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June 26, 2012 5:27 AM
I'd love stones and pounds :-)
June 26, 2012 5:39 AM
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I thought the Brits had gone Metric years ago. No?


We did, legally, but it isn't really that simple to change from imperial to metric - everyone is used to the measurements that they're familiar with, so there are a lot of people around who grew up with imperial units, and then my generation that were children when we switched so use both fairly interchangeably, and now children today who don't know what a foot or a yard is.
  10721474
June 26, 2012 6:01 AM
As a fellow Brit I would love to see "stones and pounds"!!
Edited by Ekoria On June 26, 2012 6:02 AM
  17532909
June 26, 2012 6:06 AM
I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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  9285851
June 26, 2012 6:16 AM
I'm more used to metric system than the American imperial one although here in the country where I live, the imperial measuring system prevails except for distance which we measure in terms of metric (kms). Heck I don't even know what a mile, yard or an ounce is. I only know the inches & pounds.

Anyway I have some friends from the UK who are using the metric system more than the American imperial one.
Edited by LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo On June 26, 2012 6:19 AM
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June 26, 2012 6:48 AM
It would be useful to have a display choice, so that users could set it to whatever they are used to. At the moment, I have to think in pounds here, in kg when I weigh myself (my gym's weighing machine is metric), and in stone & pounds in my own head as somehow pounds alone & kilos just doesn't carry any emotional attachment for me. My personal goal is to lose two stones and so knowing I have lost half a stone, for whatever irrational reason, *means* more to me than kilos or pounds. But then, whoever said that feelings about weight & weight loss have to be rational?!

Similarly, a choice for food measurements would be useful. I really am at a loss when I am only presented with the option of adding ounces and cups of the foods I eat. Surely a simple algorithm could calculate all this? It's an international site so it should be tailored to its clientelle.
June 26, 2012 7:02 AM
I wouldn't mind my ticker showing stones and pounds but I find it easier to operate digital scales and weight calculations in kilos.

I use the converter+ app on my iphone to switch from one to the other - it's a great app for converting other stuff too, someone has even done a running calculator so I can see my mph or kph against a 5k time.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/converter-plus-iphone-ipod/id370146222?mt=8
June 26, 2012 11:13 AM
Oh hell yeah - that really would b a brilliant option - I need a 'like' button to press for that... Or is that a whole other topic!!!
  7760571
June 26, 2012 11:23 AM
I think it should show ALL of them! So your tickers say

14lbs/1 stone/6.3KG

That way we are all in the loop and up to speed regardless of where we are from :)
  14395145
June 26, 2012 1:03 PM
I agree that having a choice is a good idea, especially since it's a system that has been around for a few hundred years--
June 26, 2012 1:29 PM
I think we should all have choice dependent upon the country we live in please happy
June 29, 2012 12:42 PM
QUOTE:

I think it should show ALL of them! So your tickers say

14lbs/1 stone/6.3KG

That way we are all in the loop and up to speed regardless of where we are from :)



^^ this
  6112234
July 1, 2012 12:26 PM
i reckon there should be .com for the lb/kg users and a .co.uk for us brits who wants feet and inches, stones and lbs, measurements by lbs and ounces/spoon size table spoon tea spoon etc (not a bleeden cup as ya cant find a 1 cup fits all size cup in the cupboard = missed out cals)

as for the trackers too should have an option either displaying lb, kg, stone loss/to go

i have no issues on this site apart from theres NO STONE which i and fellow brits WANT desperately as we are getting pretty fed up gong onto google or use calculators to convert

please give us what we desperately need or some brits may leave
July 2, 2012 7:43 AM
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I think it should show ALL of them! So your tickers say

14lbs/1 stone/6.3KG

That way we are all in the loop and up to speed regardless of where we are from :)


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  11502026
August 12, 2012 12:33 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I thought the Brits had gone Metric years ago. No?


We did, legally, but it isn't really that simple to change from imperial to metric - everyone is used to the measurements that they're familiar with, so there are a lot of people around who grew up with imperial units, and then my generation that were children when we switched so use both fairly interchangeably, and now children today who don't know what a foot or a yard is.


We did indeed, I'm 46 now and can work quite well in both imperial and metric, however we still measure distance in miles, that's how the road signs are. Although quite happy working in kg, it seems that most people have no understand ing when I say I have lost a couple of kg so I still have to convert for them, it depends on their upbringing, because I definitely remember being told when I was very little in infant school that we were going metric and being taught to put a line through a 7. I still do that, but it seems to have faded now and no one does that anymore. My dad is 70 and works totally in metric because that's how his company worked, but my ex husband was feet and inches all the way... Because thats how his dad worked (and we went to the same school?)

