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July 16, 2011 7:48 PM
@greenmm25 yeah the first 3 days are not fun, you may get headaches, you will feel hungry. I have to say though its all mental. The way to get through that hunger is to visualise everything that went into your juice. In truth you would struggle to 'eat' all that.

I found by Day 3 or 4 my energy levels were through the roof. I slept like a baby! You feel tired earlier at night and the trick is to just to go to bed and not fight it.

During those first few days the biggest challenge is friends and family who will attempt to pour scorn on what you are doing. Take a look at my photos, no gimmicks I juiced and as you can see I am in much better shape.

@ Avalonis. I juice every day where possible. If I am not travelling then I will always make my own juice for breakfast. I get one good juice in a day. Every two to three months I do a 3-5 day juice 'fast'. I do this to recalibrate my system and to sync back into the juicing way of life. I really do not consider this a fad diet as long as you combine it with good exercise and sort out poor eating habits.
July 16, 2011 9:37 PM
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There are lot of myths out there about juicing and the ensuing weight loss not being sustainable.

My name is Shane at the start of 2010 I weighed around 242 pounds and i decided I needed to make some changes in my life. I discovered juicing and running. At that stage I could not even run for 5 mins.

Lets fast forward 18 months or so. I have lost over fifty pounds and its stayed off. I have also run two half marathons.

You can see photographic evidence of my journey here http://www.runningonjuice.com/about/

Of course its all dependent on the person. I know people who have juiced soiidly for 7 days, lost weight, returned to their old diet and put the weight on.

Sure, everyone will find after a juice fast you will put a bit of weight back on, its only natural. However the real change is not the weight loss its how you feel. After my first 7 day juice fast I felt lighter, my mind was clearer, my energy levels were through the roof.

I like Joe Cross's idea, he now 'reboots' his system every three months with a 15 day plan.

There are many health and psychological benefits to juicing as long as you combine it with exercise and remain committed to its principles.
I would think that any type of fasting as long as you have the essential nutrients, minerals, protein and fats (carbs aren't essential) would have anyone feeling better.
I find many of the fad diets to be nothing more than restrictive calorie intakes.
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July 17, 2011 11:34 AM
You do make a great point ninerbuff.

Actually the calories per juice are quite high and its not full of chemicals like some of these shake diets that you see.

My daily juice is:

4 celery stalks, 2/3 apples, 6 kale leaves, slice of lemon, lump of ginger, 1 cucumber, I juice the lot and blend it with ice and some baby spinach.

You can even add half an avocado to the blender if you want. Great protein source and it gives you more calories.

If you juice for 7 days you will lose 7lbs+ I will agree this is too rapid a weight loss. However what it does do is motivate you. There is nothing worse then being very overweight, make big changes to your diet, start exercising and when it comes to the week you have barely lost half a pound.

The 7 day juice programme i followed gave me real belief that this weight could be shifted, there is nothing better for motivation.
July 17, 2011 11:38 AM
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One things for sure, it's a shock to the body's metabolism. Most of the scientific community will agree that "juicing" to detox is a myth. While removing foods that contain chemicals that you may be sensitive to will definitely help, your body is more than capable of regulating processed foods as long as you're getting your essentials, water, rest and exercise.


100% agree with this post and your earlier post. It does nothing to teach you portion control. The low protein actually will lead to muscle wasting... and for the people who said that they arent going to work out during it... uhh why would you STOP working out!

I prefer to lose weight the slow healthy way ... a way that I can maintain without ridiculous effort for the rest of my life.
And if you check out my ticker... its clearly working!
  2545488
July 17, 2011 11:59 AM
Smh.. I don't get why everyone is posting about these "fad diets" They won't do you any good in the long run so why bother? After 10 days of this and no working out, the minute you put solid food back into your body and start working out, you will gain it all back so what exactly did you accomplish? I have a lot of weight left to lose but as I told my doctor "slow and steady wins the race" and he agrees. Im losing slowly and healthy and will keep it off when I get to my goal because I didn't buzz right thru it. Ive lost nearly 50lb doing what Ive been doing so obviously Im doing something right!
  2723248
July 17, 2011 12:09 PM
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Smh.. I don't get why everyone is posting about these "fad diets" They won't do you any good in the long run so why bother? After 10 days of this and no working out, the minute you put solid food back into your body and start working out, you will gain it all back so what exactly did you accomplish? I have a lot of weight left to lose but as I told my doctor "slow and steady wins the race" and he agrees. Im losing slowly and healthy and will keep it off when I get to my goal because I didn't buzz right thru it. Ive lost nearly 50lb doing what Ive been doing so obviously Im doing something right!


