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March 13, 2012 6:06 PM
Is anyone else doing the doctor supervised Ideal Protein Protocol? I discovered it through a friend of mine and decided to do it for other health reasons than weight loss although the weight loss is a fabulous side effect! My main reason was to "rest" my pancreas as my glucose numbers kept coming back borderline diabetic, and my triglycerides and cholesterol numbers were abhorant for the past couple years. I began the program on January 2nd and have realized my goals of MUCH lower numbers on all accounts! Since my 52nd birthday in November, I have lost a total of 24 pounds - yay me! Anyone else using this program? I want to hear your story. Thanks for your time.
March 13, 2012 6:29 PM
I haven't done it but would like to hear about it. please explain what and how it works. thanks
March 14, 2012 11:01 AM
Great to hear about your numbers.. I've been a health coach for years and have now incorporated Ideal Protein into my practice. My patients health issues have cleared up plus the added bonus of losing weight.It's a wonderful program. I lost 30 pounds in 8 weeks and have never felt better. I have chronic IBS, it's totally cleared up. Any questions, drop me a line.. Congratulations. Keep up the good work.. Dr. L
March 14, 2012 11:05 AM
My wife did a protein sparing modified fast, had fantastic results. This type of diet would be considered too edgy by folks around here.
March 14, 2012 11:07 AM
I am! Started on January 10th, and I am down 35lbs so far! Have a look at my pictures :)

I love it! Super easy, and the results are AWESOME. Don't let the prices back you down!
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March 14, 2012 11:10 AM
Should be ideal protein lifestyle.
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March 14, 2012 11:12 AM
Once of my coworkers is doing it, she's about my age.
She's allowed like 1000 calories a day.
She has 3 of their meals a day, 2 cups of veggies with lunch, and two cups of veggies with dinner.
She gets breakfast, lunch, dinner, and a snack. She also has to have 6-8oz of some protein for whichever meal she isn't eating of theirs.
8 glasses of water, a bunch of veggies are banned, only so much coffee allowed a day. She can have some skim milk in her coffee.
And she used to do a 2 mile walk twice a week with me and some other women here. They yelled at her for it. She's not allowed to exercise on this diet.
She goes in every week to get weighed, measured, etc.
And she says it's wicked expensive.
March 14, 2012 11:13 AM
I have done some research, as I had never heard of Ideal Protein Diet.
http://www.idealprotein.com/us/customers-first

So it is a Product Trademark, and they sell you food.

Hmmm.... not really what I would want to do.

Why do we need some company to sell us food we can obtain at the store for much lower prices? huh
Edited by ElPumaMex On March 14, 2012 11:16 AM
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March 14, 2012 11:15 AM
Am not on program, but I was just looking it up after this post. Take a look at this site.

http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Ideal_Protein_Diet
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March 14, 2012 11:15 AM
Every time I see "protein diet" or "how can I get more protein" or anything protein related I giggle. I know, I'm 12. Plus with this being MFP, I giggle a LOT.
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March 14, 2012 11:15 AM
I am coaching people that are transitioning into maintenance off the Ideal Protein Program.

It has too much soy for me since I have thyroid issues.
March 14, 2012 11:21 AM
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I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"


Actually it is the best advice for people eating ultra low calorie diets. This is why 90% of the people cant lose weight on this site eating their 1200 calories and exercising 5-6 times a week. You either take a moderate deficit approach and move, or take a large deficit approach and dont move. You cannot succeed on alot of activitity and ultra low calories.
Edited by Phrak On March 14, 2012 11:22 AM
March 14, 2012 11:26 AM
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I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"


Actually it is the best advice for people eating ultra low calorie diets. This is why 90% of the people cant lose weight on this site eating their 1200 calories and exercising 5-6 times a week. You either take a moderate deficit approach and move, or take a large deficit approach and dont move. You cannot succeed on alot of activitity and ultra low calories.


No exercise allowed ! Wow huh

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program
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March 14, 2012 11:32 AM
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I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"


Actually it is the best advice for people eating ultra low calorie diets. This is why 90% of the people cant lose weight on this site eating their 1200 calories and exercising 5-6 times a week. You either take a moderate deficit approach and move, or take a large deficit approach and dont move. You cannot succeed on alot of activitity and ultra low calories.


No exercise allowed ! Wow huh

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program


Because they dont work with net calories, your program is 1000 a day. Phase 1 of the diet is purely a crash diet. Phase 2 slowly brings up the calories and allows for exercise.
March 14, 2012 11:36 AM
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Every time I see "protein diet" or "how can I get more protein" or anything protein related I giggle. I know, I'm 12. Plus with this being MFP, I giggle a LOT.


laugh laugh laugh laugh I'll join you in 6th grade, and giggle too!
March 14, 2012 11:39 AM
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No exercise allowed ! Wow huh

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program


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Because they dont work with net calories, your program is 1000 a day. Phase 1 of the diet is purely a crash diet. Phase 2 slowly brings up the calories and allows for exercise.


And why can't they have the same crash phase 1, by using net cals to 1000?
And why is 1000 a magical number? Is it the same number no matter if male, female, small or large?
Really, it does not sound as anything that I would do.

