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November 29, 2011 9:30 AM
has been taken from his mother and placed in foster care. Social services say they worked hard with the mother for 20 months to bring down the boys weight. Anyone want to weigh in?
November 29, 2011 9:32 AM
I really don't understand how an 8 year old child can weigh that much, what was the mother feeding him?? My 8 year old daughter weighs 55 lbs and I would say she is very healthy
Edited by TerraGirl17 On November 29, 2011 9:33 AM
November 29, 2011 9:34 AM
Poor kid! I heard about this. My 8 y/o son weighs about 75 lbs and he is on the chunky side of a growth spurt. I can't imagine how he'd function at 200+ lbs.
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November 29, 2011 9:35 AM
When I saw that story, my first thought was how scared he must be. Feel bad for both the boy and his mom.
November 29, 2011 9:36 AM
I'm assuming he has been tested for all kinds of illnesses to eliminate a medical reason for his weight. Personally, Child Protective Services waited too long, they should have given her 3 months, we all know there can be a change as fast as that. I'm glad he is now under supervised care - this is the best thing to happen to him.
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November 29, 2011 9:38 AM
R u serious!?!? My 3 year old is around 40lbs and with his height the doctor ALWAYS presses the issue that hes 3% overweight, how did they let that poor boy get that big?!

That is disturbing and i agree, child protective services did wait FAR too long.

My heart goes out to that little boy.
November 29, 2011 9:42 AM
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Cant imagine a 8 year old that weighs as much as I do .. WOW... my 7 year old is 60 lbs soaking wet...


I just had a moment and realized he weighs more than I do...not good at all, but definitely has to be a traumatic experience to be taken from your mom.
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November 29, 2011 9:44 AM
the child has obviously NOT had a picture perfect life thus far. Like many adults, he may have unknowingly turned to food for comfort and now he is obese at an early age. Very sad...but can be reversed if someone would take the time to teach him and work with him.
November 29, 2011 9:45 AM
i work as a nurse at a peds clinic and was horrified when i read that story. we have so many kids that are obese due to lack of exercise and poor nutrition. it's heart-breaking to see the health issues that come with all the extra weight at such a young age. hopefully the system can work with the child and his family to get him healthy and back home.
November 29, 2011 9:45 AM
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My 3 year old is around 40lbs and with his height the doctor ALWAYS presses the issue that hes 3% overweight,


Really? That's almost disturbing to me....that they'd consistently press the issue....my two year old (2 yrs 5 months) is over 40 lbs...and our pediatrician doesn't say much of anything. I've brought it up numerous times, and she is not concerned at the moment, says he's growing normally (he's very tall too). Hopefully with my better eating habits, my son will eat better too.

About the boy in the topic....that's sad. I would never want my kids taken from me for any reason. Wonder if she tried, or perhaps needs help herself. And, I think there are too many people that have no idea how to eat right.....perhaps she had no idea, or didn't get help (Financial reasons?). I don't know. Its not my place to judge without any other facts.
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November 29, 2011 9:46 AM
My heart goes out to the boy and his family. I have mixed feelings. I did fostercare for 7 yrs and adopted 3 kids from the fostercare system, and they all have problems. Alot of there problems stem from attachment issues, but most of them would have attachment issues even if left in the home it is the type of environment they come from that contribute to these issues but sometimes taking them from the home makes it worse. I could write a book on this subject.......just sad
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November 29, 2011 9:47 AM
I have to say I am truly on the fence about this one. It is devastating to think of an eight year old boy at 200 lbs. I do think that is child abuse, just like smoking in a car with kids in it, not restraining your kid or child seat in a car with a seat belt, or taking them to a Rated R movie. I just get nervous when Child Protective Services get involved with parenting. I don't know, this is so extreme, and this definitely shows a gross amount of neglect on the parent's part. What would a foster parent be able to achieve, get the child in a weight loss program? Would foster parents that the authorities pick be qualified for that or care enough about the child to make sure he gets the help he needs. Almost all of my children are rail thin because they move around all the time, but my seventeen year old was with me through my heaviest, and he struggles with his weight. I took on the responsibility of taking him with me to the gym to lift and go out for bike rides and walks. It is making a difference. I would just want every possible avenue tried before the kid is taken away. That would be just too traumatic in my opinion.
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November 29, 2011 9:51 AM
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My heart goes out to the boy and his family. I have mixed feelings. I did fostercare for 7 yrs and adopted 3 kids from the fostercare system, and they all have problems. Alot of there problems stem from attachment issues, but most of them would have attachment issues even if left in the home it is the type of environment they come from that contribute to these issues but sometimes taking them from the home makes it worse. I could write a book on this subject.......just sad


There are two different issues here.

