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September 5, 2011 9:04 PM
hi! i'm really ill, i think i have food poisoning, and i'm kind of at a loss of what to eat while on a low-carb diet. all the normal sick foods are out (BRAT- bananas rice applesauce toast), because they're all starchy or sugary. the only things i could think of to eat today were chicken broth (i added some chicken when i had it for dinner as my stomach was feeling a bit better) and sugar-free jello. does anyone else have any suggestion? thanks!
September 5, 2011 9:09 PM
peanut butter... yummmm =)
September 5, 2011 9:09 PM
Hope you feel better,,,tea with honey and lots of water would be my suggestionflowerforyou
September 5, 2011 9:11 PM
i scanned through the last two weeks of your diary - please eat. You shouldn't have such a fear of carbs that it's preventing you from eating anything when you're sick. But beyond that, most of your diary entries range from 400-800 calories per day - total. Please eat.
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September 5, 2011 9:15 PM
QUOTE:

i scanned through the last two weeks of your diary - please eat. You shouldn't have such a fear of carbs that it's preventing you from eating anything when you're sick. But beyond that, most of your diary entries range from 400-800 calories per day - total. Please eat.


Wow, yes.. Please eat!
September 5, 2011 9:17 PM
chicken soup, veg soup ect all they are is veg cooked in olive oil plus stock and cream for the chicken (you can use cream cheese) and tin tomato for the veg.
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September 5, 2011 9:17 PM
QUOTE:

i scanned through the last two weeks of your diary - please eat. You shouldn't have such a fear of carbs that it's preventing you from eating anything when you're sick. But beyond that, most of your diary entries range from 400-800 calories per day - total. Please eat.

I completely agree. You ate 148 calories Monday. That is starvation. This will ruin your metabolism and make weight loss near-impossible, especially since you have (according to your ticker) 325 pounds to lose.
September 5, 2011 9:17 PM
@sara- i really am trying to eat more :) i wouldn't say i have a fear of carbs- i'm just trying to stay under a certain level, to stay in ketosis. if i get pushed over then it takes about 3 days to get back in and it's not a fun 3 days. i haven't been hungry lately, and i've been eating when i'm hungry- i'm afraid if i start eating when i'm NOT hungry i'll go back to my old habits.

@cvan and jp- thanks for the suggestions! so, i've been avoiding tea because i've heard it's dehydrating- however, i only ever drink mint tea, which doesn't have caffeine, so it should be fine right? and PB sounds reeeeally good, i might have a spoonful later tonight :D

@cindi- i ate so little today (still monday here) because i'm sick/nauseous :(
Edited by offthiscentury On September 5, 2011 9:18 PM
September 5, 2011 9:19 PM
and just an FYI, low carb diets have shown no metabolic advantage over a higher carb diet, so no reason you can't enjoy carbs and still cut weight
September 5, 2011 9:20 PM
micronutrient deficiencies aren't good. Eat fruit and vegetables.
September 5, 2011 9:25 PM
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micronutrient deficiencies aren't good. Eat fruit and vegetables.


Agreed. This is probably why you're sick. You need to give your body the tools (vitamins and minerals) to keep your immunity up and stay healthy. Otherwise, you become very vulnerable. One multivitamin a day is not enough to do this. I promise.
September 5, 2011 9:28 PM
I agree with sara_m83 you need to eat thats all your food diary is 400-800 calories i am so so right now i have dyshidrotic eczema on my hands ,now i think its on my feet to i have to keep using steroid hand cream my doctor gave me to use , plus benadryl what i read on my condition is brought out by stress or if you wash dishes alot , do things that irritate the eczema i didnt get this til 2 weeks ago yesterday , you can add me on here as friend ill see what i can look up later on low carb foods to help you , if your on facebook i go by CathyKat Moholland hope you feel better soon Huggs ((((((offthiscentury))))))
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September 5, 2011 10:10 PM
I am hoping you feel better soon. flowerforyou

