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April 6, 2012 1:53 PM
Also, I think it really depends on your definition of "flat". I think everyone's is different to a certain extent.
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April 6, 2012 2:01 PM
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You can get a flat belly (no exercise involved). I got my belly flat not by exercise but by ditching grains/flour/legume/sugars/processed food. Exercise just helped my shape a bit. And moderate exercise is just good for the body. The human body is designed for movement. But body composition is mostly about your diet. Genetics and exercise cover the rest.

If you are skinny but have a "pot belly" - that is called "skinny fat". That's what happens when you lose weight my losing lean muscle mass. And huge amounts of cardio will do more for eating into muslce mass than fat mass. Especially when you aren't that overweight to start with.

The belly is from grains/flours/sugars/high PUFA vegetable-seed oils and processed edible food-like substances. (i.e. about 90% of the grocery store).


"If it takes multiple layers of brightly-colored packaging and a $multi-million, multi-media ad campaign to sell it, it’s not food. No one has to put meat or eggs in a brightly colored box with a cartoon character on it.

"Eat what you can pick, dig or spear. Mostly spear. LIve in Freedom, live in beauty."
---http://www.gnolls.org/2074/why-snack-food-is-addictive-the-grand-unified-theory-of-snack-appeal/

EDIT: I eat lots of fat. Mainly saturated fats. I get my fat through pastured butter, coconut oil, olive/avocado oil, eggs (have four today!!) meat - mostly red meat but I buy lean and add fat (all the bad crap they are fed ends up in their fat). I love Hormel's All Natural Uncured bacon!! Hoping to one day get my hands on some pastured meats. All veggies are cooked in butter and/or bacon fat. My occasional berries have either coconut cream (unshaken can of coconut milk) or full fat greek yogurt on them. Fat is the main part of what I eat each day. This is what got my stomach flat.


People, don't be so harsh with hpsnickers1.

He is actually making sense.

A flat stomach is a mix of many things.

1) A good posture. Many people just need to fix their pelvic tilt by streching their hip flexors to finally see their abs

2) Genetics. They play SOME part in where you store fat the easiest and how good you tolerate extra carbs. They aren't the end of it all though, so don't use genetics as an excuse.

3) Body fat. OF COURSE. This varies a lot from person to person. Some men may see their abs at 12%, while some won't see a defined six pack until they achieve a lower fat %.

4) Muscle. Giving some volume to your abs will help you get that "flat belly" look once your fat % gets lower

5) FOOD. This one is critical, and is the reason that some people will never achieve a flat belly.

Food allergies and intolerance : dairy, gluten, cereals, legumes, eggs for some people, etc. Whatever your food intolerances are, ignoring them will screw up your digestive system and give you that bloated look.

6) Hormones. If your cortisol (stress hormone) is high, you will store belly fat, even if the rest of your body is very lean.

Good sleep, exercise, healthy eating, sun exposure, and almost every lifestyle habit out there will change your cortisol.

Also, avoiding phytestrogens (chemicals that mimic estrogen in your body) may help you balance your hormones.
That means no:
- birth pills
- drinking or eating out of plastic
- non-fermented soy products
- air, water and food pollutants (pesticides, herbicides, chlorine, fluoride, etc.)

That's a lot of stuff, I know.

If you can get a flat belly by counting calories, fine.

If you can't, maybe you need to check for other problems that may be in your way.


Nick
Nutrition and Weight loss coach
April 6, 2012 2:14 PM
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With everyone's comments, i think we just proved that everyone is different. But let me tell you my pet peeve, and my hubby falls into this category: Don't exercise, eats whatever, and has a six pack. A lot of African american men fall into this category.


Omg my husband too! And he's not even skinny. It's not fair.
April 6, 2012 2:21 PM
Awesome responses everyone! Thank you.

