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March 10, 2012 7:29 AM
Has anyone tried to go on the CHIP diet or did the 7 day jump start cleanse? I want to know how it worked or works for you.

It is called the Optimal Diet. CHIP stands for Coronary Health Improvement Project. Except for the Jumpstart cleansing thing it is isn't really a diet it's just a program set up to teach you how to eat and live for maximum health and well-being on a permanent basis.

During the cleanse you are eating as much as you want of whole grains, fruits and veggies without salt, oils butter and stuff.

go here for more info http://www.chiphealth.com/
Edited by mrsepiphany On March 10, 2012 7:51 AM
  17216134
March 10, 2012 7:32 AM
I've never done a "cleanse" of any kind because my doc said they are all bad. it's like giving yourself food poisoning for a week (or however long it lasts). it's not good for you GI, you'll lose good bacteria. You'll gain most of the initial "loss" back because it's mostly water (you'll get dehydrated).
Just go with the sensible eating, additional exercise plan. I know a quick boost is tempting, but not worth the potential problems.

:-)
  8454448
March 10, 2012 7:34 AM
I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!
  228500
March 10, 2012 7:51 AM
I edited it with details
  17216134
March 10, 2012 7:52 AM
QUOTE:

I've never done a "cleanse" of any kind because my doc said they are all bad. it's like giving yourself food poisoning for a week (or however long it lasts). it's not good for you GI, you'll lose good bacteria. You'll gain most of the initial "loss" back because it's mostly water (you'll get dehydrated).
Just go with the sensible eating, additional exercise plan. I know a quick boost is tempting, but not worth the potential problems.

:-)


Thanks. I already know that but this cleanse consists of eating natural foods like whole grains, veggies and fruits verses drinking salt water or the lemonade thing.
  17216134
March 10, 2012 7:56 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I've never done a "cleanse" of any kind because my doc said they are all bad. it's like giving yourself food poisoning for a week (or however long it lasts). it's not good for you GI, you'll lose good bacteria. You'll gain most of the initial "loss" back because it's mostly water (you'll get dehydrated).
Just go with the sensible eating, additional exercise plan. I know a quick boost is tempting, but not worth the potential problems.

:-)


Thanks. I already know that but this cleanse consists of eating natural foods like whole grains, veggies and fruits verses drinking salt water or the lemonade thing.



And where's your protein??
Edited by BeautyFromPain On March 10, 2012 7:57 AM
March 10, 2012 7:58 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I've never done a "cleanse" of any kind because my doc said they are all bad. it's like giving yourself food poisoning for a week (or however long it lasts). it's not good for you GI, you'll lose good bacteria. You'll gain most of the initial "loss" back because it's mostly water (you'll get dehydrated).
Just go with the sensible eating, additional exercise plan. I know a quick boost is tempting, but not worth the potential problems.

:-)


Oh i meant to add legumes! It's

Thanks. I already know that but this cleanse consists of eating natural foods like whole grains, veggies and fruits verses drinking salt water or the lemonade thing.



And where's your protein??
  17216134
March 10, 2012 8:00 AM
QUOTE:

I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!


Me Too! I was a set and ready to break out the pringles and go to townbigsmile
March 10, 2012 8:03 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I've never done a "cleanse" of any kind because my doc said they are all bad. it's like giving yourself food poisoning for a week (or however long it lasts). it's not good for you GI, you'll lose good bacteria. You'll gain most of the initial "loss" back because it's mostly water (you'll get dehydrated).
Just go with the sensible eating, additional exercise plan. I know a quick boost is tempting, but not worth the potential problems.

:-)


Thanks. I already know that but this cleanse consists of eating natural foods like whole grains, veggies and fruits verses drinking salt water or the lemonade thing.


ok then. i take it back. sounds ok. dont know anything about it, so i'll bow out.
  8454448
March 10, 2012 8:05 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!


Me Too! I was a set and ready to break out the pringles and go to townbigsmile


Haha me too
  12514253
March 10, 2012 8:07 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!


Me Too! I was a set and ready to break out the pringles and go to townbigsmile


Haha me too


HAHAHA i thought the same thing when my mother in law first mentioned it...
  17216134
March 10, 2012 8:09 AM
QUOTE:

I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!


LOL, I dod too, I was about to break out the pringles and go to town!
March 10, 2012 8:19 AM
Personally I don't belive in any "Cleansing" diet. You body cleanses itself daily, if you well and put good stuff in, your liver and kidneys and other associated organs do just fine in removing the waste.

