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August 24, 2011 12:15 PM
Great, I've reached my limit on sugar for the day and its only lunch time. Why? Because I had a cup of milk. 16 grams of sugar. 16! Is there milk out there that has less sugar? Perhaps organic, soy, almond milk? Or is milk sugar natural and not as bad as processed sugar? HELP!
August 24, 2011 12:18 PM
Unsweetened Almond milk has no sugar - I put alittle Stevia in mine - it's really good.
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August 24, 2011 12:18 PM
I have the same problem - I'm ALWAYS over my sugar limit by lunchtime. Are the sugar limits realistic on here?
August 24, 2011 12:19 PM
organic silk (soy) milk has 1 gram of sugar in it, but yes milk has way too much sugar. i end up drinking sugarless hot tea with a lemon wedge instead
August 24, 2011 12:20 PM
I don't even bother looking at sugars. Yes milk has them, but it also has 8g of protein. Almond milk only has 1g of protein.
August 24, 2011 12:21 PM
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I don't even bother looking at sugars. Yes milk has them, but it also has 8g of protein. Almond milk only has 1g of protein.


I don't pay attention to the sugars too much either. Greek yogurt and a banana sets me over for the day.
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August 24, 2011 12:21 PM
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Great, I've reached my limit on sugar for the day and its only lunch time. Why? Because I had a cup of milk. 16 grams of sugar. 16! Is there milk out there that has less sugar? Perhaps organic, soy, almond milk? Or is milk sugar natural and not as bad as processed sugar? HELP!


Try not to pay much attention to the sugar in milk (lactosse) or in fruit, the amount MFP shows should be the limit for added sugar, but there is no way to break out natural and added, which is why I don't track sugar on my diary.
August 24, 2011 12:23 PM
It's lactose. It has a high glycemic index, but a low glycemic load.
August 24, 2011 12:34 PM
Thanks everyone!
August 24, 2011 12:37 PM
I'd definitely try Blue Diamond Almond Breeze Milk. They have a sweetened and unsweetened version. Personally I've only used it for protein shakes, but it wouldn't hurt to try it over processed milk. 7g sugar for the original sweetened flavor.

This is a good read about simple and complex carbs and mentions milk: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm
August 24, 2011 12:37 PM
Unsweetened almond milk. Make it your new best friend.
August 24, 2011 12:43 PM
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It's lactose. It has a high glycemic index, but a low glycemic load.


Huh huh... You said "load."
  203373
August 24, 2011 12:45 PM
I drink Silk Light Soy Original 1 cup = 4 grams! I thought I'd hate it but I really got used to it and now don't even want regular milk.
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August 24, 2011 12:57 PM
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QUOTE:

I don't even bother looking at sugars. Yes milk has them, but it also has 8g of protein. Almond milk only has 1g of protein.


I don't pay attention to the sugars too much either. Greek yogurt and a banana sets me over for the day.


Same here. I frankly don't pay much attention to my macro nutrients either. The human body is amazingly adaptable and frankly the bigger problem for most people in the developed world is too many calories, not their macro nutrient breakdown.
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August 24, 2011 12:58 PM
QUOTE:

Unsweetened Almond milk has no sugar - I put alittle Stevia in mine - it's really good.

LOVE<LOVE<LOVE Stevia!!!!!
August 24, 2011 1:29 PM
I feel the same way - honestly the way I look at it is that if I didn't add sugar (ie, brown sugar in my oatmeal) or the food isn't processed (ie cookies, granola bar), then it doesn't "Really" count. Yogurt, milk, fruits, veggies...that stuff will put you over SO fast but it's really not bad. My one green apple is 17 g of sugar - add that to my 1/2 cup yogurt (8 g) and 3 oz baby carrots and I'm over...but who would tell me not to eat those foods? - it's more refined sugar and it's one thing I wish MFP would do better at.

So either, at the end of the day, subtract all the "good sugars", and then see if you are over - OR just ignore it and realize that you should minimize any sugar that's not already in the food. Be careful though because some milk (Even almond, rice, etc) and some yogurt and some fruit (Think canned) will ADD sugar to the original - you want the pure stuff, anything added is bad.
June 12, 2012 11:09 AM
Skim milk has more sugar than whole milk. That's why I never drink sissy ass skim milk.
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July 23, 2012 6:16 AM
I was worried about this to. Basically what I found out is that the natural sugar (Lactose) in milk, is nothing to worry about . The protein that you get with it counteracts the sugar blood spike that would cause your body to store the sugar as fat. here is a site that might help you. http://www.everydiet.org/1001/sugar-and-artificial-sugar-facts The following is copied from it--Sugar is certainly not your enemy. Refined and processed sugars are! Consume a protein and a whole, unprocessed carbohydrate with every meal, and add healthy fats to your diet. If these meals happen to contain some natural honey or cane juice, don’t sweat it! Eat 4 – 5 servings of fruit and or vegetables each day – there are far too many healthy compounds in these foods to pass them up out of fear of the natural sugar contained within.
December 7, 2012 5:22 AM
I need the milk because of the calcium. I have osteropenia and want to make sure I get the calcium I need but I as well as everyone else keep going over on my sugar. I've spoken to a nutritionalist several years ago and she told me not to drink milk because of the sugar. I am a picky eater and do not each cheese or yogurt so I'm very limited on how to get my calcium. I've switche to skim no there's no fat but it doesn't help with the sugar.
December 7, 2012 5:32 AM
Why are you tracking sugar? Unless you have some type of issue where excessive sugar causes you other problems just quit looking at it. I don't track it at all, it doesn't show up on my diary. If your goal is weight loss just stay at or under your calorie goal.
  914777
December 7, 2012 5:33 AM
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I'd definitely try Blue Diamond Almond Breeze Milk. They have a sweetened and unsweetened version. Personally I've only used it for protein shakes, but it wouldn't hurt to try it over processed milk. 7g sugar for the original sweetened flavor.