and THIS is why I am glad you are my friend! :)
  2545488
July 17, 2011 12:22 PM
Hi everyone ,I have watched the documentary myself.I think joe's main goal was to get healthy ,he had an autoimmune disease! In the process he lost weight,I have been on it for 2 weeks,I only had juice for one day and ate whole foods with the juice(.For me drinking just juice is not possible)Now i have one in the morning mix with protein powder,I eat whole foods as much as possible.like Joe I have an autoimmune disease to,When I watched the documentary, I was more of thinking of my disease,I feel great since i been juicing I have been eating whole foods and in the process I have lost 3 pounds.I will be sticking with the whole foods so maybe I can get off my meds! I am taking the weight lost slow!
  77465
July 17, 2011 3:20 PM
I've seen this documentary too and really enjoyed it!! He DOES say doing it for 90 days isn't something that everyone should or could do. And yes he wasn't getting rid of a skin disease that medicine was not helping. His experiment was extreme! I think juicing in general is GREAT! Should it be used long term....no. Is it a lifestyle change....no. But I do think doing it for 7 days isn't going to harm anyone. It's not to be used as a quick fix though.
July 17, 2011 3:29 PM
Sorry....he WAS trying to get rid of the skin disease
July 18, 2011 2:25 PM
I also saw the Documentary on Netflix and would like to try it. Not for 10 days as I do not need to lose more weight.
I started my journey on MFP in December and already lost 47lbs. I've been working on maintenance since June 03rd.
doing well if I may add (1 or 2 lbs up and down, sort of what I expected)

I feel I do not eat enough vegetables or fruits and my hardest time is at night when I get back from work (9:30pm and later ) I need something sweet.

I was thinking about a juice in the morning to replace my 3 cups of coffee (coffee is getting expensive and i may do better with fruits and veggies) and a juice at night when I get back from work (instead of eating ice cream, or a small bar)

Any ideas or recipes? Maybe a cleansing for 2 days then booster for morning and something I won;t be up all night?? laugh

Also how should I consider the calories since I've been counting calories for so long.

Thanks for any help smile
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July 18, 2011 9:34 PM
Emmaleigh et al, I juiced for 7 days solid in January 2010, it got me to adopt a much healthier lifestyle that included running and eating better. 18 months later and I am fifty pounds lighter, you cannot say this is a fad diet. How do you explain my weight loss?
July 20, 2011 9:58 PM
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Emmaleigh et al, I juiced for 7 days solid in January 2010, it got me to adopt a much healthier lifestyle that included running and eating better. 18 months later and I am fifty pounds lighter, you cannot say this is a fad diet. How do you explain my weight loss?


Because your weight loss was not a direct result of the juicing... it was a result of the healthier lifestyle. You could have done it without the juicing by just starting to live as the thinner, healthier you.
  2545488
July 20, 2011 11:31 PM
I know I'll get flamed for this:

But half of you are ridiculous and either 1) Didn't watch the documentary or 2) Completely missed the point of the film.

One person got it right with the fact that a major reason he did this was his disease, but the biggest thing is that you are supposed to be cleansing your body to help change your life. Whether or not it's a "myth" doesn't matter. The way people are claiming to feel and the results CLEARLY shown by the doctors examinations in the film are evidence enough that, in the least, it's beneficial.

This is not a "weight loss" program. It's not a "diet". It's a "fast". People fast for different reasons. This helped one lady in the film with her migraines which she no longer has. That's reason enough.

