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April 26, 2012 9:59 AM
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Diet soda is extremely high in sodium. High salt intake = water retention. Water retention = added weight.



um ... no. it's not. don't just repeat wrong things just because you heard someone else say a wrong thing.
  13605134
April 26, 2012 10:00 AM
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Diet soda is extremely high in sodium. High salt intake = water retention. Water retention = added weight.


Extremely?

Most cans of diet soda have 40mg per can, that's absolutely nothing.


It's enough, though...especially for a drink. That on top of whatever other sodium one eats during the day can make a difference.
Edited by Reinventing_Me On April 26, 2012 10:01 AM
April 26, 2012 10:04 AM
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smokin How important do you think water is for weight loss?
And do you think diet sodas or coffee slow weight loss?


Water is hugely important. It allows your body to metabolize food better, helps clear out toxins, and higher water intake leads to lower water retention in most people, meaning you'll get a quick bonus weight loss. Drinking a lot of water also leaves less room for other less healthy drinks.

And as to the diet soda issue, there's a lot of debate on the issue. Here's what I found was true for ME, your mileage may vary.

When I was a soda drinker, I had this expectation that everything I drank had to have a flavor, and the only acceptable flavor was "sweet". So I'd sweeten my coffee, drink water with sugary "flavor packs", etc. I'd also find that I constantly craved sweet foods.

Once I went through the painful process of giving up the "sweetness in all things", I found I was craving empty sugars a lot less. I started enjoying the actual flavor of black coffee rather than covering it up with sweet, and I started finding that plain water was satisfying in and of itself. This took a while, but helped me get my sugar intake under control, which in turn allowed me to eat more sustaining foods (fats and proteins), which led to less constant hunger, which led to better food decisions.

So, whatever you choose to believe about the possibly-scary, possibly-bunk claims of the dangers of artificial or engineered sweeteners, there is a psychological component for some people (myself included) that you may want to consider.

Coffee? Depends on how you drink it. Black coffee is basically calorie-free, and the caffeine is a stimulant so you get a little metabolism boost and a drop in appetite. It's also one of the safest stimulants out there because you tend to dose yourself with it very slowly. But if you start adding sugar to it, it can rapidly become an empty calorie delivery system.
  20407831
April 26, 2012 10:05 AM
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QUOTE:

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Diet soda is extremely high in sodium. High salt intake = water retention. Water retention = added weight.


Extremely?

Most cans of diet soda have 40mg per can, that's absolutely nothing.


It's enough, though...especially for a drink. That on top of whatever other sodium one eats during the day can make a difference.


you know that the 35mg of sodium (per 8 oz.) in a can of pepsi or coke -- yeah, even the regular version -- is a miniscule amount of what you are officially 'allowed' a day, right? actually, it's right about 1.5 percent of your 2,300. I think there's enough room left for the rest of the day there.
Edited by tsh0ck On April 26, 2012 10:08 AM
  13605134
April 26, 2012 10:06 AM
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QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Diet soda is extremely high in sodium. High salt intake = water retention. Water retention = added weight.


Extremely?

Most cans of diet soda have 40mg per can, that's absolutely nothing.


It's enough, though...especially for a drink. That on top of whatever other sodium one eats during the day can make a difference.


It's 1-2 DV%, really... it's nothing.
April 26, 2012 10:06 AM
Water is the best drink on earth and is vital for your weight loss. Coffee isn't bad however coffee is heavily dependent on what you put in it. There are quite a few research articles which solidify drinking BLACK coffee for muscle development and energy. The amount of table sugar and your choice of creamer can negate the positive effects of plain ole black coffee. Diet sodas are a different story alltogether. Obviously there is near to 0 impact of your daily calories, the issue is the chemicals, preservatives, and other "man made" ingredients your body doesn't need.

For Fitness continue to drink water, diet soda, and coffee with a small amount of sugar and a low fat creamer

For Fitness & Health drink water, NO DIET SODA, and coffee either black or at the very least sugar in the raw or other natural alternative and a low fat creamer if you desire.
April 26, 2012 10:06 AM
I drink about 2000 ml of water per day... how many glasses of water is that?? is too much water??drinker
April 26, 2012 10:11 AM
A cup of water as it's put on here is 8oz. 2000ml = 70 ounces, which is about 8-9 cups. 8 cups of water is what is generally recommended, so no, you're just right :) I drink 2000ml of water a day too. A bit more if I'm exercising.
April 26, 2012 10:12 AM
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Diet soda is extremely high in sodium. High salt intake = water retention. Water retention = added weight.


Extremely?

Most cans of diet soda have 40mg per can, that's absolutely nothing.


It's enough, though...especially for a drink. That on top of whatever other sodium one eats during the day can make a difference.