I am highly skeptical of any fadish diet that wants you to conform to thier menu's and I see that CHIPS even though supposedly endorsed by physicians that wants you to pay for courses, cookbooks and the like. SOME may be legit, but most times it just comes down to separting you from your money. Nutrition and diet information is free, you can ask your own doctor.

Another thing that gets me about these things is that they want you to "cleanse" your body and then possibly drastically alter your eating habits, for minor changes over time work the best. You can do it for a short while, but then I at least am more apt to resume my old habits.

Just eat well and in moderation, exercise and your body will take care of itself.

That's just my two cents, no offense OPsmile
March 10, 2012 8:26 AM
QUOTE:

Personally I don't belive in any "Cleansing" diet. You body cleanses itself daily, if you well and put good stuff in, your liver and kidneys and other associated organs do just fine in removing the waste.

I am highly skeptical of any fadish diet that wants you to conform to thier menu's and I see that CHIPS even though supposedly endorsed by physicians that wants you to pay for courses, cookbooks and the like. SOME may be legit, but most times it just comes down to separting you from your money. Nutrition and diet information is free, you can ask your own doctor.

Another thing that gets me about these things is that they want you to "cleanse" your body and then possibly drastically alter your eating habits, for minor changes over time work the best. You can do it for a short while, but then I at least am more apt to resume my old habits.

Just eat well and in moderation, exercise and your body will take care of itself.

That's just my two cents, no offense OPsmile


Thanks for your input. My church did the program a few years ago and i tried it and cheated acouple of times but still lose weight. You are right though about it changing your eating habits drastically. The ultimate goal of it is becoming vegan/vegetarian and i don't want to do that. Plus i don't spend money to lose weight unless it is on the gym but even then i really don't cuz i can work out without one. So I will just continue eating right without the crazy diets or cleanses. Thanks
  17216134
March 10, 2012 8:50 AM
A friend was on the CHIP program. I can't say for sure but essentially it seemed that it was a vegan low fat diet. Hard for many people to maintain.
March 10, 2012 2:04 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Personally I don't belive in any "Cleansing" diet. You body cleanses itself daily, if you well and put good stuff in, your liver and kidneys and other associated organs do just fine in removing the waste.

I am highly skeptical of any fadish diet that wants you to conform to thier menu's and I see that CHIPS even though supposedly endorsed by physicians that wants you to pay for courses, cookbooks and the like. SOME may be legit, but most times it just comes down to separting you from your money. Nutrition and diet information is free, you can ask your own doctor.

Another thing that gets me about these things is that they want you to "cleanse" your body and then possibly drastically alter your eating habits, for minor changes over time work the best. You can do it for a short while, but then I at least am more apt to resume my old habits.

Just eat well and in moderation, exercise and your body will take care of itself.

That's just my two cents, no offense OPsmile


Thanks for your input. My church did the program a few years ago and i tried it and cheated acouple of times but still lose weight. You are right though about it changing your eating habits drastically. The ultimate goal of it is becoming vegan/vegetarian and i don't want to do that. Plus i don't spend money to lose weight unless it is on the gym but even then i really don't cuz i can work out without one. So I will just continue eating right without the crazy diets or cleanses. Thanks


Wow I am glad you understood where I was going, MFP has got to get a spell checker, a grammar checker....and FOR ME a missed word checkergrumble .... Glad you did get some postives from it though, I'll try better next timebigsmile
Edited by BrienJD On March 10, 2012 2:05 PM
March 23, 2012 3:48 AM
Two of my husband's co-workers are taking the classes and they are seeing marked improvements. Thy both did the 7 day cleanse. One of his coworkers is already thin and fit and yet her numbers all decreased and she has lost 8lb already since January. My husband wants to try the cleanse and then the Optimal Diet. We are not big meat eaters anyway since I struggle to eat steaks and am tired of chicken breast. We also have not had cow's milk in about 7 years. We mess up when we eat ice cream, of course!
December 16, 2012 8:11 AM
My medical school really promotes this diet (OUHCOM), a large number of our physicians/professors use this diet themselves and claim it reversed their diabetes. If you have the will power to eat a vegan diet, I would say go for it!!!
December 16, 2012 8:42 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!


LOL, I dod too, I was about to break out the pringles and go to town!


I thought chip as in chocolate.
January 8, 2013 7:12 PM
QUOTE:

Personally I don't belive in any "Cleansing" diet. You body cleanses itself daily, if you well and put good stuff in, your liver and kidneys and other associated organs do just fine in removing the waste.

I am highly skeptical of any fadish diet that wants you to conform to thier menu's and I see that CHIPS even though supposedly endorsed by physicians that wants you to pay for courses, cookbooks and the like. SOME may be legit, but most times it just comes down to separting you from your money. Nutrition and diet information is free, you can ask your own doctor.