"You'll gain all the weight back". Yeah if you go back to the lifestyle that got you to where you are. The primary point of the film, which he clearly states, is that this is a total lifestyle change, not a diet. (Referring to the common term of "dieting" and not your overall eating habits.)

"This doesn't teach you portion control". Are you serious...? Do you want the guy to plan out your life for you? As stated - this is not a diet.

I'm sorry if I'm dissing some of your comments but it seriously pisses me off that most people here just don't seem to understand that this is to help cleanse your body and give you a fresh start at a new, healthier life. I just watched the film and will be starting tomorrow. I will try 10 days and see how I feel and whether I should continue or not. Do you seriously think Phil, in the film, could have lost over 130 pounds and gained the health results he did in such a short amount of time any other way? Do you seriously think he'll gain that weight back? Hell no. He's going to take what he's got and run with it. God bless'm.
August 13, 2011 2:11 PM
I don't understand why it has to be so "right" or "wrong". One side did the juicing fast where it did help them in some way shape or form. Feeling better, losing weight, mental clarity, etc. The other side, "slow and steady wins the race". I lost weight the "normal" way and clearly "I am doing something right" as evidenced by my ticker etc. etc.

My thoughts, the people that want to do the juice fast should do it, and find support in those that you can. Those that aren't doing the juice fast (or even watched the documentary most likely for that matter), it's OKAY that someone else is trying something different then what you did.

Like previous poster said... the movie is about SOOO much more then just dropping some pounds. The guys blood pressure dropped to a normal level in less than 60 days, his cholesterol got down to a normal level. Another lady quit having migraines after having debilitating ones for YEARS where she would literally get sick and puke because of them. Another guy had an autoimmune disease go into remission (he too lost a lot of weight that put him in a healthier bracket -- less at risk for heart attack etc.) His brother WHO DID NOT get down to a healthier weight DID have a heart attack during this exact same time frame. Who is to say that he wouldn't have been next? All of the people in the video were monitored every 10 days by a doctor, and were medically cleared, all of their numbers improved to more healthy ones.

All I am saying is it's not ALL about weight loss!
  2751894
November 8, 2011 12:36 AM
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Emmaleigh et al, I juiced for 7 days solid in January 2010, it got me to adopt a much healthier lifestyle that included running and eating better. 18 months later and I am fifty pounds lighter, you cannot say this is a fad diet. How do you explain my weight loss?


Because your weight loss was not a direct result of the juicing... it was a result of the healthier lifestyle. You could have done it without the juicing by just starting to live as the thinner, healthier you.


I disagree with you Emma. If it was not for juicing I would not have a) been able to run for more than 10 mins and b) the rapid weight loss motivated me to get healthier. I tried Atkins, WW, South Beach but nothing motivated me like juicing did. I am now 70lbs lighter and I drink one juice a day and every other month complete a short fast.

I also think Julie is right to say it's not just about weight loss.

Through juicing I got interested in nutrition and eating whole foods. Juicing opened those doors for me. So yes juicing was very much the catalyst behind my weight loss.

Also sometimes if I have overindulged a few days on a juice fast will get me back on the straight and narrow.

Also on my last juice fast I ran my fastest 10k.

For those of you who are openminded on this - I have produced a short video about my experiences along with a free juicing starter guide again based on my own experiences. You can find it on my blog runningonjuice.com
November 16, 2011 9:37 PM
I've actually done it for 2 weeks and lost over 17 pounds. I felt fine throughout the whole 2 weeks :)

Anyone who really is determined and dedicated , can do it . Trust me, it's well worth it in the end.

I've lost 40 pounds by fasting off and on, over a 2 month period.
March 6, 2012 1:57 PM
Well said soulcheese3!!!
Edited by TxGem13 On March 6, 2012 1:59 PM
March 6, 2012 2:13 PM
I did it as a cleanse and loved it. I got a juicer for christmas and have since converted half my office to juicers. I don't want to do it as a long diet but I think a few days to a week is healthy every once in a while. Just have to remember to keep the vegetable ratio up higher than the fruit.

