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September 21, 2011 3:26 PM
I'm sitting here and just wondering, "Why do we need veggies and fruit in tour diet, today's world?"
* We can get sufficient (more than sufficient) vitamins and minerals from Supplements;
* We now have access to water, where normally a third of our intake would come from veggies and fruit;
* We used to need the "bulk" that they provided to help us have bowel movements, now we have Grains and Supplements... ;
* And we know that a "normal" diet can not supply all the nutrients needed, so why not take Supplements.

SO, other than the fact that their production has become another marketing "PLOY," I LIKE Them and they add a "filler" in a lower calorie eating plan...BUT there is actually NO NEED for them.

What's your Opinion?
September 21, 2011 3:28 PM
I don't think you can get the same nutrition from supplements as you get from the real thing. That is just my opinion.happy
September 21, 2011 3:30 PM
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I don't think you can get the same nutrition from supplements as you get from the real thing. That is just my opinion.happy

Yeah I have to agree, I mostly use them as a filler though.
September 21, 2011 3:30 PM
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I don't think you can get the same nutrition from supplements as you get from the real thing. That is just my opinion.happy

Totally agree, we are by no means healthier than we used to be, humans are diseased and why do you think that is?? Um the food.
  10063157
September 21, 2011 3:31 PM
The veggies help trim your waist line better...or so I've heard
  9803626
September 21, 2011 3:32 PM
Why race in circles and $$$ trying to mimic the good food nutrition nature can provide you?
  5153157
September 21, 2011 3:32 PM
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I don't think you can get the same nutrition from supplements as you get from the real thing. That is just my opinion.happy


This.

Fruits and veggies have nutrients that interact with each other in special ways that pure supplements can't. The scientists don't have all the answers.

Just this week they found that white-fleshed fruits decrease your stroke risk. Why? No idea.
September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
I wonder the same thing sometimes. I mean, I use my Amazing Grass supplement and it says to have much of all of what I need in a daily diet, and to be quite honest it saves me from washing dirt off of my vegetables and running to eat them before they spoil.

Go easy on me; single mom, full-time therapist, busy schedule - I'm all about freshness and the like but if I can get it all in a supplement, I'm for it.

drinker
September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
Science cannot reproduce what nature does best.
It probably (wait, I'm going to go with definitely) makes your body work harder to chew, swallow and digest an orange than it does swallowing a pill with some water - so in the long run it'd be better for your body to keep working by eating the real deal.
Yeah?
September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
....'cause fruits and veggies taste good, occur in nature, and you need calories to live anyway?
September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
Back in the day when people ate fruits, veggies less processed food were not OBESE!!!
September 21, 2011 3:33 PM
Because fruit and veggies taste delicious and supplements taste like ****! This is one reason.
  5355606
September 21, 2011 3:34 PM
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Back in the day when people ate fruits, veggies less processed food were not OBESE!!!

YES!!!!
  10063157
September 21, 2011 3:35 PM
Well, I guess people could just take a bunch of pills or supplements, but what's the fun in that? Apples, strawberries, grapes and bananas are among my favorites & are tasty & nutritious. And I've come to appreciate the crunch of a nice tossed salad. Can't put that in a bottle.
September 21, 2011 3:35 PM
I take it you are joking??
If not, then you are the manufacturing industry's dream consumer..... may I interest you in a bridge I have for sale???
  4147547
September 21, 2011 3:36 PM
Are you saying that science knows 100% what is in each and every vegetable and fruit, and can replicate this into an easily-digestible pill that suits every person on earth?



...Why make supplements when you can just eat food?
  8151542
September 21, 2011 3:39 PM
QUOTE:

I don't think you can get the same nutrition from supplements as you get from the real thing. That is just my opinion.happy


This ^^^ also...At least in my case I'll say I'm not a person that normally monitors sodium in my diet because I'm healthy but during my first pregnancy I ended up having a c-section 'cause of high blood preassure. Veggies and fruit are very low in sodium. I'm stuggling to stay under the 2,500 sodium a day, the only way I can do it is with veggies and fruit. Proccessed foods have way too much. I might end up changing my whole way of eating after pregnancy for good anyway to keep healthy.
  4579010
September 21, 2011 3:39 PM
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Science cannot reproduce what nature does best.
It probably (wait, I'm going to go with definitely) makes your body work harder to chew, swallow and digest an orange than it does swallowing a pill with some water - so in the long run it'd be better for your body to keep working by eating the real deal.
Yeah?


