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April 25, 2012 1:36 PM
When I first started the ketogenic diet about 2 months ago, I groaned at the thought of having to eat another snack/meal AGAIN. I was never hungry. Now, for the past month or so, I'm ridiculously hungry. Hungry in my throat and in my stomach and mouth. I don't want to go over my calorie goal, but it is so uncomfortable feeling this empty all the time! Drinking tea or eating raw vegetables like celery and broccoli make me hungrier, and meat doesn't really help either. What am I doing wrong?
  8238495
April 25, 2012 1:41 PM
Sorry but I'm sure I'm not the only one... what is this ketogenic diet please?
  10432922
April 25, 2012 1:43 PM
Can you open your diary to the public? youre probably depriving yourself.
  20746775
April 25, 2012 1:43 PM
i've heard people speak of keto, but yes tell us what it is. i just tried richard simmons food mover blast off and i was so hungry my body was shaking
April 25, 2012 1:44 PM
Simple as, your not eating enough! Please open your diary so I can see if I can help with your hunger!
April 25, 2012 1:45 PM
It's a very low carb diet. Atkins is a keto diet. You eat very low carb which puts your body into ketosis which forces your body to burn fat for fuel as opposed to burning carbs.
Edited by stephenatl09 On April 25, 2012 1:46 PM
  9781637
April 25, 2012 1:46 PM
It's a high - fat diet, which means you don't feel full, like when you eat meat or veggies. But, you reach your calorie count faster. I would switch diets.
  16380354
April 25, 2012 1:47 PM
I just made my diary public. I'm supposed to eat 1200 calories a day but I usually go over. Also I'm 5'1" and 122 lbs if that helps anything.

The keto diet is a high-protein, extremely low-carb diet that requires you to eat every 2.5-3 hours. After depriving yourself dramatically of carbs in the first stage, your body goes into ketosis and ketones are detectable by strips in your urine. Then, supposedly, fat burns and muscle is not lost because you're eating so much protein.
  8238495
April 25, 2012 1:49 PM
Why bother with these horrible diets when you can eat 1800+ calories with the same results? Why not just figure out your tdee and cut 20%, and then add ome strength training and a little cardio? At least with the latter you will maintain lean muscles mass and not starve.
April 25, 2012 1:50 PM
are you eating no carbs at all, or a little bit?

if none, maybe add in a little bit. it might help fill you up without completely negating the whole concept of the keto diet.
April 25, 2012 1:52 PM
I am on a low carb diet and dont often feel hungry at all never starving like you are.. send me a add message and you can look at my food diary and see. I am doing 20% carb 40% good fats and 40% good protiens.. and Im doing 1200 calories and I do on occassion go over but not often..
  11867461
April 25, 2012 1:53 PM
Your problem is that you are trying to stick to a calorie goal that MFP sets (I'm assuming) and eating Keto. This will not work. One of the beauties about eating ketogenically is that you don't really need to restrict calories. I've lost most of my weight (2x over) eating close to 1000cal more a day than MFP would recommend for my size.

If you are still hungry eat some meat and cheese! Eat some nuts, eat more vegtables...just don't go over your prescribed carbs for the day and you'll be fine.

I've consumed as much as 8000 calories in a day and lost 2lbs for the week, with the rest of the week averaging 2500-3500 cals a day, all while sitting at a desk job and not exercising. Calories in vs. calories out isn't total bull****, but certainly only one way to skin the cat.

Fact of the matter is that if you are hungry you need to eat more, 'nuff said.
  4724989
April 25, 2012 1:53 PM
The only carbs I get are from vegetables, I think. I don't eat any sugar, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, or starchy vegetables.
  8238495
April 25, 2012 1:54 PM
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It's a high - fat diet, which means you don't feel full, like when you eat meat or veggies.


No, fat will make you feel satisfied faster and longer. Eating fat and protein will make one feel satisfied far longer. Fat has a higher caloric value and takes longer to burn off.

