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April 24, 2011 8:17 PM
Hi all: what is the ratio you found that works best? I am 5'4" and weigh 160 lbs. Trying to lose 15 lbs. I have my goals set at 50/25/25 which gives me about 165g of carbs and 90g of protein daily. It is hard to hit the protein on all days as I am a vegetarian, especially on the days I work out as the site then automatically ups it to >100.
  6895933
April 24, 2011 8:27 PM
40/30/30 for me. Slow carbs and fats mainly from fish and nuts. I do my best to stay away from white flours, white sugars, and processed foods in general. Although they are WAY easier to find, prepare, etc. lol
April 24, 2011 8:29 PM
For serious and easy fat loss - try 30g carbs a day - your 150g Protein and whatever is left as fat. If you only eat veggies, 30g is a lot, then regular lean meats should fill out the rest of your diet. Don't be afraid of beef, poultry, eggs, tuna, fish etc. Whatever you do, don't r under-eat and over-exercise daily. It has a bad rebound and typically just doesn't work long term. Eat a few times a day, when hungry and eat until full. That should be a pretty easy way to not only lose weight, but also form habits that will stop your old life from returning after you hit that goal weight.

When you first lower your carbs, you might be a little tired for the first week while your body adjusts and starts converting fatty acids to an energy source, but push through it and the results flow quickly. Feel free to check my diary for meal ideas - in general I've raised my carbs slightly since I'm under my goal weight now and aiming to add a bit of muscle while keeping lean.
  212349
April 24, 2011 8:36 PM
I have my mine set to 25% / 25% / 50% ...most days I am very close to being on target...and I feel great!!!!!!!!
  4692665
April 24, 2011 8:49 PM
QUOTE:

For serious and easy fat loss - try 30g carbs a day - your 150g Protein and whatever is left as fat. If you only eat veggies, 30g is a lot, then regular lean meats should fill out the rest of your diet. Don't be afraid of beef, poultry, eggs, tuna, fish etc. Whatever you do, don't r under-eat and over-exercise daily. It has a bad rebound and typically just doesn't work long term. Eat a few times a day, when hungry and eat until full. That should be a pretty easy way to not only lose weight, but also form habits that will stop your old life from returning after you hit that goal weight.

When you first lower your carbs, you might be a little tired for the first week while your body adjusts and starts converting fatty acids to an energy source, but push through it and the results flow quickly. Feel free to check my diary for meal ideas - in general I've raised my carbs slightly since I'm under my goal weight now and aiming to add a bit of muscle while keeping lean.


Haha, so your advice is for the vegetarian to stop being a vegetarian, then...?
  5349110
April 24, 2011 8:59 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

For serious and easy fat loss - try 30g carbs a day - your 150g Protein and whatever is left as fat. If you only eat veggies, 30g is a lot, then regular lean meats should fill out the rest of your diet. Don't be afraid of beef, poultry, eggs, tuna, fish etc. Whatever you do, don't r under-eat and over-exercise daily. It has a bad rebound and typically just doesn't work long term. Eat a few times a day, when hungry and eat until full. That should be a pretty easy way to not only lose weight, but also form habits that will stop your old life from returning after you hit that goal weight.

When you first lower your carbs, you might be a little tired for the first week while your body adjusts and starts converting fatty acids to an energy source, but push through it and the results flow quickly. Feel free to check my diary for meal ideas - in general I've raised my carbs slightly since I'm under my goal weight now and aiming to add a bit of muscle while keeping lean.


Haha, so your advice is for the vegetarian to stop being a vegetarian, then...?


Lol, I was about to say the same thing.

To OP: Anyways, I have a 45/30/25 carbs/protein/fat ratio. Works for me but I'm maintaining weight. I've seen the higher carb work very well but you must be active. With my ratios I do plenty of cardio and weight training with no problems.
Edited by mrphil86 On April 24, 2011 9:00 PM
April 24, 2011 9:15 PM
damn, I don't know how I missed that lol.