But if it works for some of you, well I can't try to convince you of not using it.
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March 14, 2012 11:45 AM
hello

ideal protein is great if you want to loose weight fast. not so great if you want long term weight loss maintainence and a healthier you. ive had a friend do it, talked to my doctor and pharmacist about it and i in the health care field as well. my friend lost a lot of weight, but i was with her while she was doing this, her life was hell.at one point she was only consuming 800cals a day, how bad is that? you pretty much put your body into ketosis, which you know is a bad thing... especially for diabetics... so you can loose some weight. my doctor said stay the heck away and my pharmacist couldn't even believe it was a product. but this is just my opinion based on research and professional judgement...many other people may think different. it was used by a doctor once, so he obviously thought it was ok. but yes, i think that if you can stay away do so, save yourself the time,money and grief and just diet and excersise.
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March 14, 2012 11:45 AM
i know someone who has lost over 40lbs on this diet.. she looks fantastic... and she just started adding more protein and carbs so she can go to the gym 6 days a week now!
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March 14, 2012 11:49 AM
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No exercise allowed ! Wow huh

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program


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Because they dont work with net calories, your program is 1000 a day. Phase 1 of the diet is purely a crash diet. Phase 2 slowly brings up the calories and allows for exercise.


And why can't they have the same crash phase 1, by using net cals to 1000?
And why is 1000 a magical number? Is it the same number no matter if male, female, small or large?
Really, it does not sound as anything that I would do.

But if it works for some of you, well I can't try to convince you of not using it.


Becuase they do not tell you to count calories. They say have 1 of the green box items, 2 of the puddings, and a serving of a certain tab in the cook book.

Plus "eating back calories" is not something i would adivse, you cant accurately calculate these calories. HRM are only good for steady state cardio and are still inaccurate.
March 14, 2012 12:01 PM
After being on this site for a while I have concluded that we each have to find what works for ourselves because what works for one does not work for another. Three years ago I went on a 1400 calorie/day diet and vigorious exercise 6x/week and it took me a year to lose ~30 lbs. (I was 51 at the time.) I swore I would never gain weight again because the process of losing it was frustrating, not to mention boring. It was easier to quit smoking!

Needless to say, I gained the weight back. After talking to my doctor and a nutritionist, and conducting research including finding Dr. Oz's comments on one of his shows, I went on the HCG diet early January and I lost ~27 lbs. by Feb 15. The diet is very rigid and very low cal, 500 calories, and I followed it exactly. I'm on the 2nd 3 weeks, the last phase, and I feel wonderful and look better. I suffer from multiple GI issues, including colitis. I have eliminated 1 medication and reduced another by half for my gastritis. I am eating most types of foods now and if I don't eat processed food or too many nuts my colitis is not as severe. I was able to walk throughout the diet, including walking 18 holes of golf.

For me, I think HCG acted as toxin elimination as well as changed my mindset on how to choose foods without giving up flavor, variety and the occassional treats. Happy days for mehappy
March 14, 2012 12:06 PM
Nooooooo!

Good luck with your weight loss goals, but the HCG diet is not a safe way to jump start the process.

The only reason people lose weight on that plan is you are only allowed to eat 500 calories a day. HCG has been scientifically proven to do NOTHING to help with weight loss or to make it safe to eat only 500 calories a day. It will not protect muscle, reset your metabolism or do anything else the snake oil salesmen that sell it claim. Dr. Simeons was a quack doctor. His "HCG protocol" has absolutely NO scientific backing and is not worth risking your health on.

The HCG diet has been studied by many scientific organizations, and they all concluded that HCG, even the "real" injectable version, is no more effective than a placebo, and eating only 500 calories a day for weeks, as recommended by that plan, can cause more health problems than it solves.

The MFP moderators have been cautioning members against attempting that diet because it is so dangerous.

Please read the articles on these websites before you try HCG. I know some people that put their faith in the HCG diet, and became very ill from malnutrition as a result. Then they regained more weight than they lost. Now they wish they never heard of HCG.

The Government is now in the process of getting all that fraudulent stuff off the market, and it's about time!

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm281333.htm

http://www.myhealthnewsdaily.com/hcg-diet-dangerous-1428

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hcg-diet/AN02091

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/truth-about-hcg-for-weight-loss

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/weight-loss-cure-dont-want-you-to-know

http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml

http://www.tucsonmedical.com/pages/hcg.php
March 14, 2012 12:14 PM
I am not promoting the diet. I'm saying it worked for me. I am eating ~1700 cals/day now and doing/feeling great!
March 14, 2012 12:19 PM
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March 14, 2012 12:22 PM
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I am not promoting the diet. I'm saying it worked for me. I am eating ~1700 cals/day now and doing/feeling great!


You lost weight because you ate at a starvation level for weeks.

The HCG diet is a PROVEN SCAM! It does NOTHING for weight loss!

It's too bad the FDA didn't get that stuff off the market YEARS ago!
March 14, 2012 12:24 PM
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I am not promoting the diet. I'm saying it worked for me. I am eating ~1700 cals/day now and doing/feeling great!


You lost weight because you ate at a starvation level for weeks.

The HCG diet is a PROVEN SCAM! It does NOTHING for weight loss!

It's too bad the FDA didn't get that stuff off the market YEARS ago!


Just shows you how strong a placebo effect can be. You have to inject HCG to get any benefits, ingesting the drops does zero. But the body will beleive what the mind tells it.

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