Each to his own I say :-)
  26181475
August 12, 2012 12:40 AM
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I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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I'm sorry but that is the daftest thing I've heard in a while! You weren't being serious were you?
August 12, 2012 12:42 AM
I'm English, and would like to point out that most British people are aware of both the decimal system and gravity.
  9711248
August 12, 2012 12:46 AM
QUOTE:

I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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In the UK, all food has to be sold in metric units. Confusion does indeed come in when people try to use grandma's recipe which is in imperial, or logging food on here. There's not many countries that still use imperial units, but there's just so frickin many Americans.
  9711248
August 12, 2012 12:50 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I think it should show ALL of them! So your tickers say

14lbs/1 stone/6.3KG

That way we are all in the loop and up to speed regardless of where we are from :)


^
This bigsmile


This would be great. I do like the pounds though as oddly it feels like its moving faster happy I'm chuffed when I loose each 10lb as opposed to only getting excited when I'm each 14lb down...
  10120152
August 12, 2012 12:54 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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In the UK, all food has to be sold in metric units. Confusion does indeed come in when people try to use grandma's recipe which is in imperial, or logging food on here. There's not many countries that still use imperial units, but there's just so frickin many Americans.


Yes, but if we brits are cooking from grandma's recipe, we go to one of our cookbooks that offer the conversion. If it says a pound of flour, I don't think "ooh that must be the same as a kilo!"
Also shops have to sell metric, but you'll find a lot of fruit and veg areas etc will offer the imperial system as supplementary indication.

If you've grown up with a range of measurements it is easier to deal with and adapt to. I'm 33, I know there's a substantial difference between measures and volumes etc. But that isn't what made me fat. What made me fat was eating a portion for 2 by myself, and not exercising. It wasn't because I couldn't workout the difference between pounds a kilos.
August 12, 2012 12:55 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I think it should show ALL of them! So your tickers say

14lbs/1 stone/6.3KG

That way we are all in the loop and up to speed regardless of where we are from :)


^
This bigsmile


This would be great. I do like the pounds though as oddly it feels like its moving faster happy I'm chuffed when I loose each 10lb as opposed to only getting excited when I'm each 14lb down...


I'm actually quite liking the pound thing too. Because Onederland sounds great, whilst 14st 6lbs or whatever doesn't sound quite so appealing!
August 12, 2012 1:06 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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In the UK, all food has to be sold in metric units. Confusion does indeed come in when people try to use grandma's recipe which is in imperial, or logging food on here. There's not many countries that still use imperial units, but there's just so frickin many Americans.


Yes, but if we brits are cooking from grandma's recipe, we go to one of our cookbooks that offer the conversion. If it says a pound of flour, I don't think "ooh that must be the same as a kilo!"
Also shops have to sell metric, but you'll find a lot of fruit and veg areas etc will offer the imperial system as supplementary indication.

If you've grown up with a range of measurements it is easier to deal with and adapt to. I'm 33, I know there's a substantial difference between measures and volumes etc. But that isn't what made me fat. What made me fat was eating a portion for 2 by myself, and not exercising. It wasn't because I couldn't workout the difference between pounds a kilos.


Nobody is talking about what makes people overweight.

The majority of people are confused by things as simple as the difference between cooked and raw weight nutritional values. Having them convert values adds to more confusion, yet another barrier to make weight loss difficult for them. If it's too hard, they'll give up. There is absolutely no benefit to keeping archaic measurements. The globe should have one standard system of measurements so that everyone can understand any measurements.

As an intelligent person, it's easy to greatly over estimate the average intelligence of the population.
  9711248
August 12, 2012 1:11 AM
QUOTE:

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QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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In the UK, all food has to be sold in metric units. Confusion does indeed come in when people try to use grandma's recipe which is in imperial, or logging food on here. There's not many countries that still use imperial units, but there's just so frickin many Americans.


Yes, but if we brits are cooking from grandma's recipe, we go to one of our cookbooks that offer the conversion. If it says a pound of flour, I don't think "ooh that must be the same as a kilo!"
Also shops have to sell metric, but you'll find a lot of fruit and veg areas etc will offer the imperial system as supplementary indication.

If you've grown up with a range of measurements it is easier to deal with and adapt to. I'm 33, I know there's a substantial difference between measures and volumes etc. But that isn't what made me fat. What made me fat was eating a portion for 2 by myself, and not exercising. It wasn't because I couldn't workout the difference between pounds a kilos.


Nobody is talking about what makes people overweight.

The majority of people are confused by things as simple as the difference between cooked and raw weight nutritional values. Having them convert values adds to more confusion, yet another barrier to make weight loss difficult for them. If it's too hard, they'll give up. There is absolutely no benefit to keeping archaic measurements. The globe should have one standard system of measurements so that everyone can understand any measurements.