There are ways to approach the primal/paleo/huntergatherer side from vegetarian, but I won't lie, it's more difficult. I still think go for as low carb as possible even as a vegetarian. Check out the literature on Leaky Gut and see what you think :(
  212349
April 25, 2011 3:45 AM
I do 45% carbs, 25% protein 30% fat. It has been a really good ratio for me, though even as a meat eater it is difficult for me to eat that much protein on workout days. I have started eating a couple of hard boiled eggs every other day at breakfast, and cheese the other days, plus a bowl of oatmeal. That way I get my day started out with protein :)

Don't be afraid of fat, it helps your body breakdown and process all the veggies you eat, and suppresses your appetite as well. As long as you are getting good sources of fat up to 35% isn't a problem.

You could try going low carb, but as a vegetarian I don't think that is sustainable at all, and to me a weight loss program is only as good as its sustainability. You don't want to lose the weight just to gain it all back! So figure out what you like and what works for you and go with it. When I did low carb I felt starved all the time, and even though I lost a lot of weight I gained more than double back within a couple years.

Good luck!
  1532882
April 25, 2011 8:07 PM
Thank you all for the input - Maybe I will try going down to 45% carbs for a while and see if it works out - I know it will be hard. I know I was not getting enough protein so have been consciously trying to increase that in my diet.
Yes, I thought Steve's advice was funny, but thanks to you too for taking the trouble! I do eat eggs, so I try to make sure I eat some eggwhites or eggbeaters at least every other day and i get plenty of dairy in the form of greek yogurt, cottage cheese etc which are high in protein.
  6895933
April 25, 2011 8:09 PM
How would you feel about using some kind of protein powder? 1 or 2 scoops per day would probably bring you to your protein goal.
April 25, 2011 8:14 PM
lol - yeah, sorry about that haha -

I would eat tons of eggs-and the whole thing! Get the super good fats and omelet your butt off!

Also, Taso's right - do whey protein - it's a great form of protein and a super fast meal! Avoid the bars - they are filled with junk and sugar, the powder is a much better bet to raise your protein and not increase the carbs any more than they already are.

If you will do fish - that's the jackpot!
  212349
April 26, 2011 6:22 AM
great ideas....will try the protein powder - I know my son uses it after his workouts. Is there a particular brand you guys recommend?
  6895933
April 26, 2011 7:05 AM
Honestly, I would say it depends on your specific goals, workouts, and definitely as a vegetarian. The healthiest diet overall has been shown to be mostly vegetarian. I wouldn't worry so much about the %'s but focus on getting the complete proteins from vegetarian sources. Just make sure you get some grains, nuts, beans, and seeds daily and you'll get your complete proteins. Also, base your protein needs on your body weight and goals. So if you aren't exercising, then you need 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. A 220 pound person would be 100 kilograms. Multiply that 100 kg by 0.8 grams and you get 80 grams of protein per day. If you are exercising intensely (high intensity cardio and weights), then you can go up to 2 grams per kilogram. So that same 220 pound person (100 kg person) can have up to 200 grams of protein. Pick somewhere between the 0.8 grams per kilo and the 2 grams per kilo depending on how intensely you think you are exercising. Then you can figure out what percentage of your intake is suppose to be from protein based on that. If you are suppose to have 80 g of protein on a 1200 calorie eating plan, then you multiply the 80 grams by 4 to get calories from protein. That is 320 calories. Divide the 320 calories from protein by the total 1200 calories per day to get 26.6 percent from protein. The other percentages can be determined after that. As a vegetarian, you won't get as much fat as carnivores (although you can get quite a lot from olive and canola oils, avocado, coconut, etc.), so it is okay to go with the lower end of the range on it. The range is 20-35% from fat, so I'd go with 20%. 1200 calories x 20% = 240 calories from fat. 240 divided by 9 calories per gram = 26.7 grams per day. 26.6% protein + 20% fat = 46.6% total. 100% - 46.6% = 53.4% left to come from carbs. 1200 x 53.4% = 640.8 calories from carbs. 640.8 divided by 4 calories per gram gives you 160 grams of carbohydrate per day.

As for adding other sources of protein from powders and such, you have to watch what you buy as a vegetarian. Whey protein is the most common and it is a milk protein so unless you are lacto-vegetarian then whey protein is out. Soy protein may be a more acceptable form for you, but if you have had issues with estrogen based cancers (breast, ovarian, cervical) in your family, then you may want to limit your soy intake. Like I said, the specific percentages are less important then your own individual nutritional needs and desires.

