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April 5, 2012 5:10 AM
Right...so. What I really want to know is whether anyone is losing by eating all their FitBit calories...

I have my MFP set up to sedentary and lose 0.5 per week and my FitBit the same loss rate. This sets me at a calorie level of around 1360 to net per day.

I regularly get between 200 and 800 in Fitbit adjustments, depending on whether I walk home from work, go for a run etc. I am eating the majority back but not always all.

Is anyone regularly losing by eating back their full adjustment?
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April 5, 2012 5:16 AM
Also, if I exercise 3-5 times a week should i move MFP to lightly active? If there is still a fitbit adjustment do I still get to eat those calories?
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April 5, 2012 5:29 AM
If you exercise 3-5 I would definitely change your activity level. As far as eating back the adjustment, I personally do not, but I have my activity level set to "very active" in order to get the correct maintenance, and I just don't think I need any more adjustments.

One thing I have seen recommended is to keep your level at "sedentary" even if you are working out and eat all calories back.
Edited by Meggles63 On April 5, 2012 5:33 AM
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April 5, 2012 5:48 AM
As long as you are eating less than you burn you should lose. So you need to eat 250 cals less than you're actutually burning.

I am losing at the rate they say in my premium report. So last week it said I was burning on average 754 calories more per day than I ate and I lost 2lbs exact.
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April 5, 2012 10:28 AM
Are you logging exercise or letting it be included in your adjustments? If you are always seeing that adjustment or at least 6 out of 7 days, I think I would try the next activity level up. At lightly active, you should see a smaller adjustment, it may increase your net allowance (unless you have a very low bmr). I tend to eat most of my adjustment. I basically just try to burn x more than I eat 6 days a week and one day I try to eat around what I burn (kind of like the cheat days some people do with the idea it may keep them focused and keep their metabolism from slowing). You should have your desired deficit if you eat your adjustment, but since it is a fairly small adjustment you might do fine eating a little less than your adjustment. If you do raise your level, just watch to see that you have a small adjustment most days. If I don't see one appearing by evening, I'll pace, march in place, jog in place, jump rope, whatever I have the energy or in the evening while watching television. (Assuming the connection is working), If you see even a tiny adjustment you know you burned at least lightly active level calories. From what you describe, you are more active than sedentary. I don't think sedentary includes walking to work, for example. It is really just the days where you would see a 200 adjustment that may be a little low (or they may be perfect, you just don't know as it doesn't tell you if you are under).

Sorry, it is kind of confusing as different things work for different people and sometimes it just helps to try something different for a week or two if your loss has stalled.

But really is mainly about eating less than you burn, but not too much less.
April 6, 2012 7:26 AM
KIm I am so confused about this adjustment also. I have mfp on lightly active Where do I set my fitbit activity? I usually walk for exercise and I am not logging that on mfp but I am getting 800 or more adjustment calories. I really thought I had this figured out but it is clear as mud to me I am confused. I have been eating about 1/2 my exercise calories.
Edited by samf36 On April 6, 2012 7:29 AM
April 6, 2012 10:12 AM
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KIm I am so confused about this adjustment also. I have mfp on lightly active Where do I set my fitbit activity? I usually walk for exercise and I am not logging that on mfp but I am getting 800 or more adjustment calories. I really thought I had this figured out but it is clear as mud to me I am confused. I have been eating about 1/2 my exercise calories.


Perhaps you are more active than lightly active. In your case your exercise is included in your base activity level and adjustment since you are not logging workouts. So all your activity seems to be totaling more than lightly active. About how many steps are you typically doing?
April 6, 2012 11:10 AM
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KIm I am so confused about this adjustment also. I have mfp on lightly active Where do I set my fitbit activity? I usually walk for exercise and I am not logging that on mfp but I am getting 800 or more adjustment calories. I really thought I had this figured out but it is clear as mud to me I am confused. I have been eating about 1/2 my exercise calories.


Perhaps you are more active than lightly active. In your case your exercise is included in your base activity level and adjustment since you are not logging workouts. So all your activity seems to be totaling more than lightly active. About how many steps are you typically doing?