Before I begin my post, I wanted to give you a little background on me.bigsmile In the last 2-3 months I have lost about 22 pounds, I generally don't eat sweets, or add sugar, and only occasionally breads, etc. I eat a TON of fresh fruit, veggies, etc and a reasonable amount of brown rice, oatmeal, whole real grains, etc. Meat-wise, I mostly eat chicken, turkey, minimal red meat, cheese, greek yogurt, and drink organic DHA 2% milk (no pork, large amounts of red meat, or regular milk as I have BAD reactions to them.sick ) I drink at least 64+ ounces of water a daydrinker . I do struggle with getting up to my 1200 a day caloriesgrumble , but I am learning to add healthy foods in that get me there, like nuts, avocado, etchappy . I am NOT even CLOSE to being a diet guruglasses , but I consider myself reasonably well informed, and straightforward. After reading your post I find myself concerned for your welfarefrown .

You need to eat. It scares me to see those calories so lowfrown . I was a laboratory technician for years and seeing a lot of Ketones in urine samples was not considered such a good thingsad .

I found this review, perhaps if you would like to read it, it would give you an alternate understanding of what Ketosis can do.

http://www.uiw.edu/nutrition/atkins/Atkins.html

I found this information very interesting in their conclusion.

"For those of you who still feel like you want to eat a very few servings of fruits and vegetables and almost no bread or pasta or pizza crust and like the idea of checking your urine for the presence of ketones just consider one more thing. The following activities would allow you to burn the maximum number of calories that ketosis could provide (up to 150 calories per day):
� stair walking for 15 minutes
� walking 2 miles in 30 minutes
� gardening for 30-45 minutes
� raking leaves for 30 minutes
� dancing (fast) for 30 minutes"



North, L. and Weaver, B. (unk). Review of Dr. Atkins' New DIet Revolution [Review of the book Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution]. Retrieved from UIW Web site: http://www.uiw.edu/nutrition/atkins/Atkins.html


Please consider an alternative to what you are currently doing.

With Warmth and Friendship from Missouri!

flowerforyou ~ Sonia
Edited by sonybalony On September 5, 2011 10:12 PM
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September 6, 2011 12:13 AM
Ketosis is not unhealthy....................You are confusing Ketosis and Ketoacidosis - 2 totally different things.

Secondly, she has stated that she has food poisoning, so please stop with the low carb bashing.



To the Original Poster:

Food Poisoning is icky. Broths made from chicken bones with the marrow (you will know because it will gel) is very good for you and filled with nutrients.

Sugar-free jello is also good......Ginger tea (steep some ginger in hot water) - very soothing to the stomach.

Other than that, letting your digestive tract heal and fasting is good for this.

You will not ruin your metabolism with a few days of not eating that much. It takes a lot more than a few days for the body to go into "starvation mode" especially when you have a considerable amount of weight to lose.
September 6, 2011 12:23 AM
premade chicken broth, even in the box. maybe bake chicken breasts, cut if up, and let it soak in the broth on the burner for a few. veggie broth + cut up onions is good. wheat toast, or unsalted saltines. pedelight. apple sauce.

find what you can keep down and eat that.
September 6, 2011 4:06 AM
there is a HUGE difference between ketonacidosis and ketosis, I WAS referring to ketosis... No she said she thinks that food poisoning is what it is... So obviously she doesn't know... Here is my concern...

"Ketosis most commonly occurs when people are following a high-protein and low-carbohydrate diet. When the body is forced to use protein and reserves of fat because there are not enough carbohydrates in the body, it has achieved ketosis. The ketosis side effects range from relatively minor side effects, such as bad breath and gas, to more significant side effects, such as weakness, nausea, and dizziness. Among the most severe ketosis side effects are liver damage and kidney damage.

Sounds a little like the last case of food poisoning I got...

Back to the important person here... the OP~ are you under a doctors supervision to be at 400-800 cal a day? I have no problem
with a diet that limits processed carbs, my problem is with a restriction to a high degree, especially in combination with such low
calorie. How long have you been doing this and how much have you lost? If your doc is good with it and is monitoring you... Go for it... If not... Reconsider ALTERNATIVES...