I have 2 younger sisters. They both eat junk food frequently, are slim and don't exercise AT ALL. They were a little heavier a few times in the past but managed to lose the weight through cutting back on junk food until they were back to their normal weight. They have a FLAT stomach. And here I am, eating healthy, avoiding sweets, busting my ass working out for 60 minutes everyday and my tummy is no way near anything flat. It's really annoying. Maybe I have messed up hormones or my constipation issue might be the underlying cause. What do you think? Orr it could always be genetic.

Here's my flat stomach goal: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-n2RdPf_rAGQ/TwvFu15mDjI/AAAAAAAAATo/GiJsHGfGfT8/s1600/4906371397_a56ba27eba.jpg
April 6, 2012 2:51 PM
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I've done Insanity twice through. It promises you'll be cut in 60 days. After 120 days I still have a tummy :(

My arms are well toned, I must say and I am toned all over but I have to suck my tummy in when I'm out and about. If I forget, people ask if I'm pregnant :( :(


this used to be me but then i realized it was a posture issue more than anything else!! so I'm sure this is the case for you too :) just work on straightening out your back and such and it will make the world of difference
April 6, 2012 2:53 PM
false.
i have an iron.
be right over.
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April 6, 2012 3:00 PM
Look at my ticker and there is your answer :) I eat all sorts of stuff too and still have these little abs :)
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April 6, 2012 3:05 PM
Everyones capable of looking fantastic.

Approximately 92% of people simply don't work hard enough (yes i just made this number up), or try and blame poor results on something other than themselves.


Quit pondering, start moving, running, lifting, whatever.

And get a big long stick, cause you're gonna need it to beat everyone off you, when they're tryin to lick your abs clean.


Do work, son.





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April 6, 2012 11:57 PM
Right! I've reserved my weighted medicine ball and will be picking it up once the store is open. It better work lol
April 7, 2012 1:35 AM
Regardless If you answer true or false guys please dont let genetics be your excuse!!
April 7, 2012 1:37 AM
Eating clean did it for me. I barely do ANY ab exercises. Maybe 2 times a week tops and then it's nothing intense.
April 7, 2012 1:38 AM
Love my Tummy Tuck results!! Jus sayin'...

BUT.

The trick is KEEPING IT THAT WAY. That's much harder than the surgery. Believe me. Lots of hard work. Proper diet.
  8782296
April 7, 2012 1:41 AM
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So is it true that not everyone can achieve a flat stomach unless they restrict their diet extremely, by extreme I mean only steamed veggies, low GI fruits, steamed chicken etc?


No. Not true in that sense. Calorie deficit and training over time will reduce fat and develop one's physique. Some people may have a hard or impossible time achieving visible abs. But that is due to genetics; not due to extremely stupid dieting.
April 7, 2012 1:46 AM
Lifetime of training, boy and man, not yet, but I am trying still... ask me another 10 years, wink
April 7, 2012 2:31 AM
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false.
i have an iron.
be right over.


^^ Yes!
Bring it over here lol.
  18589406
April 7, 2012 6:17 AM
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Regardless If you answer true or false guys please dont let genetics be your excuse!!

Genetics isn't an excuse, it's reality. People who are genetically disposed to carry their essential fat on their stomach will never have a truly flat stomach, or visible abs. That's roughly 10% of the population. Seeing as essential fat is essential for a reason, those people are genetically unable to get there, without causing severe health issues.
April 7, 2012 6:21 AM
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Genetics isn't an excuse, it's reality. People who are genetically disposed to carry their essential fat on their stomach will never have a truly flat stomach, or visible abs. That's roughly 10% of the population. Seeing as essential fat is essential for a reason, those people are genetically unable to get there, without causing severe health issues.


So I've just wasted my money buying a weighted medicine ball for my tummy workouts. Pah!!! My mother's got a big belly lol
April 7, 2012 6:47 AM
what if you have belly fat and still have a flat stomach?

let me rephrase...what if you have a "soft" belly but its still flat?

are people who are genetically "supposed" to have flat stomachs always going to have them, even when they don't work on it?
April 7, 2012 10:16 AM
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Regardless If you answer true or false guys please dont let genetics be your excuse!!

