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May 2, 2012 1:11 PM
I do not count fruits or veggies. I have never known of anyone gaining weight from eating fruits and vegetables. Back when I was a vegetarian that is all I ate and I ate a lot and I never gained a pound from them.
May 2, 2012 1:13 PM
Raw fruits and veggies and greens are NOT calorie dense, but they are not calorie free! But you can still eat a ton of them! My cup full of raw cauliflower that I snacked on was only 25 calories (low calorie dip I 50). I would have to eat a wheelbarrow full of cauliflower to over do it. An entire tomato is what, 25 calories? A full cup of strawberries is less than 50 calories. How much ice cream could you eat for those same quantities of calories?
May 2, 2012 1:15 PM
While its good for you, fruit can have a TON of calories. Some vegetables also have high calories. That's why I log it, along with everything else I eat. I didn't just eat junk before, I ate too much of everything. So I log everything now that I eat so I know how much I am eating.
  12251680
May 2, 2012 1:18 PM
Sure, veggies have calories but you'd have to eat an awful lot of them to negatively imapct your loss. I never once counted fresh veggies in terms of what I ate while losing (and was encouraged by my RD to eat 4+ servings daily). Fruit is another matter and I never lumped together "fruits and veggies" as being the same. I limit fruit to 2-3 servings a day because of the natural sugars. Veggies, I don't worry about, I'm just mindful of how I prepare them. Eating a bunch of plain broccoli will fill you up without worrying about the calorie count. But if you slather that same broccoli in cheese, then it becomes an issue.
  15247291
May 2, 2012 1:20 PM
Now that I am reading eveyone's post, I realize that I eat a lot of FRUIT and not so many veggies. That's why those calories add up quicker. I think I need to start eating more veggies when I want a healthy snack!
  20058221
May 2, 2012 1:23 PM
I can't see your diary to see what your calorie goal is or what your days have been like to give any advice there.

Personally, I log everything as best as I can. Not logging calories only fools my mind, not my body. Nothing is "free" but my fruit/veggie snacks are usually 6 oz baby carrots (70 cals), medium "lunchbox" apple (80 cals), two tomatoes cut up with a little salt and pepper (55 cals), 40 grapes (135 cals), medium banana (130 cals), medium pear (100 cals), 1.5 cups strawberries (75 cals). Pretty much any one of those items gets me from lunch to dinner without a problem.

I do try to have protien with each meal, that also helps keep me full. Good luck!
  13576931
May 2, 2012 1:27 PM
Not counting fruits and veggies on WW is why I failed at it. It's one thing to eat a bowl of cataloupe... but when you eat the whole damn cantaloupe it's going to be a problem.
  19721789
May 2, 2012 1:31 PM
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Now that I am reading eveyone's post, I realize that I eat a lot of FRUIT and not so many veggies. That's why those calories add up quicker. I think I need to start eating more veggies when I want a healthy snack!


Yes! Or go (as someone else mentioned) for something like watermelon :D
May 2, 2012 1:32 PM
There's more to food than calories, you know. Fiber, vitamins, minerals, protein, phytonutrients, antioxidants....

Go ahead and quit logging them. They do still have calories and they'll pile up while you pretend to ignore them.

Instead, why don't you cut things with less redeeming value? Chips, soda, sitting on the couch...
Edited by MrsCon40 On May 2, 2012 1:33 PM
May 2, 2012 1:34 PM
Why stop at fruit and veggies? Why bother logging anything at all?
May 2, 2012 1:35 PM
Sooo.. I just have to say that I have had great success with mfp... and I never log my veggies. I log my fruit because it is higher in carbs and sugar and anything that I add to/dip my veggies in, but never the veggies themselves. Having said that, you have to find whatever system works for you and go with that! Good luck!! glasses
May 2, 2012 1:37 PM
Two cups of arugula has only 20 calories. And it has a great zesty flavor so you don't even need anything on it. Yummy!
May 2, 2012 1:40 PM
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To try to keep my calories down I try to eat a lot of fruit and veggies but I always get frustrated because it's 100 calories here and there and eventually they add up. Is there any "free" food that doesn't have calories? I know WW allows you to eat fruit and veggies for no points. I'm tempted to not include fruits and veggies in my tracking... Does anyone do that?


If fruits and veggies are using up most of your calories that is a good thing. It is as it should be. What advantage would there be to ignoring all those calories?

Plain lettuce or celery probably could be considered free foods. They do have calories but it's so few that you could eat a big plateful and still not make much difference.
May 2, 2012 1:41 PM
You can pretend fruits and vegetables don't have calories, but your body doesn't change it's metabolic function according to your denial.
May 2, 2012 1:41 PM
If it goes in my mouth, it gets written down somewhere...
  2187305
May 2, 2012 1:42 PM
I have had to reduce the amount of fruit I eat since joining MFP - I always ate a healthy diet - loads of fruits and vegetables because that is what I have always been told is healthy but I was 21lbs over the healthy weight for my height!

