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July 17, 2012 3:48 PM
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  7755967
July 17, 2012 3:48 PM
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2-Wheat is bad. It and other grains will spike your blood sugar more than table sugar. Wheat is particularly bad. It has addictive properties and perpetuates food addiction among countless other medical conditions including diabetes, obesity and cancer to name a few. This is not my opinion, this is medical fact proven over and over again through medical studies. For an extremely good overview of these findings, I suggest you read the book Wheat Belly.


Please provide studies.
  10095807
July 17, 2012 3:50 PM
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Dr. Oz is a TOOL....

Tool is an awesome band, Dr. Oz is a joke \m/




^^ +100000


AGREED 100%... TOOL is THE best band period. FTW!!!


I have never watched Dr Oz, but I can confirm the 2 above me as being correct in their statements. Tool kicks serious butt, and I have been fortunate enough to see them AND a perfect circle live in the past 3 years drinker
  18984896
July 17, 2012 3:50 PM
Google "wheat belly" and you'll probably see where Dr. Oz is getting his facts from.

I'm not going to weigh in on whether I agree or not, but it is interesting to read.
July 17, 2012 3:58 PM
I don't believe wheat is bad for most. I do prefer rye or white bread.
Phytic acid compounds do block quite a bit though, the molecule binds with minerals such as calcium, magnesium, iron, zinc.. so it might be chelating some important minerals.
Also inhibiting digestive enzymes such as pepsin,, amylase and trypsin.
July 17, 2012 4:02 PM
Dr. Oz endorses products because he gets paid to do it, not because he has done any research on his own or has actually tried the product. He's right sometimes... but don't believe everything you see on television... He doesn't have his own show out of the goodness of his heart... He's receiving a paycheck, the network pays him to speak about certain things.

I've tried products that he recommended, and some worked... but most didn't, every product doesn't work for every single person anyway, but I wouldn't take stock in very much that says (when he is encouraging his viewers to use a certain product) unless you know it to be true from your own research or experience.

Dr, Oz is like many doctors... arrogant in thinking that they know everything. Ever notice how so many patients go misdiagnosed/undiagnosed even though the have persistent health issues? Medical science is great, so is homeopathic and complimentary medicine. Either way, you must take your health into your own hands to a certain extent (I am not saying that you should try to treat yourself for cancer or perform surgery on yourself)... some people are just after money in the medical field, I know this from experience, being a pre- med student myself.

Do your research... see how wheat bread or white bread affects you... The grains have been genetically modified in both, like most of the food we eat... that's why it's best to grow your own or buy organic, unmodified foods when possible. Removing it from my diet was the best thing for me personally.
July 17, 2012 4:09 PM
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Why is most of the people on this post hating on Dr.Oz?

He seems like a smart guy, who knows what he's talking about most of the time...


The problem is what he "knows" changes daily depending on the fad
July 17, 2012 4:16 PM
If you want to want to really know the difference between wheat and grain you need to FIRST stop trying to convince yourself that Celiacs and Gluten Intolerance is just some hippie mumbo jumbo. It's not. Celiac/Gluten intolerance deniers can go away now. I have no help for you and you can take your hating on my diet elsewhere.

Still with me?
Consider in your answer the science of food production, specifically genetic modification.

STOP - If you really just aren't that interested in either of those things (gluten and food science) - they stop right here. Go back to eating the way you want. Just limit your calories and move on with your life.

If you really DO have an interest, there are some good blogs, articles and staring points. There is no 2 cent easy answer to this one. The only answer on if it is good or bad for YOU and only YOU is that "it depends". On what? Well, how you feel, how much fiber you want/need in your diet, if your able to tolerate it or not, etc, etc etc. Good luck!