Genetics isn't an excuse, it's reality. People who are genetically disposed to carry their essential fat on their stomach will never have a truly flat stomach, or visible abs. That's roughly 10% of the population. Seeing as essential fat is essential for a reason, those people are genetically unable to get there, without causing severe health issues.
No its not! I had a pouch in grade school even though I was skinny as a rail. And because of that I didnt believe I could have a flat stomach but decided to give it a try anyway. And If I let genetics be an excuse I wouldnt have gotten one.
In my experience people always believe that they have worse genetics than they actually do, but never put in the work or the time to find out what their true genetic potential really is.
Edited by Ripken818836701 On April 7, 2012 10:24 AM
April 7, 2012 10:19 AM
I think it may be true for some people, such as those with apple-shaped bodies. They tend to carry their fat in their stomach, so it'd be harder for them to achieve a flat stomach compared to, say, an hourglass body. I'm not an expert on things like this though so don't take my word for it :p
April 7, 2012 11:51 AM
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Regardless If you answer true or false guys please dont let genetics be your excuse!!

Genetics isn't an excuse, it's reality. People who are genetically disposed to carry their essential fat on their stomach will never have a truly flat stomach, or visible abs. That's roughly 10% of the population. Seeing as essential fat is essential for a reason, those people are genetically unable to get there, without causing severe health issues.
No its not! I had a pouch in grade school even though I was skinny as a rail. And because of that I didnt believe I could have a flat stomach but decided to give it a try anyway. And If I let genetics be an excuse I wouldnt have gotten one.
In my experience people always believe that they have worse genetics than they actually do, but never put in the work or the time to find out what their true genetic potential really is.

Just because you aren't part of that 10%, doesn't mean they don't exist. n=1 does not equal reality, it only equals your personal experience.
April 7, 2012 12:08 PM
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Regardless If you answer true or false guys please dont let genetics be your excuse!!

Genetics isn't an excuse, it's reality. People who are genetically disposed to carry their essential fat on their stomach will never have a truly flat stomach, or visible abs. That's roughly 10% of the population. Seeing as essential fat is essential for a reason, those people are genetically unable to get there, without causing severe health issues.
No its not! I had a pouch in grade school even though I was skinny as a rail. And because of that I didnt believe I could have a flat stomach but decided to give it a try anyway. And If I let genetics be an excuse I wouldnt have gotten one.
In my experience people always believe that they have worse genetics than they actually do, but never put in the work or the time to find out what their true genetic potential really is.

Just because you aren't part of that 10%, doesn't mean they don't exist. n=1 does not equal reality, it only equals your personal experience.
Yes but alot more than 10% of the people that commented on this thread answered true ( thats why I said dont let genetics be an excuse). If 9 out of 10 people can acheive a flat stomach its defiantely worth the effort, after all no one knows what their genetic potential is until they actually try to acheive it.
April 7, 2012 12:19 PM
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Ahh thank you everyone for the replies. I think I'll just live with it and try to keep eating clean (a little fun once or twice a month) and strength train. Maybe one day I'll get my dream stomach.

When I weighed 110 pounds @ 5'6, I still had a belly. It was soooo discouraging. I was literally depressed about it. I guess I have to take things slowly and hope for the best.

Thanks again guys.

hpsnickers1 what do you generally eat on everyday basis?


Okay, did everyone miss this? You are 5'6" and when you weighed "only" 110 lbs you were discouraged. How much do you weigh now? Maybe I misunderstood - are you trying to lose weight or gain weight? Not trying to be rude but at 5'7" for myself an average weight range at your age would be about 135 pounds. Your height, your age, small frame would be about 118 lbs, or 130 on a med frame.
April 7, 2012 12:23 PM
My response:

You'll NEVER know unless you commit. Most people don't really commit to trying to get it.

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April 7, 2012 12:24 PM
Let's try not to demotivate people by telling them what they cannot achieve without even having seen them before. If we were talking about attempting to fly by jumping off the empire state building, that would be one thing.
Edited by jg627 On April 7, 2012 12:31 PM
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