Read the article, being informed about ALL aspects of a diet and how your body behaves is NEVER a bad idea.

I really hope you feel better soon!!!

~ Sonia
Edited by sonybalony On September 6, 2011 4:09 AM
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September 6, 2011 6:20 AM
QUOTE:

and just an FYI, low carb diets have shown no metabolic advantage over a higher carb diet, so no reason you can't enjoy carbs and still cut weight


QUOTE:

I am hoping you feel better soon. flowerforyou

Before I begin my post, I wanted to give you a little background on me.bigsmile In the last 2-3 months I have lost about 22 pounds, I generally don't eat sweets, or add sugar, and only occasionally breads, etc. I eat a TON of fresh fruit, veggies, etc and a reasonable amount of brown rice, oatmeal, whole real grains, etc. Meat-wise, I mostly eat chicken, turkey, minimal red meat, cheese, greek yogurt, and drink organic DHA 2% milk (no pork, large amounts of red meat, or regular milk as I have BAD reactions to them.sick ) I drink at least 64+ ounces of water a daydrinker . I do struggle with getting up to my 1200 a day caloriesgrumble , but I am learning to add healthy foods in that get me there, like nuts, avocado, etchappy . I am NOT even CLOSE to being a diet guruglasses , but I consider myself reasonably well informed, and straightforward. After reading your post I find myself concerned for your welfarefrown .

You need to eat. It scares me to see those calories so lowfrown . I was a laboratory technician for years and seeing a lot of Ketones in urine samples was not considered such a good thingsad .

I found this review, perhaps if you would like to read it, it would give you an alternate understanding of what Ketosis can do.

http://www.uiw.edu/nutrition/atkins/Atkins.html

I found this information very interesting in their conclusion.

"For those of you who still feel like you want to eat a very few servings of fruits and vegetables and almost no bread or pasta or pizza crust and like the idea of checking your urine for the presence of ketones just consider one more thing. The following activities would allow you to burn the maximum number of calories that ketosis could provide (up to 150 calories per day):
� stair walking for 15 minutes
� walking 2 miles in 30 minutes
� gardening for 30-45 minutes
� raking leaves for 30 minutes
� dancing (fast) for 30 minutes"



North, L. and Weaver, B. (unk). Review of Dr. Atkins' New DIet Revolution [Review of the book Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution]. Retrieved from UIW Web site: http://www.uiw.edu/nutrition/atkins/Atkins.html


Please consider an alternative to what you are currently doing.

With Warmth and Friendship from Missouri!

flowerforyou ~ Sonia


Why come into a thread that specifically says "Low carb" in the title just to say the OP should eat more carbs?
September 6, 2011 9:12 AM
I was checking out this topic because I was interested in learning if there were any good low carb foods for when you get sick... For me, when I am nauseated, toast has traditionally been all I could hold down, and as I am not eating much bread and since tummy flu season is coming up soon, I was interested in the answers.

I am NOT necessarily opposed to eating low carb, if she was eating enough food (consistently MORE than 400-800 cal a day) I probably wouldn't have even mentioned anything. But the lovely combo of low carb and very low calorie concerns me (she has MFP set for more, so I assume calories are not "officially" supposed to be that low). Especially as she IS sick and it could be food poisoning, it could be side effects of the ketosis, it could be the flu for all she or we know...

Each person can absolutely make up their own mind, it is the OPs body... But shouldn't each of us be very aware of what we are doing when we do stressful things to our bodies? (In this case any kind of diet, exercise program, etc) Information is a terrific stepping stone to health, IF she has the info and chooses to do things this way, more power to her! I wish her all the luck and health she can handle!

From her profile, which she has now made private, it appeared that she has been doing this at least 2-3 weeks. If she just started this last month, is wanting to lose over 300 pounds, is eating consistently between 400-800 calories daily, is on a Atkin's type diet, and has not lost ANY weight, there 'may' be an issue.... just saying... she may want to consult a Doctor or Nutritionist, and evaluate whether this is working for her.