This is a good read about simple and complex carbs and mentions milk: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm


What do you mean by "processed milk"? Are you implying that the milk produced from a cow's tit is somehow more processed than "milk" somehow produced from an almond?
  914777
December 9, 2012 7:56 AM
Well, I tried almond milk and thank you but no thank you. I'm not big on milk anyway, but I need some into my morning coffee.
December 9, 2012 8:03 AM
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Great, I've reached my limit on sugar for the day and its only lunch time. Why? Because I had a cup of milk. 16 grams of sugar. 16! Is there milk out there that has less sugar? Perhaps organic, soy, almond milk? Or is milk sugar natural and not as bad as processed sugar? HELP!


1. Unsweetened Almond Milk /w Stevia/Truvia... DONE!

2. Why are you tracking sugar? Just track carbs. Sugar is a subset of total carbs.

Cow's milk is full of Lactose (sugar) and is considered a simple carb. I dreaded giving up cow's milk, but I discovered a TON of my allergy problems went away after switching to almond milk. They make flavors as well.
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December 9, 2012 8:19 AM
I wouldn't touch milk as a source of protein, carbs or as a rehydration source. It has insufficient enzymes due to pasteurization and/or heat treatment. The protein isn't high quality for the same reasons and WAY too low for most people’s requirements; even if it's high enough you can't digest it without the suitable enzyme activity. Lactose is a BAD source of carbs and poor sugar (for the same above reasons, most westerners can't tolerate lactose) and by skimming it you increase the net content of them. As for it being isotonic there are very few studies collaborate this and the bioavailability of those nutrients is VERY questionable. I don't allow ANY of my clients’ milk for this reason. Cereal and Milk are one of the major catalysts to the health state we are in IMO and you're also funding companies that thrive on profit before welfare of its consumers. Kellogg’s products have been banned in Denmark since 2004 as an interesting point.

If you do have to have milk: Almond Milk, Oat Milk or plain old water to make oats I see as valid substitutes. Certainly not Soy or Soya milk. If it was my kids I would have no problem using whey protein and water as a substitute for milk. Get a nice natural type. This would create uproar am sure but considering whey is one of the main ingredients in baby formula I wouldn't hesitate to bring down the people saying 'oooohhh you can't give a child that'. To me that just shows the ignorance and lack of attention you had when bringing up your child as to 'What' you where actually feeding them.

Phil Learney's advice!
December 9, 2012 8:51 AM
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I wouldn't touch milk as a source of protein, carbs or as a rehydration source. It has insufficient enzymes due to pasteurization and/or heat treatment. The protein isn't high quality for the same reasons and WAY too low for most people’s requirements; even if it's high enough you can't digest it without the suitable enzyme activity. Lactose is a BAD source of carbs and poor sugar (for the same above reasons, most westerners can't tolerate lactose) and by skimming it you increase the net content of them. As for it being isotonic there are very few studies collaborate this and the bioavailability of those nutrients is VERY questionable. I don't allow ANY of my clients’ milk for this reason. Cereal and Milk are one of the major catalysts to the health state we are in IMO and you're also funding companies that thrive on profit before welfare of its consumers. Kellogg’s products have been banned in Denmark since 2004 as an interesting point.

If you do have to have milk: Almond Milk, Oat Milk or plain old water to make oats I see as valid substitutes. Certainly not Soy or Soya milk. If it was my kids I would have no problem using whey protein and water as a substitute for milk. Get a nice natural type. This would create uproar am sure but considering whey is one of the main ingredients in baby formula I wouldn't hesitate to bring down the people saying 'oooohhh you can't give a child that'. To me that just shows the ignorance and lack of attention you had when bringing up your child as to 'What' you where actually feeding them.

Phil Learney's advice!


Milk is bad because it's so highly processed so let's use whey protein powder.

Sounds legit.

What the fck do you think whey is? How is it less processed than the jug of milk in the store?

If you have to have milk use water? Really? That sounds almost as intelligent as suggesting iceberg lettuce for a good filling source of protein.

Where are your facts that "most westerners can't tolerate lactose"?

Note to self: avoid Denmark. No cereal and milk allowed.

Fact: Cow milk was designed to grow a calf to 1000 pounds. That's why I drink more of it on leg day.
It's science, yo.
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