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August 28, 2011 12:39 PM
MFP suggested that I have no more than 25g of sugar per day. This seems reasonable to me, only if talking about processed sugar. I've been packing alot fruit in my lunch box everyday to have as snacks in between my meals, but this is making my daily sugar intake through the roof. Does this kind of sugar count against the suggested intake? Or does anyone have any suggestions about what I can pack as snacks instead of all my fruit? Thanks.
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August 28, 2011 12:41 PM
That is the exact same thing that is happening to me. Although I feel that it shouldn't be counted because fruit sugars are healthy. Not sure though.. looking for an answer to this aswell
August 28, 2011 12:45 PM
I have the same question.
I am no help, D:.
August 28, 2011 12:50 PM
Fruit sugar (fructose) is not healthy for you, but it's not necessarily bad for you in moderation either. Fructose in general is not considered a good ingredient. Fruit is good for you because of the 1) vitamins and minerals and 2) fiber.

There have been several forum discussions on this subject. Someone posted a link to a pretty informative explanation of fructose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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August 28, 2011 12:51 PM
fruit has approximately the same sort of nutritional value as vegetables, the only real difference is it includes extra sugar in most cases.
You can easily have more veg and less fruit.

But even veg have sugar, so yes, you need to include the sugar from fruit in with your total sugar count for the day, just as you would sugar from all sources, processed or natural *S*
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August 28, 2011 12:53 PM
fruit sugar is different than processed sugar so don't worry about it. Just look at the sugar content of processed foods you eat and if you keep to a goal of like 5 sugar or less that should keep you under 25g for processed sugars.
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August 28, 2011 12:56 PM
I'm curious as well. Whole fruit and 100% fruit juices, and MILK are sending my sugar column through the roof. And I'm very careful about "sugar". However, I was told that these sugars are treated by your body the same way, sugars from fruits and "sugar", as a simple sugar and are the first to be burned by your body as energy. Therefore your body isn't burning fat. And why high fructose corn syrup is super duper evil. Concentrated sugar. And to limit high sugar fruits such as strawberries grumble

I certainly do not put this out there as fact, I offer up there information as discussion and would love clarification and more information.

I do have the sugar columns up on my daily log, but tend to turn a blind eye to the sugars from fruits and milk. Blow me down, I've been on the site nearly a week now, and it's just been a total eye opener, I'm measuring my foods also.
  10500359
August 28, 2011 1:07 PM
Ever since I limited my fruit intake, my stomach has gotten *much* flatter. So, I personally, don't mind it being counted.
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August 28, 2011 1:25 PM
It is processed fructose that is bad for you not the fructose in fruit. I subtract my fruit related sugars from my total of sugars to get an idea of wether I am having too much sugar. I would limit the amount of fruit juice you have though. Yes it is true that alot of fruit could be too much and still lose weight but you should have at least 2 servings of fruit a day and at least 3 servings of vegetables. There are fruits such as cantelope and strawberries that are as good for you as vegetables. So don't let the sugar content in the fruit keep you from getting the nutrition you need from fruit.
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January 16, 2013 11:52 AM
I wasn't sure about it either. I feel like I should be eating a decent amount of fruit in the day. I love to juice, so my sugar intake from fruit will be high. I dont feel like it should count, but I dont feel like it shouldnt count. The only sugar I get is from fruit, really, unless I ate something outside of my home. I feel like its okay... but being a little paranoid, my solution was to find out how many grams of fruit sugar I had per day on average naturally, and use about 2/3 of that number for my daily limit.
  1099756
January 16, 2013 11:54 AM
Unless you are diabetics, the least of your worries should be sugar, especially from fruit. If you have moderate carbs, you will be fine. Besides MFP is low on sugar. You are better off tracking sodium and fiber along with the main macros: carbs, protein and fats.
January 16, 2013 11:55 AM
Honestly the MFP sugar recommendation is total BS in my opinion. I eat all the fruit I want!
January 16, 2013 11:59 AM
I upped my sugar goal to 50g
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January 16, 2013 11:59 AM
If you are looking to cut fat, then limiting your fruit intake and increasing your veggie intake is the way to go. Limit or remove all or most processed foods also.

Also limit pasta, white or brown rice, potatoes, breads. I am not on it, but this is why the slow or low carb diet is so successful. Because these types of foods have to be broken down in the body as/into sugars.