I am sure there is another reason to her starving all the time.
  20292110
April 25, 2012 1:54 PM
yuck, I couldn't go without carbs. I get shaky and irritable and a headache.
  5669343
April 25, 2012 1:55 PM
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i've heard people speak of keto, but yes tell us what it is. i just tried richard simmons food mover blast off and i was so hungry my body was shaking


I remember the food mover!!!
April 25, 2012 1:56 PM
You don't need to open your diary. You are starving because YOU ARE STARVING!

Eat some food.
  6611838
April 25, 2012 1:58 PM
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The only carbs I get are from vegetables, I think. I don't eat any sugar, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, or starchy vegetables.


eat more. simple.

I think your overall calories are probably too low. You may have to increase the calorie goal but make the adjustments to the fat and/or protein. Although, even at my 75g goal, I am in a moderate level of keytones using the urine test sticks. So you are probably gonna have to play around with your goals and be sure you eat them each day.
Edited by 10KEyes On April 25, 2012 2:07 PM
  20292110
April 25, 2012 1:58 PM
if you're starving then eat. if keto isn't working for you then change it.
April 25, 2012 1:59 PM
Are you on this for a health reason or for weight loss? I did this (high fat keto) for a while for a seizure disorder/migraines and it really helped, but even with THAT I couldn't stick to it. I try to keep my carbs low-ish, but yeah. I can't imagine anyone doing this for weight loss.
April 25, 2012 2:01 PM
I just looked at your diary and I think you are eating too low fat. Try adding some fat and up your calories somewhat. I think that might help. 1200 calories is awfully low in my opinion for anybody that does any exercise/activity at all.
  9781637
April 25, 2012 2:03 PM
QUOTE:

Are you on this for a health reason or for weight loss? I did this (high fat keto) for a while for a seizure disorder/migraines and it really helped, but even with THAT I couldn't stick to it. I try to keep my carbs low-ish, but yeah. I can't imagine anyone doing this for weight loss.
I am just doing this for weight loss. It's not too difficult except for being hungry all the time!
  8238495
April 25, 2012 2:04 PM
Okay-- I'm sorry, I'll chime in here, although I almost never, ever come to these threads.

I have to ask-- what in the world are you thinking? You're looking for ketones in your urine as a GOOD thing? My daughter is a juvenile diabetic, and was in the hospital near death due to diabetic keto-acidosis-- in short, ketones in her urine. Her body couldn't burn sugar, so it turned to fat and muscle to survive.

When your body burns fat and muscle for fuel instead of sugar LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO, the byproducts are toxic-- ketones. Any person with any sense will tell you that's NOT A GOOD THING.

You came here for advice. I advise you to abandon this nonsense and eat a sensible freaking diet. 1200 calories in and of itself isn't so bad. But for heaven's sake, not to mention YOUR BODY'S sake, please eat sensibly.
April 25, 2012 2:04 PM
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The only carbs I get are from vegetables, I think. I don't eat any sugar, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, or starchy vegetables.

lower your carbs to between 75g and 100g. They are too high. You could go lower, but I don't know if it is necessary. Then adjust your protein for your lean body mass, and the fat will be what is left. That should fix it. The carbs are making you crave.



Did you read her diary? She's eating under 50g carbs per day.
April 25, 2012 2:04 PM
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The only carbs I get are from vegetables, I think. I don't eat any sugar, bread, rice, pasta, cereal, or starchy vegetables.


Looking back a few weeks on your diary I can give you these suggestions:

Light salad dressing - Stop using that, go full fat. It will taste better and won't have the hidden sugars in them that most "lite" products do.

Meatless burgers? - Stop eating processed veggie goop. Eat a real burger, you need the fat to succeed on a keto diet

Fat free cheese - Don't even bother with this stuff, it's highly processed and gives you none of the good aspects of cheese, including the fat

Balsalmic vinegar - Actually pretty high in sugar/glycemic impact. Avoid it and go for standard oil and vinegar dressings or ranch and ceasar dressings.

Anything with wheat in it - You have to avoid this for success. Even if it's only occasionally, generally it's too much.
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