
Over the years I've conditioned myself to use lbs instead of stone. The option would be nice though. :)

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