Again hon, I hope you fell better soon! flowerforyou

~ Sonia
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September 6, 2011 10:57 AM
Hi , 1st I hope you are feeling better. I eat yogurt when I have an upset . it will coat the tummy and help get rid of bad bacteria.
September 6, 2011 11:10 AM
Why are you guys throwing facts at her? She knows the amount of calories she's eating is too low. She did not ask for you guys to tell her that. She only asked for you guys to suggest low-carb foods that would not make her sick. If she wanted to know your opinion on the amount of calories she eats on a daily basis, she would have asked.
September 6, 2011 11:25 AM
I normally eat toast with marmite on when I am sick... However, trying to rack my brains for low carb foods (They are a large part of my diet, one I was recently thinking of cutting down on until I read this thread)

Yoghurt, Salad, Berries, chicken, fish...

I'd recommend pure orange juice for some much needed vit C too.
September 6, 2011 1:28 PM
QUOTE:

there is a HUGE difference between ketonacidosis and ketosis, I WAS referring to ketosis... No she said she thinks that food poisoning is what it is... So obviously she doesn't know... Here is my concern...

"Ketosis most commonly occurs when people are following a high-protein and low-carbohydrate diet. When the body is forced to use protein and reserves of fat because there are not enough carbohydrates in the body, it has achieved ketosis. The ketosis side effects range from relatively minor side effects, such as bad breath and gas, to more significant side effects, such as weakness, nausea, and dizziness. Among the most severe ketosis side effects are liver damage and kidney damage.

Sounds a little like the last case of food poisoning I got...

Back to the important person here... the OP~ are you under a doctors supervision to be at 400-800 cal a day? I have no problem
with a diet that limits processed carbs, my problem is with a restriction to a high degree, especially in combination with such low
calorie. How long have you been doing this and how much have you lost? If your doc is good with it and is monitoring you... Go for it... If not... Reconsider ALTERNATIVES...

Read the article, being informed about ALL aspects of a diet and how your body behaves is NEVER a bad idea.

I really hope you feel better soon!!!

~ Sonia


I have never seen anyone have any negative side effects from Ketosis and I have been in a state of Ketosis for the last 6 months now and I have had nothing but more energy and in the beginning there is some bad breath until the body is used to burning fat as its primary fuel.

The brain thrives off of ketones, so Ketosis is no where near unhealthy.

And there is nothing wrong with a low calorie eating plan when you are severely overweight. The vitamins that are stored in the fat cells are more than enough along with the nutrition that the OP is putting into her body that she is getting adequate nutrition.

She didn't ask for anyone to tell her she needs to eat grains when grains are NOT needed or necessary for proper body function. There are no nutrients in grains that can't be obtained elsewhere.

And I am willing to bet that the OP is eating proteins and vegetables (a clean eating routine) as to why her calories are on the lower side.

And she mentioned that her calories were low due to being sick.
September 6, 2011 2:25 PM
sorry for neglecting the thread, i was just... really disappointed by some of the responses, and needed some time away. thank you everyone who stuck up for me, and who stuck up for low-carb diets :) and thank you everyone for the food ideas! i'm feeling a whole lot better today, but next time i get sick i have some new things to try :D

in the future if you are worried about my diet, please PM me instead of posting here :(
September 6, 2011 4:44 PM
offthiscentury ~ I apologize for allowing my concernembarassed to turn to stubbornnessgrumble . And my stubbornnessgrumble to lead to my common courtesyflowerforyou jumping out the window.frown My intention was truly not to make you feel badly about your dieting decisions. I realize now that my hardheadedness kicked in when I felt my intention was not being received as I had intended and I, unfortunately became even more stubborn. You are absolutely correct when you said that a Private Message of my concern would have been more appropriate, and would not have led to your thread becoming something you never intended it to be. .

I do hope you feel better soon, and that the constructive comments about foods that would be gentle on your tummy help you recover quickly.

flowerforyou ~ Sonia
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