As an intelligent person, it's easy to greatly over estimate the average intelligence of the population.


"The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food. "

That is talking about what makes people overweight. Yes, it is easy to over estimate the average intelligence of the population, but it is also easy to assume them stupid. A lot of overweight people are overweight because they don't cook from scratch, and eat a lot of fast food, and then don't get enoguh exercise. We notice weights and measures constantly because we're aware of the need for portion control. Joe public isn't paying attention to weights and measures, be it metric or imperial. They buy a packet and heat and eat.
August 12, 2012 1:16 AM
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I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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In the UK, all food has to be sold in metric units. Confusion does indeed come in when people try to use grandma's recipe which is in imperial, or logging food on here. There's not many countries that still use imperial units, but there's just so frickin many Americans.


Yes, but if we brits are cooking from grandma's recipe, we go to one of our cookbooks that offer the conversion. If it says a pound of flour, I don't think "ooh that must be the same as a kilo!"
Also shops have to sell metric, but you'll find a lot of fruit and veg areas etc will offer the imperial system as supplementary indication.

If you've grown up with a range of measurements it is easier to deal with and adapt to. I'm 33, I know there's a substantial difference between measures and volumes etc. But that isn't what made me fat. What made me fat was eating a portion for 2 by myself, and not exercising. It wasn't because I couldn't workout the difference between pounds a kilos.


Nobody is talking about what makes people overweight.

The majority of people are confused by things as simple as the difference between cooked and raw weight nutritional values. Having them convert values adds to more confusion, yet another barrier to make weight loss difficult for them. If it's too hard, they'll give up. There is absolutely no benefit to keeping archaic measurements. The globe should have one standard system of measurements so that everyone can understand any measurements.

As an intelligent person, it's easy to greatly over estimate the average intelligence of the population.


"The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food. "

That is talking about what makes people overweight. Yes, it is easy to over estimate the average intelligence of the population, but it is also easy to assume them stupid. A lot of overweight people are overweight because they don't cook from scratch, and eat a lot of fast food, and then don't get enoguh exercise. We notice weights and measures constantly because we're aware of the need for portion control. Joe public isn't paying attention to weights and measures, be it metric or imperial. They buy a packet and heat and eat.


Exactly, which is why it's a barrier specifically for those that are trying lose weight, which I believe the original post was referring to. I can only say for sure that I was, which is why I didn't quote you in my first quote.
  9711248
August 12, 2012 1:22 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I wished the American system would have gone metric a long time ago. Conversion and calculation is so much easier doing it by 10's rather than trying to figure out pounds, inches, stones, etc.
The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food.

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Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition



In the UK, all food has to be sold in metric units. Confusion does indeed come in when people try to use grandma's recipe which is in imperial, or logging food on here. There's not many countries that still use imperial units, but there's just so frickin many Americans.


Yes, but if we brits are cooking from grandma's recipe, we go to one of our cookbooks that offer the conversion. If it says a pound of flour, I don't think "ooh that must be the same as a kilo!"
Also shops have to sell metric, but you'll find a lot of fruit and veg areas etc will offer the imperial system as supplementary indication.

If you've grown up with a range of measurements it is easier to deal with and adapt to. I'm 33, I know there's a substantial difference between measures and volumes etc. But that isn't what made me fat. What made me fat was eating a portion for 2 by myself, and not exercising. It wasn't because I couldn't workout the difference between pounds a kilos.


Nobody is talking about what makes people overweight.

The majority of people are confused by things as simple as the difference between cooked and raw weight nutritional values. Having them convert values adds to more confusion, yet another barrier to make weight loss difficult for them. If it's too hard, they'll give up. There is absolutely no benefit to keeping archaic measurements. The globe should have one standard system of measurements so that everyone can understand any measurements.

As an intelligent person, it's easy to greatly over estimate the average intelligence of the population.


"The English system has too many conversions to figure out which is probably why people can't figure out how much to eat, how much exercise to do, and how to measure food. "

That is talking about what makes people overweight. Yes, it is easy to over estimate the average intelligence of the population, but it is also easy to assume them stupid. A lot of overweight people are overweight because they don't cook from scratch, and eat a lot of fast food, and then don't get enoguh exercise. We notice weights and measures constantly because we're aware of the need for portion control. Joe public isn't paying attention to weights and measures, be it metric or imperial. They buy a packet and heat and eat.


Exactly, which is why it's a barrier specifically for those that are trying lose weight, which I believe the original post was referring to. I can only say for sure that I was, which is why I didn't quote you in my first quote.


OK, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. At least for me, in the UK, having different systems is not a barrier, not to anyone I know. And especially now with google and the option to find conversion charts within seconds. You make a mistake maybe once with a volume or quantity, you know not to do it again.

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