1. The child definitely needed to be removed from the home.
2. There needs to be more accountability within the foster system.
November 29, 2011 9:52 AM
Social Services waited WAY too long!!! I hope they didn't JUST put him into foster care, he needs professional medical help. I hope the foster family is prepared to care for this child. Poor kid. Can you imagine the pressure this 8 year old is under? He has to loose so much weight in order to be back with his mother? I wonder at what point his mother will be allowed to regain custody & will she then be able to maintain a healthy lifestyle for him? I'm assuming she is also overweight & has poor health habits.
November 29, 2011 9:53 AM
Let's not judge others. It is most wrong with this world. Our society is so quick to judge others. The reality is that this is more common. Childhood obesity has a myriad of factors, this is just one case that has made national headlines. It started prior to this child's life and can be attributed to not only what he eats but other toxins in his neighborhood, school, as well as his emotions. We can however become more informed and learn from this enlightenment and start by making better choices for ourselves and our family members and loved ones. We are all connected. To observe this type of condition in such a civilized society clearly indicates the issue is much bigger than 200lbs and has gone on for more than 8yrs.
November 29, 2011 9:54 AM
I'm going to step out of the box here and say I don't agree with the child being removed from his home, BUT I never saw the articles. Instead, the family should have been required (court ordered) to see a Dietitian, family counseling, weekly meetings and weigh in. Even a week or two at a "weight loss camp". Every option should be exhausted before removing a child from their home. The mother may not understand how to help her child lose weight and the child (I have a 9 year old) IS capable of sneaking food, and making his own bad food choices. If they live in an inner city it may be possible that the only food options close to them are fast food. Think about it, there isn't a grocery store on every corner in America, but there sure is a fast food option. In that case they would need nutrition counseling. It's not always just clear cut black and white "yeah take the kid away". :(
November 29, 2011 9:56 AM
On the other side of the spectrum...

A couple convicted last year of starving their infant daughter because they feared the baby would become too fat have lost permanent custody of their three young children

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016882590_labberton29m.html

If we are going to remove children because they are not being fed ENOUGH because of the impact to their health, it seems fair that we remove children from homes where they are being fed TOO MUCH and it is impacting their health.

However, don't get me started on the broken system that is Child Protective Services...
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November 29, 2011 10:00 AM
I read another article about this that was posted in another thread that said the foster mother is having issues keeping up with all of his appointments and treatments and they are offering extra assistance to her. This all started when the mother took him to the ER because he was having trouble breathing. There was some type of agreement or program in place where CPS got involved. None of the articles I read stated that the kid had been tested for any type of disease or genetic disorder before being taken. I don't know if they did or not. I would HOPE they did. I think there are way to many facts that are not known about this case to pass judgement. I'd be curious to know what type of assistance the family received to help the kid before he was taken and if why the results they were looking for did not happen. Not to mention the numerous other factors that could contribute to his weight. He's 8. He could be trading his healthy lunch for something else at school. Or eating his lunch plus one from the school. Or sneaking food. The mother could have financial issues were she couldn't afford whatever is was that she was being told to do. I don't know and I don't want to place any blame anywhere as it could be a combination of a multitude of things. I just think that there are way to many unknown facts to be able to make a judgement on this.
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November 29, 2011 10:02 AM
QUOTE:

I'm going to step out of the box here and say I don't agree with the child being removed from his home, BUT I never saw the articles. Instead, the family should have been required (court ordered) to see a Dietitian, family counseling, weekly meetings and weigh in. Even a week or two at a "weight loss camp". Every option should be exhausted before removing a child from their home. The mother may not understand how to help her child lose weight and the child (I have a 9 year old) IS capable of sneaking food, and making his own bad food choices. If they live in an inner city it may be possible that the only food options close to them are fast food. Think about it, there isn't a grocery store on every corner in America, but there sure is a fast food option. In that case they would need nutrition counseling. It's not always just clear cut black and white "yeah take the kid away". :(