ETA: In the OP, you asked about what % we do, so here are mine: 70-80% carbs, 10-15% protein, and 10-15% fat. I have had breast cancer issues, so I've been told to keep my fat intake to below 15% to reduce the risk in the future. I'm also doing a kidney donation and have been told to do 15% or less of protein to keep from overworking the kidneys before the transplant and also after the transplant because I'll only have one left to do all the work. That leaves a lot of carbs! People are often shocked at how many carbs I eat and am still losing weight consistently. The secret is making sure you do the type of activity that uses the extra carbs and trains the body to store them as glycogen instead of fat. (IE: Weight training)
Edited by TrainingWithTonya On April 26, 2011 7:11 AM
April 26, 2011 7:06 AM
I'm close to 40/35/25.
April 26, 2011 7:11 AM
Iv got mine set to 45/35/20 carbs, protein , fat. Iv set it to that because iv read this is a good ratio for weight loss. Make sure there good carbs, whole grains, avoid White pasta rice ect.
  6879247
April 26, 2011 7:37 AM
QUOTE:

Honestly, I would say it depends on your specific goals, workouts, and definitely as a vegetarian. The healthiest diet overall has been shown to be mostly vegetarian. I wouldn't worry so much about the %'s but focus on getting the complete proteins from vegetarian sources. Just make sure you get some grains, nuts, beans, and seeds daily and you'll get your complete proteins. Also, base your protein needs on your body weight and goals. So if you aren't exercising, then you need 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. A 220 pound person would be 100 kilograms. Multiply that 100 kg by 0.8 grams and you get 80 grams of protein per day. If you are exercising intensely (high intensity cardio and weights), then you can go up to 2 grams per kilogram. So that same 220 pound person (100 kg person) can have up to 200 grams of protein. Pick somewhere between the 0.8 grams per kilo and the 2 grams per kilo depending on how intensely you think you are exercising. Then you can figure out what percentage of your intake is suppose to be from protein based on that. If you are suppose to have 80 g of protein on a 1200 calorie eating plan, then you multiply the 80 grams by 4 to get calories from protein. That is 320 calories. Divide the 320 calories from protein by the total 1200 calories per day to get 26.6 percent from protein. The other percentages can be determined after that. As a vegetarian, you won't get as much fat as carnivores (although you can get quite a lot from olive and canola oils, avocado, coconut, etc.), so it is okay to go with the lower end of the range on it. The range is 20-35% from fat, so I'd go with 20%. 1200 calories x 20% = 240 calories from fat. 240 divided by 9 calories per gram = 26.7 grams per day. 26.6% protein + 20% fat = 46.6% total. 100% - 46.6% = 53.4% left to come from carbs. 1200 x 53.4% = 640.8 calories from carbs. 640.8 divided by 4 calories per gram gives you 160 grams of carbohydrate per day.

As for adding other sources of protein from powders and such, you have to watch what you buy as a vegetarian. Whey protein is the most common and it is a milk protein so unless you are lacto-vegetarian then whey protein is out. Soy protein may be a more acceptable form for you, but if you have had issues with estrogen based cancers (breast, ovarian, cervical) in your family, then you may want to limit your soy intake. Like I said, the specific percentages are less important then your own individual nutritional needs and desires.

ETA: In the OP, you asked about what % we do, so here are mine: 70-80% carbs, 10-15% protein, and 10-15% fat. I have had breast cancer issues, so I've been told to keep my fat intake to below 15% to reduce the risk in the future. I'm also doing a kidney donation and have been told to do 15% or less of protein to keep from overworking the kidneys before the transplant and also after the transplant because I'll only have one left to do all the work. That leaves a lot of carbs! People are often shocked at how many carbs I eat and am still losing weight consistently. The secret is making sure you do the type of activity that uses the extra carbs and trains the body to store them as glycogen instead of fat. (IE: Weight training)