Cheat tips - avoid a lot of :

fruit
starchy foods
processed foods
  34641214
January 16, 2013 12:03 PM
QUOTE:

Honestly the MFP sugar recommendation is total BS in my opinion. I eat all the fruit I want!


it might be BS, but science is science and the facts are - the body doesn't discriminate sugars and starches very well.

The reason people say "eat all the fruit you want" is b/c it has lower calories than processed alternatives, and are very nutrient dense. However most popular notions are usually wrong. You also don't look like you need to lose as much weight as the rest of us, so maybe that works for you ;)
  34641214
January 16, 2013 12:03 PM
Fructose is fructose, whether "natural" or processed. It's processed in your body almost identically to how alcohol is processed. Fruit has the benefit of micronutrients (vitamins and minerals), but the sugar should absolutely be counted in your daily intake. If you're going to include fruit in your diet, make it whole fruit - juice is as bad as soda.

If you have some extra time on your hands, watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Edited by cmecklenborg On January 16, 2013 12:05 PM
January 16, 2013 12:05 PM
How can a raw orange be bad for you - unless of course you're diabetic. It's high in sugar, but I am only counting processed foods.
January 16, 2013 12:08 PM
It should be counted. Fruit is only good for you because of the other micronutrients. If you're really concerned about it then eat more veggies. They don't have much, if any, natural sugar like a lot of fruit.
January 16, 2013 12:08 PM
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I wasn't sure about it either. I feel like I should be eating a decent amount of fruit in the day. I love to juice, so my sugar intake from fruit will be high. I dont feel like it should count, but I dont feel like it shouldnt count. The only sugar I get is from fruit, really, unless I ate something outside of my home. I feel like its okay... but being a little paranoid, my solution was to find out how many grams of fruit sugar I had per day on average naturally, and use about 2/3 of that number for my daily limit.


One thing that seems to work for EVERYONE universally is limiting or removing completely calories from drinks (veggie & protein shake excluded). Juice is just as big of culprit based on how your body digests it, and most juice on the market has the same sugar content as a can of coke.

220 calories from a 500ml glass of apple juice, but also 26g of sugar! And most people that drink juice drink 2+ glasses a day.
  34641214
January 16, 2013 12:08 PM
Unless you have a medical condition, there is really no reason to worry about sugar. Also, the fiber in fruits and vegetables slows the rate at which your body stores the sugar. I don't understand all of the science behind it and all of the ins and outs, but basically this is why my type II diabetic dad can have fruits and veg (though limited to a couple of servings of fruit per day) but is supposed to absolutely steer clear of processed sugar.

Also...I don't know of anyone who got fat eating their fruits and veg...cake is another matter altogether.

Manage your macros, not your micros.
January 16, 2013 12:12 PM
QUOTE:

Honestly the MFP sugar recommendation is total BS in my opinion. I eat all the fruit I want!


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January 16, 2013 12:12 PM
QUOTE:

How can a raw orange be bad for you - unless of course you're diabetic. It's high in sugar, but I am only counting processed foods.


only counting processed foods - maybe you should try adding more whole foods (thus removing processed options). Eating 2 oranges could have the same effect as a bag of skittles in the body.

Just b/c something is marketing and thought of as healthy, doesn't mean there are better choices out there.
  34641214
January 16, 2013 12:15 PM
Sugar is sugar - just like fat is fat. You are tracking an entire category.

If you want to track fructose vs. glucose vs. galactose then that is a different question, just like tracking saturated vs. monounsaturated fat is not the same as just tracking "fat".

Also if you choose to exclude fructose from the "sugar" equation, make sure you also realize that plain old table sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose, and that the evil high-fructose corn syrup is 55% fructose and 45% glucose.
January 16, 2013 12:17 PM
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fruit sugar is different than processed sugar so don't worry about it. Just look at the sugar content of processed foods you eat and if you keep to a goal of like 5 sugar or less that should keep you under 25g for processed sugars.

How is it different? Your body processes it exactly the same as any other sugar. The only difference is the fiber and vitamins in fruit.
January 16, 2013 12:17 PM
I do not trust anything that says to limit your intake of fruits and vegetables.
Every single pound you see lost on my ticker has been from ignoring the sugar recommendation when it comes to all natural sources.

I eat any and all fruit- even the incredibly high in sugar grapes, bananas, and dates. *gasp*
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