I like how it streamlines the nutrients so if gives your body a break and still juice daily but not as an only source of caloric intake. I recently purchased a dehydrator, so I save the pulp and use it in breads, to make dried crackers or in my compost pile so nothing goes to waste.
March 28, 2012 8:41 PM
I am glad to say that I've just completed Day Two successfully! Yesterday I was not hungry and didn't really miss food. Today I was not hungry, but I DID miss "eating" food and by about 9 pm I could have scarfed down a cheeseburger happily! But as you said - it is mental, because I'm truly not hungry.

I have lost about three pounds, but I swear I may gain it back after the huge juice thingie I had for dinner tonight. We'll see. Anyway, I have not had headaches but I was kind of tired today. Not too bad, and it sure didn't stop me from doing all I had to do today, but I could tell my energy level is down a bit. I've heard the third day is pretty rough, so we'll see!
  5294816
March 28, 2012 8:49 PM
I have a question. Why not eat the fruits and veggies instead of blending them?
Edited by Spanaval On March 28, 2012 8:53 PM
March 28, 2012 8:52 PM
I have a friend that did a 10 day cleanse that was primarily salt water and lemonade~after which he began doing protein shakes and whole fruit juices.

He went from 220 lbs to 185 over a period of 1 month and is now in maintenance. He eats lots of whole fruit and veggies and still does protein shakes as well as eating sensibly. He indulges in pizza and other favorites, but is careful about portion sizes and says he feels 100% better.

I looked at this video and his result is about the same as the guy in the vid.

I say, a cleanse is a good way to start and I do not see any harm in doing this every six months or so to keep your intestines free of gunk, but I would opt for the three day on three day off cleanse rather than 10 days.
  16755923
March 28, 2012 9:00 PM
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I have a question. Why not eat the fruits and veggies instead of blending them?


^^^^^ Me too. What's the point of grinding it up and drinking it?
  89432
March 28, 2012 9:04 PM
I've never watched the documentary. The longest I've ever juiced was 3 days. I'd like to try to do a 10 day one, though. I have a hard time sleeping because the juice gives me so much energy. I think I look a lot prettier when I juice frequently. It keeps me very hydrated. I usually have chapped lips but not when I juice. Also, juicing makes my eyes bigger and the whites whiter and it takes away any darkness under my eyes. Also, I juice a lot of carrots and it makes my skin orange. Anyway, I just think I look prettier lol. I haven't juiced in about 3 weeks though out of laziness. I've been eating pretty badly. After juicing, I'm always more conscientiousness of what I eat. I've been watching theliferegenerator on youtube on and off for 2 years. This thread has motivated me to do at least another 3 day juice fast.
Edited by woopidydoo On March 28, 2012 9:10 PM
March 28, 2012 9:14 PM
dont forget that he was also under a Doctor's supervision.
March 28, 2012 9:30 PM
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I watched it this weekend and I have started by replacing breakfast and sometimes dinner. My main concern is the extreme lack of protein! when it comes down to it why not give it a try, it won't hurt you and I bet it will help cut any cravings you might have.


Our bodies actually don't need as much protein as we think it does...but a lot of vegetables are pretty high in protein. Beans and spinach are good sources. Also, if you can find spirulina anywhere, it has MASSIVE amounts of protein in it. It's basically algae. You can find it in tablet form at most health food stores and a lot of Asian markets have it fresh.


That's what I'm thinking! As a vegetarian, people feel the need to bug me about it (don't even get me started, a family member recently announced "I'm going to get some MEAT" after interrogating me about being a vegetarian) as if protein is the be all and end all of everything. What most people don't realise is that broccoli has more protein, calorie for calorie, than steak, without all the hormones, cruelty, sat fat etc. People are very misinformed *shakes head*

Anyway, I get enough protein now. I eat better, and have whey protein shakes :) but too much protein is bad for you, right?

I also wanna try spirulina (but not the powder version, it's hard enough for me to choke down my protein shakes!) so knowing you can get tablets is helpful :)
Edited by InnerFatGirl On March 28, 2012 9:35 PM
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