THIS IS GREAT!smile ... I've been hoping someone would break down the calculations for me... the ratios can be tricky but I guess you have to try it to see what actually works for you to get the results you're aiming for.
Thanks Tonya... you're always sharing the best informationflowerforyou
  4536371
April 26, 2011 3:38 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Honestly, I would say it depends on your specific goals, workouts, and definitely as a vegetarian. The healthiest diet overall has been shown to be mostly vegetarian. I wouldn't worry so much about the %'s but focus on getting the complete proteins from vegetarian sources. Just make sure you get some grains, nuts, beans, and seeds daily and you'll get your complete proteins. Also, base your protein needs on your body weight and goals. So if you aren't exercising, then you need 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. A 220 pound person would be 100 kilograms. Multiply that 100 kg by 0.8 grams and you get 80 grams of protein per day. If you are exercising intensely (high intensity cardio and weights), then you can go up to 2 grams per kilogram. So that same 220 pound person (100 kg person) can have up to 200 grams of protein. Pick somewhere between the 0.8 grams per kilo and the 2 grams per kilo depending on how intensely you think you are exercising. Then you can figure out what percentage of your intake is suppose to be from protein based on that. If you are suppose to have 80 g of protein on a 1200 calorie eating plan, then you multiply the 80 grams by 4 to get calories from protein. That is 320 calories. Divide the 320 calories from protein by the total 1200 calories per day to get 26.6 percent from protein. The other percentages can be determined after that. As a vegetarian, you won't get as much fat as carnivores (although you can get quite a lot from olive and canola oils, avocado, coconut, etc.), so it is okay to go with the lower end of the range on it. The range is 20-35% from fat, so I'd go with 20%. 1200 calories x 20% = 240 calories from fat. 240 divided by 9 calories per gram = 26.7 grams per day. 26.6% protein + 20% fat = 46.6% total. 100% - 46.6% = 53.4% left to come from carbs. 1200 x 53.4% = 640.8 calories from carbs. 640.8 divided by 4 calories per gram gives you 160 grams of carbohydrate per day.

As for adding other sources of protein from powders and such, you have to watch what you buy as a vegetarian. Whey protein is the most common and it is a milk protein so unless you are lacto-vegetarian then whey protein is out. Soy protein may be a more acceptable form for you, but if you have had issues with estrogen based cancers (breast, ovarian, cervical) in your family, then you may want to limit your soy intake. Like I said, the specific percentages are less important then your own individual nutritional needs and desires.

ETA: In the OP, you asked about what % we do, so here are mine: 70-80% carbs, 10-15% protein, and 10-15% fat. I have had breast cancer issues, so I've been told to keep my fat intake to below 15% to reduce the risk in the future. I'm also doing a kidney donation and have been told to do 15% or less of protein to keep from overworking the kidneys before the transplant and also after the transplant because I'll only have one left to do all the work. That leaves a lot of carbs! People are often shocked at how many carbs I eat and am still losing weight consistently. The secret is making sure you do the type of activity that uses the extra carbs and trains the body to store them as glycogen instead of fat. (IE: Weight training)


THIS IS GREAT!smile ... I've been hoping someone would break down the calculations for me... the ratios can be tricky but I guess you have to try it to see what actually works for you to get the results you're aiming for.
Thanks Tonya... you're always sharing the best informationflowerforyou
  6895933
April 26, 2011 3:46 PM
This is awesome - makes a lot of sense. I currently am set at 50/25/25 which is very do-able for me - My current wt is 72kg and with a goal of 1300 cal this gives me about 165g carbs, 83g protein and 37g fat. I am often lower on the fat, within +/- 10 on the protein, and either at, or marginally higher on the carbs. I did the calculations the way you explained things and it comes close. MFP increases my protein on the days I work out which is then a challenge. I don't see how eating 30% carbs would be sustainable for me - I could possibly do it short term but it would not last. I have been stalled at this weight for about a month so was looking for ideas. My goal is to lose 10-15 lbs so not too ambitious but I am struggling with it, despite working out 4-5 days a week, and being at or under my calorie goal. Will keep plugging along I guess!
  6895933
May 17, 2013 10:23 AM
I apologize for being 2 years late on this one. THIS IS THE GOLD STANDARD of Fat/Pro/Carb ratio for fitness enthusiasts.