Health Guidance.org
http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/5153/1/White-Bread-vs-Whole-Wheat---Any-Questions.html

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
http://www.ajcn.org/content/79/4/669.full

One of my go-to Gluten Free blogs on the "wheat belly" book. She tears it apart.
http://noglutennoproblem.blogspot.com/2012/03/wheat-belly-busted.html
  19370688
July 17, 2012 4:28 PM
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If you want to want to really know the difference between wheat and grain you need to FIRST stop trying to convince yourself that Celiacs and Gluten Intolerance is just some hippie mumbo jumbo. It's not. Celiac/Gluten intolerance deniers can go away now. I have no help for you and you can take your hating on my diet elsewhere.

Still with me?
Consider in your answer the science of food production, specifically genetic modification.

STOP - If you really just aren't that interested in either of those things (gluten and food science) - they stop right here. Go back to eating the way you want. Just limit your calories and move on with your life.

If you really DO have an interest, there are some good blogs, articles and staring points. There is no 2 cent easy answer to this one. The only answer on if it is good or bad for YOU and only YOU is that "it depends". On what? Well, how you feel, how much fiber you want/need in your diet, if your able to tolerate it or not, etc, etc etc. Good luck!

Health Guidance.org
http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/5153/1/White-Bread-vs-Whole-Wheat---Any-Questions.html

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
http://www.ajcn.org/content/79/4/669.full

One of my go-to Gluten Free blogs on the "wheat belly" book. She tears it apart.
http://noglutennoproblem.blogspot.com/2012/03/wheat-belly-busted.html



Thanks for your post. I really appreciate the straight forward points and link to your blog re: wheat belly. So much information and mis-information, it's hard to make headway sometimes.
July 17, 2012 4:30 PM
I say don't listen to him!! I LOVE my whole wheat noodles and bread =) I'm still losing btw.
  4107195
July 17, 2012 4:31 PM
IIFYM
July 17, 2012 4:35 PM
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IIFYM


best post in this whole thread. Woodrepinreallife/10
  10095807
July 17, 2012 4:37 PM
Does anyone know where Ezekiel sprouted bread stand? Is it whole grain?
July 17, 2012 4:37 PM
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Consider in your answer the science of food production, specifically genetic modification.


There is no genetically modified (GMO) wheat in the human or animal food supply anywhere in the world.
  8487736
July 17, 2012 4:38 PM
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Why is most of the people on this post hating on Dr.Oz?

He seems like a smart guy, who knows what he's talking about most of the time...


Agreed! He is, after all, a practising heart surgeon in NYC and as far as I'm concerned far more qualified to comment on these issues than almost anyone here. Besides he has several (dozens for all we know) of researchers working for the show who have carefully investigated every claim he makes. I am not an Oz-Lover but I do think he knows what he's talking about....he's seen the hearts of hundreds of sick people, has anyone here done that?
  626126
July 17, 2012 4:39 PM
I'm not a Dr. Oz fan. I am not going to take the advice of any doctor who gets paid to endorse products on TV. He's a fear-mongerer, plain and simple. A few months ago, it as arsenic in the apple juice. Now, it's bread is evil. Next, it will be spinach gives you cancer.
July 17, 2012 4:42 PM
I eat brown rice alot and enjoy it. I love whole wheat bread but it don't like me. I have had problem with candida and the yeast in bread is not good for me. Also bread blots me....I'm trying to let it go.
  22395372
July 17, 2012 4:48 PM
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Agreed! He is, after all, a practising heart surgeon in NYC and as far as I'm concerned far more qualified to comment on these issues than almost anyone here. Besides he has several (dozens for all we know) of researchers working for the show who have carefully investigated every claim he makes. I am not an Oz-Lover but I do think he knows what he's talking about....he's seen the hearts of hundreds of sick people, has anyone here done that?


Dumb claim. A heart surgeon isn't a nutritionist or dietician. Should I listen to my dentist about nutrition too? I mean he has seen plenty of people with bad teeth "due to their eating habits".