The original news reports say measures like this were taken, and the family did not comply.
November 29, 2011 10:05 AM
QUOTE:

Let's not judge others. It is most wrong with this world. Our society is so quick to judge others. The reality is that this is more common. Childhood obesity has a myriad of factors, this is just one case that has made national headlines. It started prior to this child's life and can be attributed to not only what he eats but other toxins in his neighborhood, school, as well as his emotions. We can however become more informed and learn from this enlightenment and start by making better choices for ourselves and our family members and loved ones. We are all connected. To observe this type of condition in such a civilized society clearly indicates the issue is much bigger than 200lbs and has gone on for more than 8yrs.
November 29, 2011 11:07 AM
not trying to make excuses for the mom, but speaking from my own experience of gaining major weight during my childhood, sometimes socio-economic status makes it very easy for anyone to gain weight. my parents were hardworking but worked minimum wage labor type jobs. money was scarce after rent and bills so we shopped at bargain stores and bought bargain brands. these bargain foods obviously did not have the best or even decent nutritional value. the goal was to get more for the buck. due to this i went from an average sized 8 year old to a 140 9 yearold. as the years went on my eating habbits did not improve and by the time i hit college i was 230, i still gained 70 more pounds in college and got up to 300 lbs. all in all sometimes socio-economic status has alot to do with the way people gain weight and continue to gain weight.
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November 29, 2011 11:21 AM
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I have to say I am truly on the fence about this one. It is devastating to think of an eight year old boy at 200 lbs. I do think that is child abuse, just like smoking in a car with kids in it, not restraining your kid or child seat in a car with a seat belt, or taking them to a Rated R movie. I just get nervous when Child Protective Services get involved with parenting. I don't know, this is so extreme, and this definitely shows a gross amount of neglect on the parent's part. What would a foster parent be able to achieve, get the child in a weight loss program? Would foster parents that the authorities pick be qualified for that or care enough about the child to make sure he gets the help he needs. Almost all of my children are rail thin because they move around all the time, but my seventeen year old was with me through my heaviest, and he struggles with his weight. I took on the responsibility of taking him with me to the gym to lift and go out for bike rides and walks. It is making a difference. I would just want every possible avenue tried before the kid is taken away. That would be just too traumatic in my opinion.



We were foster parents and then were blessed to adopt our 2 older boys. There are levels of foster care licensing (at least where we live)...they do have some familes trained to work with health related issues in children. At least here...CPS tries to keep the children in the home and work with the parents as long as they deem the situtation is "safe" for the cihld to be there. CPS rules and regs vary by region.
November 29, 2011 11:26 AM
a lot of kids are overweight
Edited by warmachinejt On November 29, 2011 11:26 AM
November 29, 2011 11:31 AM
It is cruel to do that to a child, there are very few medical reasons why a child gains weight, this is a case of poor parenting, I see a lot of obese children in my work, they almost always have an obese parent, who tells you all manner of excuses why their child is overweight....they never eat too much or do too little...they are big boned, the family are all like this...they all eat healthy, small portions and none of them ever eat too many treats or snacks...at least according to the parents, the child and their lunch box often tell a VERY different story. I am sure from my own experience that a LOT will have been tried and offered to help before this child was removed, and also in my experience they probably waited too long, in the vain hope that the parents would care enough to make the effort for their child, they clearly didn't.

People who are overweight themselves are often still of an excuse filled mind set to see things as they really are, all the reasons under the sun do not make a child overweight, it is too much food and not enough exercise.
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November 29, 2011 11:32 AM
I'm actually totally fine with this.

The reason why I'm fine, is because they worked hard with the mom for almost two years to get that boy be healthy. The parents didn't comply, and therefore have created an unhealthy (even deadly) environment for this child. (I am going to assume that the family was given means to give a healthy lifestyle to this child and just didn't comply).
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