I can not believe NO ONE in this entire thread knew this, this is COMMON KNOWLEDGE to ANYONE who knows ANYTHING about nutrition.

The Gold Standard ratio for Fats/Proteins/Carbs is 30%/30%/40%

Now, to do what everyone else did which is share what they are currently doing and what is working... I lift weights a lot, 6 days a week for at least an hour each day so I like lots of protein. And I like to stay cut (under 10% body fat) so I eat low carbs and I shoot for a 25%/50%/25%.

If you are a vegetarian that does not matter - go buy a protein shake mix and you can slam 50grams in one drinks for just 300 calories. Pro7ein at NutriShops is a great lean protein shake or just browse bodybuilding.com for one with low sugar and low carbs.

I hope this helps.
May 17, 2013 10:26 AM
Here's a great article worth reading: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-magical-macronutrient-ratio-for-fat-loss.html
May 17, 2013 10:31 AM
My ratios are 70% fat/ 20% protein/ 10% carbs. Losing weight and feel great so far. :)

Edit: Didn't realize this is an old thread, my bad.
Edited by Carnivor0us On May 17, 2013 10:33 AM
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May 17, 2013 11:14 AM
I'm currently experimenting with different percentages, in an effort to stop weight loss and finally get into a maintenance groove. But, I'm a primal eater, so my percentages are going to look much different than a vegetarians :) Currently I'm trying out F50/C25/P25 and around 2,000 calories.
August 28, 2013 6:14 AM
Another late posting !!

I thought I'd just check see what a balanced carb fat protein diet was since at the moment I'm trying to loose weight..I just live cakes !! Anywho I've been using the fitbit tracker in descent conjunction with my fitness pal app

So far since my relapse at Christmas when I piled on 4 kgs lol I've now lost 1.5kg bringing myself to 68.5kgs just in preparing my own meals gathered from healthy eating sites etc

My carbs are always around the 50% fat low 20's and protein makes up the rest..I find these are all with acceptable parameters with no effort on my behalf

I limit my calories to 1200 a day about 95% I'm there but over the week I'm always a few thousand under the total goal..still no effort

These people who wish to loose weight just need to prepare their own meals so they know what there eating..we all know the fitness pal app has a great meal tab for this..keep the calories down and try do some exercise

It does make me chuckle reading how people state their percentages thinking that's all great...but consider you could still be eating 4000 calories a day and still have those percentages..it's all relative ;)

Also remember people who exercise a lot..muscle tissue is heavier than fat..so you could be excising a lot and not seeing much progress..possibly because your exchanging fat for muscle

Anywho..it really is so great hearing the little wars people are having to fight the flab

Keep it up your all doing a grand job !!
August 11, 2014 4:53 AM
People do your own research the recommended amount of protein is ridiculous!!!!

I weigh 50 Kg and my recommended protein intake was recommend at 112 grams. The real recomended daily amount of protein is 0.8-1 gram per Kg of body weight, my real guideline is 40-50 grams of protein less than half of the apps rda!
September 30, 2014 10:57 AM
New to this, so if I'm trying to lose/diet and IF I go with the 30g Carbs & 150g Protein, what exactly SHOULD BE LEFT/allocated for fat intake? (fat grams?) The "serious/easy" post only says "whatever is left"... but left of what?

Is there a table or pie graph somewhere that shows x% equates to approx x grams of fat..

I've heard that this ratio is good for dieting:
20/30/50%
Fat/Carb/Protein
How many grams are associated to each of those ratios is what I'm trying to get...

Thx! C.
Age 47, Starting 1000 cal diet, so based on 1000 what would the break down of grams be?

UPDATE: I built a calc to figure out the post where it stated 30g carbs, 150g protein... which equates to
30g=6%
150g=30%
which leaves 64% left to equal 100%
so..... I need some clarification now for sure b/c I'm sure Steve surely isnt intending on a person to consume 64% in fat (which is what's left)...
» » » Steve or others can you elaborate? Thx!


+BTW, 20/30/50% based on my spreadsheet is:
..........44g fat/ 150g carb/ 250g prot
Edited by christinecaseakamacgyver On September 30, 2014 11:51 AM

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