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GasMasterFlas
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April 12, 2012 18:51
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this happened to someone i know. luckily they were able to shuffle seats so that she didnt have to pay, but it was a HUGE slap in the face for her about her weight
unfortunate situation and embarrassing. i dont know what the correct thing to do is, because i see both sides of the argument.
The correct thing to do is make the policy clear upon the purchase of the seat, and handle situations on-plane with respect and dignity. The passengers need to comply with the policy too.
Yeah, right. Passengers will willingly admit they are too big and offer to buy two seats.... 
Not what I meant.
The airline should make it clear that the seat on the flight is X inches wide, and if you don't fit, you'll have to purchase two. if you show up and don't fit, comply or get off the plane. Sucks, but that is fair.
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Shannon023
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April 12, 2012 18:51
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I think they should. I have been wedged in a middle seat between 2 VERY large people before and it was utterly ridiculous. One woman lifted the armrest between us and her thigh and arm pushed right on top of me for 4 hours! The other one had her leg extended into my leg area. I got up and asked to move (discreetly) but the flight was full. I was not rude to these women but I was very annoyed.
I paid for my seat, and I should get the whole seat; I didn't get a discount bc she took up 30% of my seat. If someone is going to take up more space than 1 seat, sorry, they gotta pay.
I know it's expensive, but unless they're gonna pay for 30% of the next passenger's seat, they need to suck it up.
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jamiem1102
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April 12, 2012 19:00
Uh... I don't think there's a tactful way to tell people that they are too fat to fit in one seat, but I agree with the majority on this one. If you're too big to fit in one seat, then just save yourself the embarrassment and purchase two seats yourself. I know a guy (a large guy) who always buys two seats when he flies... he says that it's way worse and far more awkward having to have "the talk" with the flight attendant. 
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lisakyle_11
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April 12, 2012 19:02
yes i think so. not pleasant, but airlines are selling seats.
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cmriverside
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April 12, 2012 19:03
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this happened to someone i know. luckily they were able to shuffle seats so that she didnt have to pay, but it was a HUGE slap in the face for her about her weight
unfortunate situation and embarrassing. i dont know what the correct thing to do is, because i see both sides of the argument.
The correct thing to do is make the policy clear upon the purchase of the seat, and handle situations on-plane with respect and dignity. The passengers need to comply with the policy too.
Yeah, right. Passengers will willingly admit they are too big and offer to buy two seats....
Not what I meant.
The airline should make it clear that the seat on the flight is X inches wide, and if you don't fit, you'll have to purchase two. if you show up and don't fit, comply or get off the plane. Sucks, but that is fair.
Most airlines state that in their policies already. Large passengers must be in denial or something. The poor gate attendants and flight attendants. I don't envy them that little task......the people must have never flown before if they really think they will fit in the seats.
They should have a measuring device at the TSA screening station. Those TSA agents should be used to pissed-off people already. Make everyone sit in a regular seat and if you don't fit, you have to have two tickets to get past TSA. I would love to see TSA catch even more grief. They're already like the creepers of the travel industry.
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Toddrific
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April 12, 2012 19:06
It seems to me that it could be carried over to other areas of society. It can be like a cigarette tax.
To big for one seat, pay for two.
Can't fit in XL clothing or smaller, pay more.
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Rubybelle
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April 12, 2012 19:10
I think they should have to pay a surcharge - so it costs extra but not necessarily two full seats.
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GasMasterFlas
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April 12, 2012 19:14
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It seems to me that it could be carried over to other areas of society. It can be like a cigarette tax.
To big for one seat, pay for two.
Can't fit in XL clothing or smaller, pay more.
etc.
Larger sizes cost more already, which makes sense, since they require more material.
Taxes, though... taxing one population more than another as a way to affect/punish behavior is wrong, wrong, wrong.
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DrewMaxwell
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April 12, 2012 19:21
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If someone is taking use of two seats, then yes they should pay for the use of two seats. Simple as that.
If you're "offended" because the airline is "bringing your obesity to attention", uh then change that & lose some damn weight.
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Toddrific
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April 12, 2012 19:25
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It seems to me that it could be carried over to other areas of society. It can be like a cigarette tax.
To big for one seat, pay for two.
Can't fit in XL clothing or smaller, pay more.
etc.
Larger sizes cost more already, which makes sense, since they require more material.
Taxes, though... taxing one population more than another as a way to affect/punish behavior is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Err, that's why there is a legal/criminal system. The entire basis of American/Western society is founded on affecting behavior through the pocketbook.
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WifeNMama
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April 12, 2012 19:28
My husband is a large man, not obese. He's 6'2", very muscular, so he takes up more space than the average person. I guess he could be charged extra, too. I'm glad he isn't or we would never be able to visit family, expensive enough as it is.
I just wish they would design the seats to be a tad more accomodating. Not everyone is a 12 year old girl.
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GasMasterFlas
Joined 2012-03-21
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April 12, 2012 19:31
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It seems to me that it could be carried over to other areas of society. It can be like a cigarette tax.