Another thing that gets me about these things is that they want you to "cleanse" your body and then possibly drastically alter your eating habits, for minor changes over time work the best. You can do it for a short while, but then I at least am more apt to resume my old habits.

Just eat well and in moderation, exercise and your body will take care of itself.

That's just my two cents, no offense OPsmile


I know this is an old topic, but I thought I would add to it for anyone who might be interested.

I happen to be quite familiar with the CHIP (Coronary Health Improvement Project) program. I am part of a group which one of our projects has been offering this course to the community twice a year for the last four years. I myself used to be a skeptic, but after seeing the results, I have become a believer in it.

I wanted to address some of your concerns regarding the program. Also, to note, all of my experience is referencing the CHIP program before it's overhaul. The CHIP program was bought by another organization and has been revamped just recently (fall 2012), therefore, we will not be running our first course with the new ownership/structure until this spring.

First, as for the money part, I can assure you that the CHIP program is not out to make money off of you (At least up until now. That may be changing.) The cost we charged participants for the program was $165/individual and $265 for couples. That may sound like a lot, but about 90% of that cost covered textbooks, lab fees (blood screens are done twice during the program), and four weeks of classes at 4 days a week among other costs. Beyond the initial class fee, there is no cost. Participants are not required to purchase any special food provided by CHIP or even restricted to any special cookbooks. The entire program is based around teaching how to be healthy by eating well. Put in perspective of a "class" and not a "diet," the CHIP fees are relatively inexpensive. (That is changing, much to my dismay, as the new owners have jacked up the costs to nearly $400/person to take the class.)

Second, I can assure you this is not a "fad" diet. In short, the CHIP diet is a whole foods diet which promotes, although does not require, a plant based diet. The primary thing is eating whole foods and avoiding processed foods, added salts, sugars, etc.

The "cleanse" part of the diet is more or less intended to cleanse the pallet as much as cleanse the body of toxins. Sure, your liver does that everyday, but just like you, your liver likes a break. Slow change is good, but a large part of the idea behind the cleanse is that eating healthier will be easier if you can bear the "cleanse" (which really isn't that bad) for a few days. Your taste buds completely regenerate themselves every 10 days, and if you do things like eliminate added salts, sugars, etc through the cleanse, food that may seem bland next to a McDonald's burger and fries have much more appeal, and it makes it easier to make the change. Also, being part of a program makes it much easier for people to support each other and make it through.

Finally, I personally have witnessed the amazing results of this program. It is true that in some cases people have reversed diabetes and other diseases. I have seen cases of people loosing lots of weight and their cholesterol dropping upwards of 50 points during the program. More than one participant just in our small community has been able to completely go off of blood pressure medications (after consulting with their doctor) because of the changes. People who could barely walk without pain are pain free by the end of the program. I know it sounds miraculous, but I have witness these stories firsthand. As to your statement about doctors knowing good health, that is not as true as you think. Doctors have relatively little education on nutrition and preventative health. They are trained to fix problems more than they are to solve them. That is not true for all physicians, and is becoming less true today, but historically, and largely still today, that was/is the case.

Long story short, if you look at CHIP as not so much a "diet" but education for better health, I can assure you it is an amazing program with fabulous results.

As for the "new" CHIP (now called Complete Health Improvement Project), the fundamentals are largely still the same, and those who began the program and still largely involved, but I will have to wait and see if they are still successful in reaching those who really need this program. I am disappointed they have raised the cost for the class so much because unfortunately those who can least afford it are likely those who might need it in many cases.
November 30, 2013 6:57 AM
Eleven years ago my mom did the chip program, she completely changed her eatting habits and made chip her lifestyle. She lost over 80 lbs and has kept off most of it all this time. She is 66 and looks great and feels way way better. I'm adopting this eatting style more and more. All this best in your journey. :)
  52669783
November 30, 2013 7:11 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Personally I don't belive in any "Cleansing" diet. You body cleanses itself daily, if you well and put good stuff in, your liver and kidneys and other associated organs do just fine in removing the waste.

I am highly skeptical of any fadish diet that wants you to conform to thier menu's and I see that CHIPS even though supposedly endorsed by physicians that wants you to pay for courses, cookbooks and the like. SOME may be legit, but most times it just comes down to separting you from your money. Nutrition and diet information is free, you can ask your own doctor.

Another thing that gets me about these things is that they want you to "cleanse" your body and then possibly drastically alter your eating habits, for minor changes over time work the best. You can do it for a short while, but then I at least am more apt to resume my old habits.