It's 1-2 DV%, really... it's nothing.


exactly. there is more sodium in a cup of carrots or spinach or even a half cup of celery.
  13605134
April 26, 2012 10:16 AM
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I drink about 2000 ml of water per day... how many glasses of water is that?? is too much water??drinker

Ok! thanks!!
April 26, 2012 10:17 AM
The only time I drink diet soda is when there's liquor in it.
April 26, 2012 10:18 AM
I believe the whole thing is about hydration. People say you need x amount of fluid a day, and you can get that fluid from food, coffee, soda, etc. The point is you're hydrating yourself.

However, it's all about quality. Just as I can meet my hydration needs with diet soda and coffee, I can stay within my calorie goals by eating, say, 5 cookies. So I've met my goals, but the quality is dubious.

So really, I think it depends on how high you want the *quality* of your hydration :)

And I ain't lecturing you - I drink diet energy drinks and coffee, so don't think I'm being all holy! Just saying :)
April 26, 2012 10:20 AM
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I read somewhere that the artificial sweetner in Diet Soda actually makes you hungry. I haven't really drank soda since I was 11 years old so I can't say I know that to be true or false based on experience, but I have heard things about it contributing to weight gain.


I believe this theory fully. I don't think diet soda contributes to weight gain directly, but I believe that it messes with the chemical balance in your brain, as well as making you crave unhealthy things, and make you hungrier in general. I honestly love diet pop as a treat but since cutting out to basically only having it in social situations, I feel much better. I have been less bloated and am retaining less water as a result of not having the high levels of sodium in diet pop.
  15575769
April 26, 2012 10:24 AM
I see nothing wrong with the occasional diet soda, but I drink mainly water and unsweetened green tea. And I only count half of the green tea towards my water intake.

And I average about 3-4 liters a day. My body needs that, if I drink less I can definitely tell a difference.
  1128339
April 26, 2012 10:25 AM
Water: we can't live without it! Diet sodas: contain aspartame, thus, very bad!
April 26, 2012 10:26 AM
The issue with the diet soda is about the aspartame right?
I get like 3 cans on the week, I like that diet pepsi
  12936643
April 26, 2012 10:28 AM
I drink diet on occasion. It's a nice textural change from just water with the carbonation. Although, I'm sure I could get seltzer water or something and make my own more healthier 'soda'.
  12280016
April 26, 2012 10:31 AM
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I believe the whole thing is about hydration. People say you need x amount of fluid a day, and you can get that fluid from food, coffee, soda, etc. The point is you're hydrating yourself.

However, it's all about quality. Just as I can meet my hydration needs with diet soda and coffee, I can stay within my calorie goals by eating, say, 5 cookies. So I've met my goals, but the quality is dubious.

So really, I think it depends on how high you want the *quality* of your hydration :)

And I ain't lecturing you - I drink diet energy drinks and coffee, so don't think I'm being all holy! Just saying :)


I agree with your point about sources for hydration.
Certainly, eating 5 cookies vs eating meat and veg (with the same amount of calories) would have less nutritional value.
But that doesn't mean that water is superior because it has no additives.
For example, coffee has been shown to have many benefical effects such as preventing cancer and diabetes in addition to providing hydration. So couldn't one say that coffee as a hydration source actually has a higher "quality" than plain old water?

(Not arguing; just debating)
April 26, 2012 10:36 AM
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I believe the whole thing is about hydration. People say you need x amount of fluid a day, and you can get that fluid from food, coffee, soda, etc. The point is you're hydrating yourself.

However, it's all about quality. Just as I can meet my hydration needs with diet soda and coffee, I can stay within my calorie goals by eating, say, 5 cookies. So I've met my goals, but the quality is dubious.

So really, I think it depends on how high you want the *quality* of your hydration :)

And I ain't lecturing you - I drink diet energy drinks and coffee, so don't think I'm being all holy! Just saying :)


I agree with your point about sources for hydration.
Certainly, eating 5 cookies vs eating meat and veg (with the same amount of calories) would have less nutritional value.
But that doesn't mean that water is superior because it has no additives.
For example, coffee has been shown to have many benefical effects such as preventing cancer and diabetes in addition to providing hydration. So couldn't one say that coffee as a hydration source actually has a higher "quality" than plain old water?

(Not arguing; just debating)


That's a good point, I didn't consider this. I suppose I was thinking about caffeine and bad lab stuff, but as you say there's some good stuff in coffee. And green tea has caffeine, but then it also has a lot of good stuff in as well.

Perhaps I should revise my statement to just focus on diet soda and not so much coffee. What I say stands: think about the quality. However, as you say, be aware of exactly what's in your drink of choice, good and bad :)

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