As far as the "researchers" claim...I've seen him endorse so many products and make some pretty ridiculous claim for things that have absolutely zero research behind them. Look at his raspberry ketone claims...There was only one or two studies actually done on them, which both proved raspberry ketones made no difference in weight loss.
Edited by akaOtherWise On July 17, 2012 4:51 PM
  10095807
July 17, 2012 8:41 PM
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I know I'm a bit late to the party here, but there is quite a bit of misinformation in this thread. I'll address two of the major items.

1- fiber does not "offset carbs". Fiber itself is a carbohydrate, however it cannot be absorbed by the body. So, when you see a total carb counts on a label, it includes the carbs from fiber. This is why you are able to subtract the amount of fiber from the total carbs to get "net carbs".

2-Wheat is bad. It and other grains will spike your blood sugar more than table sugar. Wheat is particularly bad. It has addictive properties and perpetuates food addiction among countless other medical conditions including diabetes, obesity and cancer to name a few. This is not my opinion, this is medical fact proven over and over again through medical studies. For an extremely good overview of these findings, I suggest you read the book Wheat Belly.


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Complaining about misinformation and the quoting "Wheat Belly." Oh, the irony. "Wheat Belly" is pretty much all misinformation.
July 17, 2012 11:22 PM
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Why is most of the people on this post hating on Dr.Oz?

Because (IMO) he's a fear-mongering supplement whore who sells himself to the highest bidder and promotes useless snake oils, with a new "miracle cure" seemingly every week or so. He's an Oprah creation which gives him instant credibility with many of her legion of fans, but my knee-jerk reaction is to doubt anything I hear/read which starts out with "Dr. Oz says...." or "According to Dr. Oz....". I put about as much faith in him as I do in most of the "Ministers of Broscience" on fitness/bodybuilding forums.
  18984754
July 18, 2012 7:43 AM
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Agreed! He is, after all, a practising heart surgeon in NYC and as far as I'm concerned far more qualified to comment on these issues than almost anyone here. Besides he has several (dozens for all we know) of researchers working for the show who have carefully investigated every claim he makes. I am not an Oz-Lover but I do think he knows what he's talking about....he's seen the hearts of hundreds of sick people, has anyone here done that?


Dumb claim. A heart surgeon isn't a nutritionist or dietician. Should I listen to my dentist about nutrition too? I mean he has seen plenty of people with bad teeth "due to their eating habits".

As far as the "researchers" claim...I've seen him endorse so many products and make some pretty ridiculous claim for things that have absolutely zero research behind them. Look at his raspberry ketone claims...There was only one or two studies actually done on them, which both proved raspberry ketones made no difference in weight loss.



Can't help that you think my claim is "dumb", but really, a heart surgeon is certainly more qualified to comment on nutrituion than you or I are!
  626126
July 18, 2012 7:53 AM
A whole grain includes, basically, the whole grain. A grain is made up of 3 parts; the bran, the germ, and the endosperm.
The bran is the outer layer that contains all the vitamins and fibre. The germ is the inner layer which has the protein and carbohydrates, as well as some vitamins. The endosperm is the little 'seed' part, that contains the majority of the nutrients and vitamins as well as essential fatty acids, this is the part that sprouts in to new plants. So a whole grain is completely intact and contains all three of these parts.

Whole wheat and white bread products are processed grains that have been stripped of the germ and bran, taking away the fibre, EFAs, and almost all of the vitamins and minerals. What you are left with is refined carbohydrates and protein. White bread is made from the same processed grains that have been bleached.

An item that is truly whole grain will have the words "whole grain..." as the first ingredient. Anything that starts with the word "enriched" means the grain has been stripped down and select processed vitamins and minerals have been added back in, hence the enrichment.
July 18, 2012 7:55 AM
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Does anyone know where Ezekiel sprouted bread stand? Is it whole grain?


I don't know the exact brand, but look at the ingredients. If the first ingredient is not a whole grain, the product is not whole grain.
If it says whole wheat or enriched anything, it is not whole grain.

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