Just eat well and in moderation, exercise and your body will take care of itself.

That's just my two cents, no offense OPsmile


I know this is an old topic, but I thought I would add to it for anyone who might be interested.

I happen to be quite familiar with the CHIP (Coronary Health Improvement Project) program. I am part of a group which one of our projects has been offering this course to the community twice a year for the last four years. I myself used to be a skeptic, but after seeing the results, I have become a believer in it.

I wanted to address some of your concerns regarding the program. Also, to note, all of my experience is referencing the CHIP program before it's overhaul. The CHIP program was bought by another organization and has been revamped just recently (fall 2012), therefore, we will not be running our first course with the new ownership/structure until this spring.

First, as for the money part, I can assure you that the CHIP program is not out to make money off of you (At least up until now. That may be changing.) The cost we charged participants for the program was $165/individual and $265 for couples. That may sound like a lot, but about 90% of that cost covered textbooks, lab fees (blood screens are done twice during the program), and four weeks of classes at 4 days a week among other costs. Beyond the initial class fee, there is no cost. Participants are not required to purchase any special food provided by CHIP or even restricted to any special cookbooks. The entire program is based around teaching how to be healthy by eating well. Put in perspective of a "class" and not a "diet," the CHIP fees are relatively inexpensive. (That is changing, much to my dismay, as the new owners have jacked up the costs to nearly $400/person to take the class.)

Second, I can assure you this is not a "fad" diet. In short, the CHIP diet is a whole foods diet which promotes, although does not require, a plant based diet. The primary thing is eating whole foods and avoiding processed foods, added salts, sugars, etc.

The "cleanse" part of the diet is more or less intended to cleanse the pallet as much as cleanse the body of toxins. Sure, your liver does that everyday, but just like you, your liver likes a break. Slow change is good, but a large part of the idea behind the cleanse is that eating healthier will be easier if you can bear the "cleanse" (which really isn't that bad) for a few days. Your taste buds completely regenerate themselves every 10 days, and if you do things like eliminate added salts, sugars, etc through the cleanse, food that may seem bland next to a McDonald's burger and fries have much more appeal, and it makes it easier to make the change. Also, being part of a program makes it much easier for people to support each other and make it through.

Finally, I personally have witnessed the amazing results of this program. It is true that in some cases people have reversed diabetes and other diseases. I have seen cases of people loosing lots of weight and their cholesterol dropping upwards of 50 points during the program. More than one participant just in our small community has been able to completely go off of blood pressure medications (after consulting with their doctor) because of the changes. People who could barely walk without pain are pain free by the end of the program. I know it sounds miraculous, but I have witness these stories firsthand. As to your statement about doctors knowing good health, that is not as true as you think. Doctors have relatively little education on nutrition and preventative health. They are trained to fix problems more than they are to solve them. That is not true for all physicians, and is becoming less true today, but historically, and largely still today, that was/is the case.

Long story short, if you look at CHIP as not so much a "diet" but education for better health, I can assure you it is an amazing program with fabulous results.

As for the "new" CHIP (now called Complete Health Improvement Project), the fundamentals are largely still the same, and those who began the program and still largely involved, but I will have to wait and see if they are still successful in reaching those who really need this program. I am disappointed they have raised the cost for the class so much because unfortunately those who can least afford it are likely those who might need it in many cases.
If a person lives in Hawaii do you think spam would work well into this diet?
November 30, 2013 7:14 AM
Vegetables and fruit have protein. Think of it this way. We get a lot of protein and calcium from cows; all the dairy products and red meat. But what does the cow eat to make all that protein and calcium? All grass. But we as humans can have a wide range of fruits and vegetables and still get all the calcium and protein we need.
When one of the government programs to feed the poor, maybe SNAP, came out with their guidelines, it included all fresh fruit and vegetables except potatoes. The head of the Potato Growers Association decided to make a point and put himself on an all potato diet for about 3 months. He lost something like 60 pounds, dropped his sugar, cholesterol, and blood pressure.
People think that whole grain bread or pasta or even brown rice is healthier than potatoes, but they are wrong,. Potatoes contain the highest level of potassium of any of the fruits or vegetables and plenty of fiber.
I am not advocating vegan diet or potato diet, just making a point that Americans, especially, always sell short plenty of fruits and vegetables in the diet.
Perhaps the best diet is the vegan diet, according to the China Study, but just use dairy and animal in moderation.
Edited by TrishLG On November 30, 2013 7:18 AM
November 30, 2013 7:47 AM
I stopped when I read about cleansing toxins out of your system. This is silly.
November 30, 2013 8:35 PM
Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

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