Turns out I was actually eating too many calories of fruit (if there was such a thing as a fruit junkie that was me). I still eat alot of fruit and veg but I have reduced how much fruit and chosen lower calorie fruits - bananas are a nightmare when counting calories and I used to eat at least 1 a day!

I have now lost 28lbs and feel alot better for it and I log every mounthful/calorie of fruit and veg.

There really can be too much of a good thing!
  10471493
May 2, 2012 1:43 PM
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No free foods.......but......watermelon season is upon us and that is super low in calories.........47 calories per cup.


That reminds me of a recurring question I have...what exactly is a cup of watermelon? How do you measure that out?

As a guy that relies on his digital scale to solve problems like this, I sure wish more of the foods in the database were in there based on weight instead of volume.


I have wondered the same thing!! Especially since I buy the watermelon that is cut into chunks at the store, depending on the size of the chunk I have no idea if I am eating a cup. huh <-- that's me confused!
May 2, 2012 1:44 PM
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No free foods.......but......watermelon season is upon us and that is super low in calories.........47 calories per cup.


That reminds me of a recurring question I have...what exactly is a cup of watermelon? How do you measure that out?

As a guy that relies on his digital scale to solve problems like this, I sure wish more of the foods in the database were in there based on weight instead of volume.


Brace yourself; this is a highly advanced food measuring technique:

Weigh empty measuring cup. Fill measuring cup with watermelon flesh. Weigh full measuring cup. Subtract.
  15501055
May 2, 2012 1:44 PM
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If it goes in my mouth, it gets written down somewhere...

God keeps track in a giant book in Heaven.
May 2, 2012 1:46 PM
The benefit, even though they have calories, is that they pack a filling and nutritional punch (much more nutrition per-calorie than a lot of other foods). Celery is low (14 calories per half cup), and I think broccoli is as well. Regardless, if you use vegetables as a "filler" in place of higher calorie foods (like mashed potatoes, rice pilaf, etc), you'll be getting just as full, even more nutrition, and conserving calories. The trick is to use vegetables as a REPLACEMENT not an ADDITION to your diet.
I did WW for a year, and yes, they give you free fruits and vegetables, but their system is not calorie-counting based. It's based on carbs/fat/protein/fiber. Fiber and protein cancel out carbs and fat in their system, and obviously, veggies and fruit are high in fiber so it negates the sugar (carbs) according to their equation. I did lose 20 pounds on WW, so it isn't flawed logic, but you can't successfully mix their logic with the MFP program. MFP looks at calorie counting only for the purpose of your daily allowance, and fruit and veg do have calories.
  12397044
May 2, 2012 1:46 PM
celery, cucumbers, tomatoes, zucchini ....
Basically all high water content veggies will be lower in cals- munch away on these to get a "fuller" feeling, BUT always log everything in! If you're going over in cals, you'll have to exercise more to make up the difference- it's basic math.
  1075116
May 2, 2012 1:47 PM
french's mustard has no calories.
  20379392
May 2, 2012 1:47 PM
Get yourself a measuring cup, put the watermelon chunks in the cup until it equals 1 cup... it won't be exact (because there are open areas of air pockets in the cup), but it will be close enough to give you an idea of a portion size. When all else fails, remember that the size of a closed fist, for most people, is around a cup. If you're especially petite or large, this may not be true.
  12397044
May 2, 2012 1:47 PM
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The benefit, even though they have calories, is that they pack a filling and nutritional punch (much more nutrition per-calorie than a lot of other foods). Celery is low (14 calories per half cup), and I think broccoli is as well. Regardless, if you use vegetables as a "filler" in place of higher calorie foods (like mashed potatoes, rice pilaf, etc), you'll be getting just as full, even more nutrition, and conserving calories. The trick is to use vegetables as a REPLACEMENT not an ADDITION to your diet.
I did WW for a year, and yes, they give you free fruits and vegetables, but their system is not calorie-counting based. It's based on carbs/fat/protein/fiber. Fiber and protein cancel out carbs and fat in their system, and obviously, veggies and fruit are high in fiber so it negates the sugar (carbs) according to their equation. I did lose 20 pounds on WW, so it isn't flawed logic, but you can't successfully mix their logic with the MFP program. MFP looks at calorie counting only for the purpose of your daily allowance, and fruit and veg do have calories.



Nice response! Very informative. Thanks!
  20058221
May 2, 2012 1:48 PM
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french's mustard has no calories.

When you eat it in whatever the serving size is, it will be a negligible amount. If you eat more, the calories will stack up incrementally.

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