YEAH. I kinda can't believe anyone is asking this. This reminds me of mid-(20th)century sci-fi modernism - like it's some kind of futuristic dream to get our nutrients from pills and gels, like the astronauts!! Oh, and a steak!!

There's actually scientific understanding about this, and you might look some of that up (on real sites like WebMD or National Institutes of Health, not just Google...). For one thing, and in brief, the beneficial phytochemicals, vitamins and minerals in produce often occur in complementary combinations and yes, they are actually better absorbed as whole foods.
  11193941
September 21, 2011 3:40 PM
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I take it you are joking??
If not, then you are the manufacturing industry's dream consumer..... may I interest you in a bridge I have for sale???


HAHA - what she said!
  11193941
September 21, 2011 3:43 PM
Supplements/vitamins tend to upset my stomach. Maybe I haven't tried the right ones, but I think I'd rather stick with food.
  1542770
September 21, 2011 3:44 PM
Personally I prefer to get my antioxidants etc fresh, which is why i grow my own fruit and veg as much as possible. I'd much rather go cut a fresh lettuce and some tomatoes and pick some cherries or strawberries in my own back yard than go down to the supermarket or healthstore and buy 3 day old produce or a bottle of synthesized nutrients - where's the enjoyment in that?

My insides prefer natural foods to processed ones, they are so much easier to digest. Half the reason I"m the size I am is because of my former addiction to processed carbs and salt, so by eating as close to natural as I can works for me. Give me a baked sweet potato and a couple of slices of wholemeal bread - I'll choose the sweet potato every time.

Also, supplements are freakin' expensive! For the cost of a bottle of mutivitamins I can grow a whole garden bed full of fresh produce, and get a lot more enjoyment out of it. Did our ancestors have access to bottles of supplements? No. They had to live on roots, leaves, grains and berries and whatever meat they could catch. They were stronger than we are today and more active, and diabetes, hypertension, allergies etc all didn't exist.

Sorry about the lengthy diatribe, but this is a touchy subject for me :o)

Ok, rant over xx
  4669298
September 21, 2011 3:44 PM
It is proven it is better to get the nutrients from the actual project and not supplements!! Eat fruits and veggies!
  7587537
September 21, 2011 3:46 PM
Wow, people are really up in arms about this aren't they? lol

I guess in my opinion they are of course a good filler and if you don't eat some vegetable fiber well.......you would have to add it anyway with another supplement or things just wouldn't work right so to speak.

People are really defensive about their veggies huh?
September 21, 2011 3:46 PM
Because fruit and veggies have all sorts of phytonutrients and antioxidants which have beneficial effects for the body that haven't even been studied yet.

Because it is unwise to assume that the employees in a complementary healthcare company who formulate these vitamin and mineral products are experts in human nutrition who do nothing else in their jobs but keep up with the nutritional literature. I doubt very much this is the case for many products. And vitamin and mineral supplements are not evaluated for efficacy - in the US, the FDA does not evaluate them at all for safety, efficacy, anything.

Because even when experts formulate total parenteral nutrition products for registration with the FDA/MHRA/TGA/MEDSAFE/whatever which must be evaluated for safety and efficacy before use (unlike the supplements you take at home), they make mistakes which cause micronutrient deficiencies or overdoses, and the nutritional status of people using these products needs to be monitored to prevent this.

Because fruit and vegetables are very filling foods for very little calories, and managing satiety is one of the keys to managing weight.

Because fruit and vegetables taste yummy.

Need any other reasons? ;)
September 21, 2011 3:47 PM
One could say that about all food including meat I suppose. Why not just take some protein tablets instead of chewing on a steak or a chicken?


1) I think vegetables and fruits taste good. So I'd say that's probably the number one reason to keep eating them. Food is tasty. I don't want to live on tablets and shakes.

2) What if we haven't identified all the nutritional benefits of any given food? Sure, we know we all need Vitamin C, but until recently no one talked about needing omega 3s or antioxidants, so there were no supplements for them. However, if you were eating naturally, you probably consumed a good amount by eating fish, nuts, and fresh veggies/fruits.

So I'd keep eating natural foods as much as possible, in case there's stuff in there that science doesn't know about yet and hasn't reproduced.

And also, see point 1, they taste good :)

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