To big for one seat, pay for two.
Can't fit in XL clothing or smaller, pay more.
etc.
Larger sizes cost more already, which makes sense, since they require more material.
Taxes, though... taxing one population more than another as a way to affect/punish behavior is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Err, that's why there is a legal/criminal system. The entire basis of American/Western society is founded on affecting behavior through the pocketbook.
Being fat or smoking are criminal, and worthy of fines? Really? Taxation as a punishment is immoral.
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LovingLisa201
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April 12, 2012 19:33
i am a pretty big girl (300 pounds +-)
i feel if you need to take up 2 seats then BUY 2 seats
i flew for the 1st time last April , those seats are small .. luckly i protude forward not sideways
i took the window seat, hubby took the middle and a stranger took the aisle .. we all fit just fine
but had i needed the room, i would have bought it .. no one needs to know you did ( but you will get a placard to reserve the seat next to you) and on southwest (maybe others) if you buy 2 seats but then dont need it, you can request a refund .. i did my research on each airlines seat sizes etc
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Toddrific
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April 12, 2012 19:35
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Taxes, though... taxing one population more than another as a way to affect/punish behavior is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Cigarette taxes are a way of deterring what is deemed an unhealthy behavior.
Seat belt fines are a way of deterring an unhealthy behavior.
Tax breaks for a bajillion things are a way of encouraging wanted behavior.
There are talks already of taxing fast food to deter unhealthy behavior.
etc. etc.
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StatutoryGrap
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April 12, 2012 19:35
I would have to say that if you're going to use two seats, you should have to pay for two seats.
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rc630
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April 12, 2012 19:37
If you are using more than one seat, you should pay for more than one.
If I go to a restaurant and buy a sandwich, and that sandwich doesn't fill me up and I need another one, I would pay for another sandwich. Not having to pay extra if you are taking up someone else's seat would be like if in the restaurant situation, they allowed me to eat some of another customer's sandwich until I am full. If there is room on the plane and nobody has to sit next to the person taking up multiple seats, then it would not be right to ask them to pay, but just about every flight I have been on lately has been filled except for maybe one or two seats without passengers.
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GasMasterFlas
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April 12, 2012 19:40
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Cigarette taxes are a way of deterring what is deemed an unhealthy behavior.
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There are talks already of taxing fast food to deter unhealthy behavior.
By this token, they should also be taxing fast food and candy bars. If they are going to legislate everything we do that affects our health, will they mandate that we have to eat our veggies too? Will I go to jail if I don't finish my broccoli? Where do you draw the line. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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The justification here is that we're using public roads, owned by the gov't.
If you want a nanny state, head to Europe. The United States was founded on freedom of the individual, and it's important that we keep it that way.
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Ready2Rock206
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April 12, 2012 19:44
Buy two seats! I don't want to share my seat with you! I shouldn't have to suffer because you're in denial about your size.
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412HeavyLifte
Joined 2012-02-26
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April 12, 2012 19:48
Its business nothing personal. If you occupy 2 seats then of course you should pay. Just like those who choose to suck on cancer sticks(cigarettes) all day should pay more in healthcare and higher cigarette tax.
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KatiD83
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April 12, 2012 19:52
When I got to the point where I needed 2 seats.....I stopped flying!
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mamamc03
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April 12, 2012 19:53
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If someone is taking use of two seats, then yes they should pay for the use of two seats. Simple as that.
If you're "offended" because the airline is "bringing your obesity to attention", uh then change that & lose some damn weight.
Wow you're a nasty person. :)
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GasMasterFlas
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April 12, 2012 19:53
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Its business nothing personal. If you occupy 2 seats then of course you should pay. Just like those who choose to suck on cancer sticks(cigarettes) all day should pay more in healthcare and higher cigarette tax.
Why the tax, though?
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mamamc03
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April 12, 2012 19:55
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Its business nothing personal. If you occupy 2 seats then of course you should pay. Just like those who choose to suck on cancer sticks(cigarettes) all day should pay more in healthcare and higher cigarette tax.
Ok...so EVRYONE chooses to be fat??? Really?? I guess fat people have extra money laying around in their cheeseburger stash. It's people like this that cause suicide in obese people!! You are judgmental, rude & inconsiderate.
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BondBomb
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April 12, 2012 19:57
I fly very often for work. It's already miserable and uncomfortable on those flights. If a really large person sits next to me to the point where I am losing the space that I paid for it is not fair.i sat next to a very nice man on a flight that really needed two seats. He was very apologetic and I really felt for him. At the same time I literally could not move. I didn't get up to use the bathroom because honestly I didn't want to embarrass him further. It's a tough situation but we all need to own up to who and what we are.
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GasMasterFlas
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April 12, 2012 20:00
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Ok...so EVRYONE chooses to be fat??? Really??
Whether they choose to be obese or not, it's only fair that someone pay for the 2nd seat if their body overflows into it. Please explain how that would not be fair.
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