15 to 20 thousand a day with no problem.
I used to log exercise before I got my fitbit but i was able to get to the gym but now I am just walking more because my work schedule changed. I have removed my exercise goal from mfp cause I thought it gave me extra calories and I didn't want that.
Like I said I am just confused. I know this past week I have not netted enough calories and I need to correct that. Walk less or eat more?
Also what do the calories burned mean on the fitbit site.
Edited by samf36 On April 6, 2012 11:19 AM
April 6, 2012 1:04 PM
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As long as you are eating less than you burn you should lose. So you need to eat 250 cals less than you're actutually burning.

I am losing at the rate they say in my premium report. So last week it said I was burning on average 754 calories more per day than I ate and I lost 2lbs exact.


Keep in mind that most of us already have a 500 or 1000 Calorie deficit built in by MFP...
April 6, 2012 2:17 PM
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15 to 20 thousand a day with no problem.
I used to log exercise before I got my fitbit but i was able to get to the gym but now I am just walking more because my work schedule changed. I have removed my exercise goal from mfp cause I thought it gave me extra calories and I didn't want that.
Like I said I am just confused. I know this past week I have not netted enough calories and I need to correct that. Walk less or eat more?
Also what do the calories burned mean on the fitbit site.


15-20k no problem is more active than "lightly active". It isn't just the number of steps but the pace and intensity of them, but still. You should be fine going one level higher, maybe two. I'd try just one for a week or so to be safe though. Since they don't tell you if you fall short or are perfect, so ideally you should see some adjustment most days. I won't say walk less as it is really impressive and you said it was your main source of exercise. I set my exercise goal to zero as well, I don't think it makes a difference as near as I can see.

The calories burned on fitbit... Like mfp they use a estimate of your bmr based on your height, weight, gender, age. They also estimate your activity calories based on your movement and anything you may log. The movement calories, I don't know their formula but it involves minute-by-minute how many "steps" you take, how fast or slow those steps are, they say the intensity which seems to involve impact of the steps but I don't know what else. So there are other factors beside total steps. Notice your pie chart with how many minutes are at each activity level? Since you are not logging activity, that might give you some clue as it has divided your day into minutes spend in the different activity levels.

Yes as LordBezour says, our deficit is already included so in theory we should be able to eat all of our activity calories. But since the bmr and activity burn are estimates based on averages, we may have a higher or lower metabolism than the estimate. Also it relies on us being accurate in what we track so there is some margin of error. There seem to be a lot of different experiences and opinions about eating activity calories. It may also depend a little on how much we have to lose and how long we have been dieting already.
April 6, 2012 4:30 PM
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15 to 20 thousand a day with no problem.
I used to log exercise before I got my fitbit but i was able to get to the gym but now I am just walking more because my work schedule changed. I have removed my exercise goal from mfp cause I thought it gave me extra calories and I didn't want that.
Like I said I am just confused. I know this past week I have not netted enough calories and I need to correct that. Walk less or eat more?
Also what do the calories burned mean on the fitbit site.


15-20k no problem is more active than "lightly active". It isn't just the number of steps but the pace and intensity of them, but still. You should be fine going one level higher, maybe two. I'd try just one for a week or so to be safe though. Since they don't tell you if you fall short or are perfect, so ideally you should see some adjustment most days. I won't say walk less as it is really impressive and you said it was your main source of exercise. I set my exercise goal to zero as well, I don't think it makes a difference as near as I can see.

The calories burned on fitbit... Like mfp they use a estimate of your bmr based on your height, weight, gender, age. They also estimate your activity calories based on your movement and anything you may log. The movement calories, I don't know their formula but it involves minute-by-minute how many "steps" you take, how fast or slow those steps are, they say the intensity which seems to involve impact of the steps but I don't know what else. So there are other factors beside total steps. Notice your pie chart with how many minutes are at each activity level? Since you are not logging activity, that might give you some clue as it has divided your day into minutes spend in the different activity levels.

Yes as LordBezour says, our deficit is already included so in theory we should be able to eat all of our activity calories. But since the bmr and activity burn are estimates based on averages, we may have a higher or lower metabolism than the estimate. Also it relies on us being accurate in what we track so there is some margin of error. There seem to be a lot of different experiences and opinions about eating activity calories. It may also depend a little on how much we have to lose and how long we have been dieting already.


Thanks for your reply. I think I understand a little better now I am a very fast walker and it is very hilly in my town ( just got my 500 steps badge and only had fb since 3/21) I do child care in my home so I am really jumping , running, dancing or carrying someone or something all day. I maybe will go up one level starting on sunday. Just got back from a 3 mile stroll in a 30 mile head wind little wore out lol.

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